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India loses fastest growing economy tag after sharp growth slowdown

So which major economy grew by more than 7.1% against whom India lost the fastest economic growth title?

Are you struggling to read? The growth forecast was 7.1% but ended up being 6.1%. China with the 6.7% growth rate thus again took the title of the fastest growing large economy.

Simply because you can not use word annual growth rate for quarterly growth rate.

I think they meant annualized growth rate. Many news outlets use the term "annualized growth" to reflect that, but yes "annual" may sound confusing.
 
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Are you struggling to read? The growth forecast was 7.1% but ended up being 6.1%. China with the 6.7% growth rate thus again took the title of the fastest growing large economy.

He is saying the total fiscal year growth is 7.1% growth...4 quarters combined came to 7.1% (and thats still fastest major economy growth by year). It just happens to coincide with the 7.1% (predicted for the quarter) in the article.

Also annual and annualised are not equivalent. Its a typo in the article.
 
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Are you struggling to read? The growth forecast was 7.1% but ended up being 6.1%. China with the 6.7% growth rate thus again took the title of the fastest growing large economy.

It is not me but you who is struggling to read. read bellow statement from Opening post.

Growth for the year ending in March came in at 7.1 percent, in line with the official estimate.
 
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That's pretty good. Considering that we removed an overwhelming majority of our currency(86%) from the market, its fantastic growth.

Next quarter we will be back to our tag of Worlds fastest growing major economy.
 
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Yup bunch of anti-nationals here have no idea this was expected (delayed impulse loading on GDP). They will of course ignore the long term analysis which is still ongoing (impact of higher tax base, formalisation and NPA resolution) as result of demonetisation....not to mention the massive (much much worse than a 1% quarterly drop in growth rate) problems/corrections that would have to occur in future if it was not done.

Also remember these idiots said that growth will drop to below 3% some even said below 1%.

They complain about jobless growth but criticize demonetisation.

They said the earlier growth numbers are fake, but now they use this number as truth.

Its pointless arguing with such ignorant dullard losers.

There are some social/structural problems in India's growth story. Not too many Indians recognize those problems, which is the real problem.
 
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There are some social/structural problems in India's growth story. Not too many Indians recognize those problems, which is the real problem.
You should spell these out for our Indian friends...efficient delivery of education, power, transportation, and health care infrastructure is the only barometer needed for modern economy. GDP is only the end result.
 
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There are some social/structural problems in India's growth story. Not too many Indians recognize those problems, which is the real problem.

This demonetisation, expected slowdown, expected pickup in next quarter, previous quarter being higher than expected....all have nothing to do with that.

Not far from my birthplace, the most heinous things happened to so called "untouchable" people in the 50s and 60s when my parents were just kids.....on a near regular basis. The odd snippet of preserved news sometimes captures the larger "incidents" when word of mouth didn't. Those papers back then were often the only one published, now you have to dig for them at the news-stand....and look for the date they were established to know their heritage.

Now the local district elections have many "untouchable" candidates as well regularly competing. Neither are they staunchly segregated and used as total slaves for what others deem them fit for. Is it perfect, ideal situation today? Nope. Is it a lot better than before? Definitely. Will it be better in future? For sure.

This trend goes for every other non-GDP issue. In the birth year of my mom, 165+ babies out of 1000 born would die in their first year...almost 1 in every 6. In my birth year it was 98 per 1000. My sister birth year around 80 per 1000. It is currently around 35. It will be likely below 25 when I plan to have a kid.

People forget what India as a newer country was like back then....or they just don't talk much about it. Year on year or even decade on decade GDP growth cannot capture what happens on the ground regarding what you describe...given the time scales and issues involved. Nothing really can.

India today definitely has a much better chance of long term sustainable high growth (both economically and socially) than at any other point in its history. That will further improve as time goes by, now that quality of govt and information chains improve. That's all that really matters.
 
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http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...-growth-wrong-expert/articleshow/58973943.cms

India's national accounts on economic growth wrong: Expert
By PTI | Updated: Jun 03, 2017, 01.51 PM IST
WASHINGTON: India is not growing at a seven per cent rate as being reported by the government, an eminent Indian-origin economist has claimed, citing flat growth in several key sectors.

"They (India's national accounts) show India's growing at seven per cent a year. But I along with many other economists, I'm afraid don't believe the national accounts. They were redone in 2011," Vijay R Joshi, Emeritus Fellow of Merton College, Oxford and Reader Emeritus in Economics, University of Oxford, told a Washington audience.

Joshi, the author of a book titled 'India's Long Road--The Search for Prosperity' alleged that India's growth rate is back at 5.5 per cent, but the national accounts show a much rosier picture.

During a discussion organised by the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, a top American think-tank, the London-based economist gave several reasons to prove his point.

"I will say one thing, (India's national accounts) is the only place where you can see seven per cent growth. You can't see it anywhere else. If you look at exports and imports, they have been flat. Shrinking or flat or growing very slowly. If you look at employment in the organised sector it's at a standstill," he argued.

"If you look at industrial production, it has been growing very slowly. If you look at bank credit, it has been growing very slowly. Bank credit in the industry has grown poorly in recent years," he asserted.

"And especially if you look at investment, it has collapsed. The investment ratio which was 34 per cent of GDP in 2011 is now 27 per cent of GDP. So investment has really collapsed. (Thus) it is hard to believe that national income is growing at seven per cent a year," Joshi said.

Responding to questions, Joshi said that under the present trends, India is unlikely to grow at seven-nine per cent a year for the next 25 years.

"Not on present trends. Not unless we really get our act together. We can probably continue to grow at 5-5.5 per cent a year," he said, adding that a long-term growth rate of seven to nine per cent a year is a feat that has rarely been achieved by a democratic country like India.

"This is a feat that has been achieved very rarely. It has been achieved only by three countries. That is China, South Korea, and Taiwan and perhaps Singapore."

Responding to another question, Joshi said while the Indian government led by Prime Minister Narendra Modi has done quite well, but it has completely neglected the education and health sectors.



http://www.livemint.com/Opinion/IyM...ls-to-61-Narendra-Modi-should-be-worried.html
India GDP falls to 6.1%, Narendra Modi should be worried
India’s no longer the fastest-growing large economy in the world, and government ministers are going to need a new first line for their speeches
Mihir Sharma
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For quite awhile now, it’s been rare to hear the name “India” without the giddy qualifier, “the world’s fastest-growing large economy.” Those seeking to promote India as a destination for investment — including, perhaps especially, its government — have driven home the message that India is the “bright spot” in the global economy.

The latest data on economic growth have, however, punctured that narrative reasonably effectively. While full-year growth for 2016-17 came in at a respectable 7.1%, the numbers have benefited from a change in how inflation is measured. The real news is that fourth-quarter GDP growth fell to 6.1% — lower, in other words, than China’s. India’s no longer the fastest-growing large economy in the world, and government ministers are going to need a new first line for their speeches.

It would be easy to blame this on Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s disastrous decision, last November, to withdraw 86% of India’s currency from circulation. His predecessor, Manmohan Singh, said in Parliament at the time that the move might dent growth by two percentage points or more, and that estimate might well be borne out by these numbers.

But what’s more worrying is that it’s now clear that India’s economy was slowing well before Modi delivered a coup de grace last November. Growth in gross value added — output as measured from the economy’s supply side — has slowed every quarter since last spring: It’s down from 8.7% to 5.6% in these latest figures. The problem isn’t just demonetization: Something is very wrong with India’s engine of growth, which looks to be spluttering.

The biggest problem is, of course, that nobody is investing. Those speeches about how India was the world economy’s sole bright spot might have won enthusiastic applause, but too few investors and companies followed up with actual money. As a proportion of GDP, investment has trended downwards for some time, and is now well below 30%. Investment actually shrank in absolute terms in 2016-17.

Partly, that’s because the government has simply not moved swiftly or decisively enough to address India’s mountain of bad loans beyond passing a bankruptcy law and, more recently, giving the central bank additional power to force resolutions in the most pressing cases. Much of Indian investment, even for large-scale, growth-enhancing infrastructure projects, is routed through banks. And public-sector banks, struggling with their balance sheets, are reluctant to lend. Bank credit growth has recently hit multi-decade lows.

But that’s hardly the only problem. As and when banks are willing to lend, they find too few takers for funds. Companies complain, of course, that the Reserve Bank of India — now officially targeting inflation — is keeping real interest rates too high. What’s more relevant, however, is that the government hasn’t worked hard enough to reduce the sort of risk that worries investors who’ve been burned multiple times in the past when they reposed faith in the “India story.” India desperately needs a more efficient and less intrusive state, as well as deeper and more flexible markets. But structural reform of that sort has been taken off the government’s agenda.

The finance minister, in a press conference after the GDP data was released, defended the government’s record by highlighting the troubles it inherited, and the poor monsoons with which it’s had to deal. He wasn’t wrong, but that’s not the whole story. While the government inherited an underperforming economy in 2014, the data show it was tracking upwards. The business cycle was turning, commodity prices were easing and growth was increasing steadily as Modi took office.

And while there have indeed been bad monsoons, the last one was excellent — a fact that’s visible in the strong performance of the agricultural sector in the latest data. In other words, if the economy started slowing two years into the government’s tenure, and that loss of momentum has continued and intensified, then it can blame nobody but itself.

What has India’s government done wrong? Its greatest faults have been a lack of focus, a shortage of ambition and misplaced priorities. Since he took over three years ago, Modi has focused on being simply a competent manager and an investment-oriented marketing man for the India story. He seemed to believe that would be enough to propel India to double-digit growth.

But it’s now clear that this simply isn’t enough. Deeper reform can’t be avoided any longer: defanging India’s obstructive state, cleaning up its judicial processes and dispute resolution, reforming and privatizing state-owned banks, easing restrictive land and labor laws. Investors were willing, early in Modi’s tenure, to buy into the idea that he would start on some of these long-pressing problems; that enthusiasm has clearly dissipated now.

Given that the political opposition is in disarray, Modi might imagine that he will coast to reelection easily in 2019. But these numbers should be a wake-up call. Unless he starts working on real structural reforms immediately, the damage to India’s growth story — and to his own image — could be permanent.Bloomberg
 
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Vijay R Joshi conveniently ignores several more important markers in energy, materials and transportation.

No wonder IMF kicked him out from their publication roster some years back for being generally incompetent.
 
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When the economic growth rate of your neighbouring country hits a low but is still a lot faster than yours
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A fudge up GDP to make Indian the fastest economy last yr to fool the Indian after Modi was elected, Indian real grown in GDP was around 5-6 percent and not around 7-8 percent claimed by Indian government.
 
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When the economic growth rate of your neighbouring country hits a low but is still a lot faster than yours
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What happened to Jeremy as your avatar? Almost didn't recognise you lol.

A fudge up GDP to make Indian the fastest economy last yr to fool the Indian after Modi was elected, Indian real grown in GDP was around 5-6 percent and not around 7-8 percent claimed by Indian government.

The "fudge" was done years before Modi came to power (under IMF SNA and Manmohan Singh govt discussions). Read up on the subject before you open your mouth.
 
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