India Limits its Options

[Chanakyaa]

LOL at the Indian going bonkers from the Doklam humiliation!

Congratulations Dude.
You just Proved you cannot understand Plain English.

 

[Clutch]

Wrong Assessment.
Proof : Doklam ,2017.

Read & Educate of what INDIA DID : https://www.lowyinstitute.org/the-interpreter/doklam-who-won

which says :

Unless China brings back the bulldozers soon, India will have won this round.
Which INDIA DID.

Okay... Can Pakistan do in Kashmir what China just did in Ladakh?... IM JUST GIVING INDIA MORE CHANCES TO "WIN".

 

[Trango Towers]

Wrong Assessment.
Proof : Doklam ,2017.

Read & Educate of what INDIA DID : https://www.lowyinstitute.org/the-interpreter/doklam-who-won

which says :

Unless China brings back the bulldozers soon, India will have won this round.
Which INDIA DID.

Yes....you know best

 

[Chanakyaa]

Okay... Can Pakistan do in Kashmir what China just did in Ladakh?... IM JUST GIVING INDIA MORE CHANCES TO "WIN".

Sir, Its your choice.
This choice wont be exercised for the first time though. It would be the THIRD.

Yes....you know best

I never told you to trust me. Why would you ?
It NOT WRITTEN BY ANY INDIAN, which says what you can read yourself.

 

[Aspen]

Okay... Can Pakistan do in Kashmir what China just did in Ladakh?... IM JUST GIVING INDIA MORE CHANCES TO "WIN".

China can do it in Ladakh because LAC is a boundary, not a line. The line has a neutral buffer zone of about 3km which both sides can go up to. LOC does not have a neutral buffer zone, you are either in Pakistan or India, it's black and white. So it is harder to make incursions without a neutral buffer "gray" zone that exists on LAC.

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

So Pravin criticizes a lot of what India did or did not do over the years. I can understand that.

What I do not understand is his definition of "kinetic" warfare and the other buzz terms he uses glowingly of the Chinese.

Can anyone intelligent enough and militarily savvy provide some input on this?

Example

Suppose you wish to deprive an enemy of recon satellite advantages in a battlefield

Kinetic means - using a ASAT missile to completely destroy the satellite

non-Kinetic means - cyber attack on the satellite ground communications infrastructure such that it loses communications with the satellite permanently

 

[Asian.Century]

Most Indians will want to keep their head down in the sand, deny and go by Modi's fabricated political deception. Watch Pravin Sawhney, an Indian defence analyst unmask misery of India and reveal who is actually at fault in Ladakh.

Published on 1 Jun 2020

Almost every Pakistani 220 million now knows about Indian Media, Anchors, Indian Govt and Indian Army repeated lies, the lies we all saw past 5 years.

What is now the trend is the whole world now knows how India lies so much, keep on lying, fabricating history, fabricating maps, fake stories, false bravado. One thing is sure, nobody takes India seriously.

India has become a vassal state which blames all its problems to Pakistan, China, Nepal etc etc.

Indian economy is failing, it is fast becoming a empty, weakest country from inside for a fact.

 

[blain2]

"Since then, however.." Lol!

 

[NAVDEEP DHALIWAL]

Actually, born Chinese and Indian govt decided to Retreat. No1 agreed to others point of view.

That's why right now Chinese are building roads towards doklam. They have already built temp shelters near it.

India is way behind as usual, but is also building roads to reach doklam faster. It has just finished 1 road near it but not right to doklam. I think road is at black tarmac stage .

 

[xeuss]

Example

Suppose you wish to deprive an enemy of recon satellite advantages in a battlefield

Kinetic means - using a ASAT missile to completely destroy the satellite

non-Kinetic means - cyber attack on the satellite ground communications such that it loses communications with the satellite permanently

Cool! Thanks for the education.

The first thing to note is, The Dispute is BETWEEN > BHUTAN & CHINA. Period.

And what happned next was this :

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-42834609

Regarding the ROAD :

https://warontherocks.com/2018/06/doklam-one-year-later-chinas-long-game-in-the-himalayas/

China may have backed down last year because local PLA units were caught off guard by India’s rapid response and because Xi Jinping did not wish to face a diplomatic fiasco months before his leadership tenure was to be renewed at the 19th Party Congress.

Rather than escalating the Doklam dispute, which may have forced India to respond more aggressively and galvanized the United States or others to step up in support, China shrewdly backed off and resumed its activities only when the international media glare had subsided, and in a way that minimized India’s concern about losing the high ground.

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Ok cool. But don't you think that China ultimately got what it wanted?

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

Cool! Thanks for the education.



Ok cool. But don't you think that China ultimately got what it wanted?

Depends on results of Bhutan's stance on China

The Chinese transgressions happened because of Bhutan action of voting against OBOR with the goal of pressurizing Bhutan

Militarily it was foolish and unrealistic for PLA attempt to take Doka La

 

[Crystal-Clear]

Wrong Summary/Conculsion ( By You ).
Proof : Doklam ,2017.

Read & Educate of what INDIA DID : https://www.lowyinstitute.org/the-interpreter/doklam-who-won

which says :

Unless China brings back the bulldozers soon, India will have won this round.
Which INDIA DID.

they are deploying artillery right next to the strategic road . what do india do ?
what india do when Chinese PLA wer advancing in galwam valley ?

 

[Aspen]

Pravin Sawhney said in one of his earlier videos that one of India's biggest mistakes on LOC was that Pakistan fooled India into accepting LOC as border instead of a boundary when India decided to build a fence, so now India focuses on defending its fence instead of going offensively to capture Azad Kashmir, since they psychologically restricted themselves from going further by building a fence.

It looks like India is going to make the same mistake again and get played by Chinese this time.

 

[xeuss]

Pravin Sawhney said in one of his earlier videos that one of India's biggest mistakes on LOC was that Pakistan fooled India into accepting LOC as border instead of a boundary when India decided to build a fence, so now India focuses on defending its fence instead of going offensively to capture Azad Kashmir, since they psychologically restricted themselves from going further by building a fence.

It looks like India is going to make the same mistake again and get played by Chinese this time.

I think India will be comfortable making the LOC a permanent border.

 

[Aspen]

I think India will be comfortable making the LOC a permanent border.

Well that's the problem for India. Their original goal was to take all of Azad Kashmir and Gilgit Baltistan but they became comfortable with LOC when they constructed fence that mentally put them in a defensive posture instead of an offensive position. LOC was temporary until India built fence and then it became permanent. Pakistan benefitted most from this Indian blunder.