Mahmood uz Zaman
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I told that we JF17 Thunder shot down their best fighter SU 30 MKI.They can’t since the official version is that it fell in Azad Kashmir
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I told that we JF17 Thunder shot down their best fighter SU 30 MKI.They can’t since the official version is that it fell in Azad Kashmir
I am going to cross post.@MilSpec Can you please begin to explain how a piece of AMRAAM [assuming it as fact] proves a F-16 was shot?
Go with us step by step because I want to go along with the Indian reasoning behind their claim. I mean we all know Mig-21 got shot down -
- Could it be a piece of AMRAAM that was fired in anger?
- If the AMRAAM was found in IOK where is the rest of the fighter if indeed it was shot down?
- etc
But how does a small piece of AMRAAM equal shot F-16?
- pieces of wreckage in AJK
- pilot landed in AJK
- pilot captured in AJK
Well;
I am not here to double down on speculation, as far as F16 being shot down, thats an assertion made by some reputed defence corrospondents like Shiv Aroor and Vishnu Som, so it is a assertion with some credentials, as far as solid proof, if there was concrete evidence of F16 wreckage or other evidence with india it would have or will surface, untill then it remains an assertion.
An Aim120C5 debry with S.No belonging to Pakistani order is the only tangible evidence, it shows that a Aim120C5 was fired now whether it was fired from a F16 or a Suzuki Mehran with a link 16, that is purely for up for readers to argue with, I won't get into that.
The contention on this forum has been that the S.No has been from Taiwan (spelled incorrectly ) from REPORT TO CONGRESS ON SALES OF SIGNIFICANT MILITARY EQUIPMENT TO FOREIGN ENTITIES. from the year 2009, the same report of 2011 states US sold RQ-4 Global Hawk to Pakistan, which we know is not true, and thus I personally will not provide credence to this report.
My post was just to clarify on AIM 120C5 S.No. rest of the hoopla is just entertaining to read.
How do i know its RQ4 _ Global Hawk and not Parts
because the report states so
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If it was parts the report would state:
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or
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or
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Thus the credibility of the report is quite suspect.
Now to address your Taiwan confusion,
no order for Aim20C5 already 100% appropriated was ever cancelled for Pakistan that I could find, I hope you understand what is meant by " This effort supports foreign military sales to Pakistan 100%. At this time, total funds have been obligated" if not it means FMS "Cha-ching"
Next Downing F16:
Lets establish some context on common sense, I haven't posted a single word about downing of any F16's.
All I have stated is the S.No FA867505C0070 is associated with order for Pakistan under P00028 which is a FMS code.
Hope that helps.
Do they have lamposts like that in AJK/Pak?Very interesting.
Why Afghanistan? F-16 junk can be obtained from more secure/safe channels
And they only have to convince Abhinandan to claim his "kill"
I find it rather amusing they are holding pieces of the AMRAAM and crying wolf. Yet it is same US weaponry that was being unleased on thousands of innocent civilians by KSA and no word were ever uttered by US politicians with the exception for brave souls.AMRAAM-120C5 travels at mach 3. Thats more than 3000kmh. Just imagine what the impact with such an amount of kinetic energy would be for the jet and the missile.
Indians not only have a piece of the shell but even the serial number remained undamaged.
RIP indian credibility
RIP IAF
Kuddos to JF-17 MKI Killer
Why go to Afghanistan when Israel would be happy to sell an altered and damaged piece of AMRAAM with PAF serial numer on it. That is exactly what happened.