India must Heed to World Concern over BSF Killing

[harpoon]

^^Kuwait continues its ban, imposed in 2006.....you tell me the meaning

For all I care BDs can even immigrate to hell, but pls tell your countrymen to stop 'pole vaulting' at Indian border.Stay on your side.

 

[Zabaniyah]

^^Kuwait continues its ban, imposed in 2006.....you tell me the meaning

I am sorry, but I got the meaning that all Middle Eastern coutries banned Bangladeshis(?) This is false.

As far as Kuwait is concerned, it's their country and their decision alone. Nothing to do with India. And besides, it's a small country.

It's not like they hopped into the Indian side and walked all the way through India, Pakistan, Iran and then the Middle East. See, that's the logic you are presenting in respect to the topic here.

They can afford to fly on airline carriers. Chittagong outbound passengers number more than 1.5 million annually alone.

For all I care BDs can even immigrate to hell, but pls tell your countrymen to stop 'pole vaulting' at Indian border.Stay on your side.

Not that I care. I don't even care if you mine, laser fence, carpet bomb, or even nuke your side of the border. It is your money and your call

As far as my side of the border goes....can't say much. The GoB regardless of administration do not necessarily represent the needs of the majority of Bangladeshis.

Ironic that the current Bangladeshi administration is pro-India eh? Trust me, with all the love in the air between Congress and AL, and given the current trends, you're all gonna really hate the AL at some point in the future. I guarantee it

And if the GoI continues to support the AL in the future given the current trend, then your government is not representing your needs (given that your PoV holds true). No such thing as a 100% Democracy

My only request is to stop spreading false information as far as my country goes

 

[harpoon]

Not that I care. I don't even care if you mine, laser fence, carpet bomb, or even nuke your side of the border. It is your money and your call

As far as my side of the border goes....can't say much. The GoB regardless of administration do not necessarily represent the needs of the majority of Bangladeshis.

Ironic that the current Bangladeshi administration is pro-India eh? Trust me, with all the love in the air between Congress and AL, and given the current trends, you're all gonna really hate the AL at some point in the future. I guarantee it

And if the GoI continues to support the AL in the future given the current trend, then your government is not representing your needs (given that your PoV holds true). No such thing as a 100% Democracy

My only request is to stop spreading false information as far as my country goes

I don't know how much is the rumor of GoI supporting AL is true, but its in our favor that there is a friendly govt in BD .....but that doesn't mean that we can allow BDs pole vault over the fence.

If you like it or not BD is fast becoming a transit point for anti-India activities and we have to take suitable countermeasures. India does not have a proper immigration agency to catch the illegal trespassers once they enter the Indian Mainland or have any system for deportation especially to BD, so it suits use to shoot and then ask questions.

http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/152311-nia-busts-major-counterfeit-currency-racket-pak-links.html

 

[Roybot]

In addition to impulse, BSF brutality and killing are supported by indian law approved by indian policy makers at highest level. How does that brutality and senseless killing reflect on so called "secular" india? It's more like indians are trying to hide their redical and fundamentalists actions behind "secular" mask.

From the same report,

Unlike the BSF, the BDR is not under pressure either to restrain the migration of its people into India or to restrict the smuggling of cattle or rice. Its primary concern is to stop the inflow of the cough syrup Phensedyl and other drugs. In the September 2010 meeting between the BSF and BDR, while the BSF demanded action against militant camps, the BDR asked India to shut down illegal factories near the border that were manufacturing Phensedyl.[32]

The BDR has occasionally been accused of seriously abusing smugglers and cattle-rustlers who fail to pay the expected bribes. For example on August 17, 2010, Rashidul Islam, 27 years old, was, according to family members and villagers, picked up by a BDR patrol near the Mogholhat border area in Lalmonirhaat and beaten to death on the river bank. His body was then thrown into the river. His father alleged that the incident might have been related to an altercation with the BDR over non-payment of bribes. The company commander of Mogholhat camp said Rashidul Islam jumped into the river to evade arrest when BDR chased him and other members of a smuggling ring.[33]

Now how many times have we heard news reports about BSF beating up Bangladeshis and throwing dead bodies in the river in Lalmonirhat. No prizes for guessing who the real culprit is. The modus operandi has BDR written all over it. Kill the smugglers if they don't pay up and put the blame on BSF.

 

[Zabaniyah]

I don't know how much is the rumor of GoI supporting AL is true, but its in our favor that there is a friendly govt in BD .....but that doesn't mean that we can allow BDs pole vault over the fence.

That's my point. Are they doing that? Especially after the bloody mutiny?

If you like it or not BD is fast becoming a transit point for anti-India activities and we have to take suitable countermeasures. India does not have a proper immigration agency to catch the illegal trespassers once they enter the Indian Mainland or have any system for deportation especially to BD, so it suits use to shoot and then ask questions.

Even under the AL? Bangladesh never thretened India or anything.

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Now how many times have we heard news reports about BSF beating up Bangladeshis and throwing dead bodies in the river in Lalmonirhat. No prizes for guessing who the real culprit is. The modus operandi has BDR written all over. Kill the smugglers if they don't pay up and put the blame on BSF.

I read one report by Dhaka University professor that said that BDR officers were involved in human smuggling business.

 

[eastwatch]

True, the Bangladeshis who are crying over BSF shooting same Bangladeshi will cry over creating a Greater Bangladesh including Assam, Tripura,West Bengal, Bihar, Jharkhand and Orissa. And many Bangladeshi fanboys are unhappy with Shaikh Haseena for dismantling ULFA assets in Bangladeshi for she wanted peace with India instead of their dream of greater Bangladesh.

We have dismantled ULFA bases in Bangladesh, but, in exchange, you are killing our smugglers and small children in the border zone.

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What if the LeT terrorist travel to Bangladesh and infiltrate into WB and attack Calcutta? No chances.... Illegal migrants are not welcome.... Kill them if you have to!

LeT terrorsts have no place in Bangladesh. They cannot be a reason for killing our citizens by the BSF troops.

 

[Kesang]

^^^ you mean that we should welcome your smugglers in border Because you dismantle ULFA than what should you do for exchange for giving you freedom and feeding your 20 million people?

 

[harpoon]

That's my point. Are they doing that? Especially after the bloody mutiny?



Even under the AL? Bangladesh never thretened India or anything.

South Asian Govts are not known exactly for their efficiency..do they? otherwise honey and milk would literally flow in this land.

 

[Zabaniyah]

^^^ you mean that we should welcome your smugglers in border

Not at all. I am saying in respect to the Bangladeshi side.

Because you dismantle ULFA than what should you do for exchange for giving you freedom and feeding your 20 million people?

ULFA is another matter dear.

 

[eastwatch]

^^^ you mean that we should welcome your smugglers in border Because you dismantle ULFA than what should you do for exchange for giving you freedom and feeding your 20 million people?

Bottom line is, BSF troops have no right to take the life of an unarmed person, smuggler or not. The way you are treating them , it is creating anti-India feeling. Who knows, ULFA may get more sympathy in its quest for shelter and arms in Bangladesh.

 

[harpoon]

We have dismantled ULFA bases in Bangladesh, but, in exchange, you are killing our smugglers and small children in the border zone.

Thank you, but a country should not give bases for the anti-national elements operating in their neighbouring countries in the first place.

LeT terrorsts have no place in Bangladesh. They cannot be a reason for killing our citizens by the BSF troops.

LeT will surely use the porous border and jihadi elements in BD to work against India.

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Bottom line is, BSF troops have no right to take the life of an unarmed person, smuggler or not. The way you are treating them , it is creating anti-India feeling. Who knows, ULFA may get more sympathy in its quest for shelter and arms in Bangladesh.

Tell BGB to do a better job than teaching BSF how to guard our borders.

 

[Zabaniyah]

LeT? I've never heard of those guys in Bangladesh.

 

[harpoon]

LeT? I've never heard of those guys in Bangladesh.

You don't have to. They are only obsessed with Hindu Kafir India.

 

[idune]

The BSF, which has a long record of severe human rights abuses and members of India’s other security forces, are exempt from criminal prosecution unless specific approval is granted by the Indian government to undertake a prosecution in a particular case. This legally sanctioned impunity is even included in a new bill to prohibit torture under consideration in the Indian parliament. The bill, as presently drafted, will require approval from the central or a state government for a court to have jurisdiction over an offense committed by a public servant.

-- Human Rights Watch
“Trigger Happy”

That is state sponsored radicalism and terrorism practiced by Indian forces.

 

[idune]

Here, Canada called indian BSF 'notoriously violent'

Canadian High Commission terms BSF as 'notoriously violent'
ET Bureau May 22, 2010, 03.30am IST

NEW DELHI: In a development that could trigger a diplomatic row between India and Canada, the Canadian high commission in New Delhi termed the Border Security Force as a "notoriously violent paramilitary unit engaged in systematic attacks on civilians and responsible for torturing suspected criminals." The external affairs ministry has taken up the matter with Canadian authorities.

The outrageous Canadian stand came to light after a retired BSF jawan's immigration to Canada was rejected by its high commission in New Delhi on the grounds that he once worked for BSF.


Describing the retired BSF security head constable as a member of a "persecuting group", the Canadian high commission claimed that the BSF was responsible for committing crime against humanity.

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Canadian High Commission terms BSF as 'notoriously violent' - Economic Times