India May Expand Su-30MKI Order Beyond 272

[he-man]

Thank god that you are not the CAS.
Else the IAF would've had to roll out a state funeral three times a day.

Cas must be saying the same things as me looking at the ageing fleet of mig-21,27 etc.

 

[kaykay]

Na,there is no aesa being selected as of now.

The only upgrade they will undergo in future is the ability to carry brahmos.

Nothing else has been selected and that fucking pisses me off

Thats true. They haven't even selected radars. But as we see they don't have much option so they may end up going with Zhuk-AE(FGA-35 version with around 1100 tr modules and around 200km detection range for 5 m2 rcs).

 

[Black Eagle 90]

Going by the pace at which the Indian Air Force (IAF) is expanding bases for the Sukhoi-30MKI fighters, ordering more of these Russian-made aircraft looks a distinct possibility.
The expansion of the Su-30MKI fleet may happen irrespective of the progress in the MMRCA deal in which negotiations with the French manufacturer Dassault are on. India had in 2002 ordered 230 fighters and a further 42 had been ordered in 2012.

The Ministry of Defense has already announced plans to set up new bases to house the aircraft that are expected to be delivered up to 2018-19. The rapid expansion of bases housing the Sukhois while at the same time curtailing MiG-21 operations is a clear indication of the important role the Su-30MKI is playing for the IAF and the need for even more aircraft of this type in future.

Some 100 Sukhois will be spread out to bases such as Thanjavur in the deep south, Chabua in the northeast and Pune in western India, according to media reports.

"Thanjavur airbase is going to be another strategically important airbase of the Indian Air Force. By stationing our frontline fighter aircraft Sukhoi at Thanjavur, IAF can protect vast area of interest", India’s defence minister, AK Antony said after inaugurating the airbase on March 27, 2013.



Aside of the air dominance function for which the Sukhois had been originally procured, they are being utilized for interception and for reconnaissance. Recently, a Su-30 MKI had been scrambled to intercept an unidentified flying object entering Indian airspace form the western border. Some 4-8 Su-30MKIs are being tasked with strategic reconnaissance along the India-Pakistan borders with EL/M-2060P SAR pods, various reports said.



The fitment of the BrahMos cruise missile to the Su-30MKI will add another dimension to this vastly capable fighter. Reports say that some 40 Sukhois will be modified to carry this lethal armament which can function as an air-launched precision strike missile.

The induction of the Su-30MKIs seems to have increased the confidence and capability of the IAF as can be noted from this statement of the former IAF Chief NAK Browne, “right now we have 34 combat squadrons and in spite of these draw downs of the MIG-21s, we are supplementing them with the Su-30 squadrons”. The former chief had told a television network on October 5, 2012, “What’s going to happen is that at least in the 12th plan which finishes in 2017 we will continue to maintain 34 squadrons. They go up a little bit, up and down but they will remain at 34 squadrons but with far greater capability than even what we have today.”



As of March 2013, the IAF had a fleet of 194 Su-30MKI aircraft but this number will grow to 272 after India placed another order in December 2012 for 42 aircraft about 10 months after declaring Dassault winner of the MMRCA competition.

The licence-manufacturing program of the Su-30MKI is expected to conclude in 2018-19. “We hope to form 14 squadrons of Su-30MKI fighters by 2018. By this time we will have 272 such planes in service”, an unnamed HAL official was quoted as saying by Itar-Tass on February 24, 2014.



With the Su-30MKI getting increasingly entrenched into the IAF’s combat capability, provisions will have to be made for maintaining SU-30MKI utilization levels. As the number of sorties increase, so also will the requirement for maintenance and overhaul for which aircraft will have to be withdrawn from service.



The Su-30 MKI planes have not been without their share of problems. Three crashes, in 2009, 2011 and 2013 have forced the IAF, Irkut and HAL to sit down and find solutions to the problems which came to fore after the accident investigations. The good news is that the past year has been relatively problem-free despite increased sorties.

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So 350 MKIs will be in fleet replacing all of its MiG-21s and I think that IAF should acquire 150 Mirage-2000s from FAF to replace their 126++ MiG-23/27s from the fleet. Also can gain Jaguars as spares from Oman, France and UK.

 

[he-man]

Thats true. They haven't even selected radars. But as we see they don't have much option so they may end up going with Zhuk-AE(FGA-35 version with around 1100 tr modules and around 200km detection range for 5 m2 rcs).

No zhuk will power only migs,thats the way its always been.

Mki's will be fitted with tikhomirov niip radar.
Which one?no one knows but we may end up getting the n036 of pakfa as there is no russian aesa besides it and the zhuk

 

[Capt.Popeye]

Cas must be saying the same things as me looking at the ageing fleet of mig-21,27 etc.

He has'nt been given a state funeral yet; has he?

So 350 MKIs will be in fleet replacing all of its MiG-21s and I think that IAF should acquire 150 Mirage-2000s from FAF to replace their 126++ MiG-23/27s from the fleet. Also can gain Jaguars as spares from Oman, France and UK.

Hey man, Nishan 101; you ought to go into business as a broker, buying and selling aircraft for AFs around the world. You're guaranteed to become a Billionaire........

 

[NKVD]

Nope.
272 are simple ones,not super.

Nope.
272 are simple ones,not super.
Deal for additional 42 has already been signed and they ain't super

No the deal is for 230 mki's Previously Increase to 272. And the 42 mki's that are Ordered is Not for IAF but For Strategic Forces Command (SFC).agree they are Not super Upgrades

 

[arp2041]

Count will around 400.

431 to be precise.

 

[NKVD]

No zhuk will power only migs,thats the way its always been.

Mki's will be fitted with tikhomirov niip radar.
Which one?no one knows but we may end up getting the n036 of pakfa as there is no russian aesa besides it and the zhuk

Yeah agree on that Mate Even are Lca are getting Aesa Which are Second line fighters. IAF Will go for aesa only.

431 to be precise.

Did you Even Now the price of Sukhoi Mki is increased to 102 Million Each From Previous 67 Million

 

[arp2041]

Did you Even Now the price of Sukhoi Mki is increased to 102 Million Each From Previous 67 Million

We can afford anything now............I was thinking that we may buy 200 F-22s b'coz "Ache Din Aney Waley hai"

 

[NKVD]

We can afford anything now............I was thinking that we may buy 200 F-22s b'coz "Ache Din Aney Waley hai" :rolleye:

Bhai we have to take considered are pockets Be Practical also Rafale deal is On maybe By year End. And the cost of Rafale and Sukhoi are almost Same Now May be Add few bucks to Rafale But its Also have to Offer better Quality and Better Tech

 

[kaykay]

No zhuk will power only migs,thats the way its always been.

Mki's will be fitted with tikhomirov niip radar.
Which one?no one knows but we may end up getting the n036 of pakfa as there is no russian aesa besides it and the zhuk

ZhukAEs are compatible with both Flankers and Fulcrums. And If MKI goes for Pak-Fa's AESA then even better though no one knows whats in MoDs mind.

 

[he-man]

ZhukAEs are compatible with both Flankers and Fulcrums. And If MKI goes for Pak-Fa's AESA then even better though no one knows whats in MoDs mind.

Trust me on this man.
Zhuk-ae is a bad radar

 

[Omega007]

You would have done many things mr super man,I knpw that and I also know that each and every one of those things would be nonsense.It's among the few of the better things happened to our country that you do not own any commanding post anywhere (and most probably would never own in future).

 

[Omega007]

Why not a good choice? It is pretty good for AWACS And AW&C.

The answer is simple boss.The AEW&CS are in general equipped with very powerful high power solid state barrage jammers.Given the small size and low power output of AAM seekers as they stand today,I've my doubts whether they will be able to burn through that much interference.Coupled to that,the high power AESA radars can direct its energy to a small point,the point being the seeker in this case (pencil beam) and farther create massive ammount of radio frequency interference.So I've got my doubts.

But given close proximity of PAF air bases to India due to their lack of strategic depth,it'll be more effective to try taking PAF assets including the AEW&CS aircrafts with ground and air launched LACMs and long range glide bombs.

 

[he-man]

You would have done many things mr super man,I knpw that and I also know that each and every one of those things would be nonsense.It's among the few of the better things happened to our country that you do not own any commanding post anywhere (and most probably would never own in future).

I am he-man,not super man.

I agree though super man is shite