'India may have competitive edge over China'

[gubbi]

This is not a contradiction. In Franco's fascist Spain, they allowed bookstores (the internet of their day) to sell whatever they wanted, socialist or democratic literature, whatever. But they had to pass the execution block in the centre of town, to get to the bookstore.

Are you equating fascism with free society? Seriously?

You are the equivalent of the Stalinist hacks.

Seriously? dude!

 

[Subramanian]

This is not a contradiction. In Franco's fascist Spain, they allowed bookstores (the internet of their day) to sell whatever they wanted, socialist or democratic literature, whatever. But they had to pass the execution block in the centre of town, to get to the bookstore.

The message was, you can read or say whatever you wanted, as long as you don't challenge the power structure. That's what was important. That you don't challenge the existing power structure in your country. Be honest, have you ever done that? Hell it's easy to look your noses up at human rights abuses that you can't do a thing about, any Stalinist hack would have whined about the crimes of the capitlist world, but I would hardly applaud those people as brave. I'd applaud the Soviet dissents who were truely against the crimes of the system.

You are the equivalent of the Stalinist hacks.

I agree with that.But India is not as easy to analyse as u think so.

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India at this moment has no advantage over china

we have google search.

 

[lem34]

I agree with that.But India is not as easy to analyse as u think so.

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we have google search.

Ok india is great but not today mate

 

[rcrmj]

That is a contradiction. You think, free societies - which espouse free thinking - have a need for propaganda, a need to control their media? Surely, sir you must be joking.
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thats why you are gullible and naive``propaganda is everywhere, before the iraq war, af war, atm Nato bombing libya, propaganda came in first then followed by hammer.

 

[darkhero]

When Indians can work hard as Chinese.

 

[Subramanian]

Ok india is great but not today mate

no thats not what i meant man and i dont understand by whats great and whats not?China is so great,can u go live there except HK/Shanghai?

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Indians are very hard workers man,mentally and physically.But this is not about that,you ll never get labour in India for a few pennies as you might get there.

 

[jdme]

That is a contradiction. You think, free societies - which espouse free thinking - have a need for propaganda, a need to control their media? Surely, sir you must be joking.

thats why you are gullible and naive``propaganda is everywhere, before the iraq war, af war, atm Nato bombing libya, propaganda came in first then followed by hammer.

Well atleast your eyes are open wherever you live

 

[below_freezing]

no thats not what i meant man and i dont understand by whats great and whats not?China is so great,can u go live there except HK/Shanghai?

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Indians are very hard workers man,mentally and physically.But this is not about that,you ll never get labour in India for a few pennies as you might get there.

India Salary Survey - India Wages - Average Salary in India - PayScale

Right now its 46:1 Rupeeollar

PayScale China - China Country Salary, Average Salaries

Right now its 6.4:1

I don't need to say more.

 

[Jade]

[/COLOR]Indians are very hard workers man,mentally and physically.But this is not about that,you ll never get labour in India for a few pennies as you might get there.

Wages are high in China as compared to India. In cities such as Shan ghai, the wages are comparable to any western cities. Shan ghai is too costly to live.

 

[conworldus]

Wages are high in China as compared to India. In cities such as Shan ghai, the wages are comparable to any western cities. Shan ghai is too costly to live.

Actually, quite a number of Indians are working in Chinese software companies. I wonder why? (Hint. Paycheck)

 

[jdme]

Actually, quite a number of Indians are working in Chinese software companies. I wonder why? (Hint. Paycheck)

And many work for Indian companies. I hope you will find logical conclusion in that too

 

[Jade]

Actually, quite a number of Indians are working in Chinese software companies. I wonder why? (Hint. Paycheck)

Although Indian are found everywhere across the globe, if you discount HK, there are very few Indians you find in China. Even in HK, Indians work in western MNCs and not in local Chinese companies

 

[below_freezing]

Although Indian are found everywhere across the globe, if you discount HK, there are very few Indians you find in China. Even in HK, Indians work in western MNCs and not in local Chinese companies

There are very few Indians in homogenous East Asia (China, Korea, Japan, Vietnam).

HK and Singapore are exceptions; they were former colonial ports where merchants across the world settled in.

 

[lem34]

no thats not what i meant man and i dont understand by whats great and whats not?China is so great,can u go live there except HK/Shanghai?

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Indians are very hard workers man,mentally and physically.But this is not about that,you ll never get labour in India for a few pennies as you might get there.

What I was saying was that I dont know about the future but at this moment in time china holds all the cards when compared to india and thats what the thread is about

 

[Yeti]

India to be Asia's top exporter of petro products‎

nation perennially lacking in oil and gas assets is set to become the top petro products exporter in Asia overtaking South Korea, thanks to rapidly rising refining capacity.

Petro products are obtained after distillation of crude oil and include petrol, diesel, kerosene, LPG, furnace oil, aviation turbine fuel and naphtha.

As on June 2011, India’s exports of refined products stood at 0.95 million barrels per day, while South Korea was at around 1.1 million barrels.

The Indian figures include only the exports of private refiners such as Essar Oil and Reliance Industries, according to the data from Platts. Downstream players such as government oil companies also refine but don’t export the stuff.

India’s exports are also 68% more than China, Asia’s biggest crude importer, which refines around 0.30 million barrels per day.

Vandana Hari, Asia editorial director, Platts, a Singapore-based global information provider on energy and metals, during Platts Oil Forum on Tuesday, said with no major refining capacity coming up in South Korea in the next couple of years and a major capacity ramp up happening in India, India is expected to take over South Korea very soon.

India will be adding refining capacity of close to 800,000 barrels per day (bpd) till 2013.

The first to come up will be a 120,000 bpd refinery coming up at Bina in Madhya Pradesh by BPCL and partner.

Later in the year, HPCL and Mittal will be commissioning an 180,000 bpd plant at Bathinda in Punjab.

Next year, Essar Oil will be expanding its capacity of Vadinar refinery from 300,000 bpd to 375,000 bpd, while Nagarjuna Oil and Indian Oil will be adding a capacities of 120,000 bpd and 300,000 bpd, respectively, by 2012-13.

Experts, however, are apprehensive about the return on investment from these ramp-ups because of subdued markets abroad.

“While exports will surely draw dollar revenues for exporters, will they continue to enjoy excellent margins?” asks Jigar Shah, head of research from brokerage Kimeng Securities.

There are two reasons for this: one, the demand for automotive fuel world over has come down and the price difference between sweet crude and sour crude, which is extensively leveraged by export-oriented refiners, has narrowed.

“I don’t think Reliance, which has the finest refinery in the country, can go back to margins of $15 per barrel anymore,” he said, adding that most of the export-focused refiners are based on sour crude.

A top official in one of the biggest private sector refiners in India said the superior Brent sweet or light crude is currently priced at $110 per barrel while sour or heavy crude is around $106. High-tech refiners enjoy good margins when they refine sour crude and export it.