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India killing Bangladeshi's randomly in border like as Kashmir. What's the difference?

So name it. I don't think you even know what the units in the Bangladesh Army are, or how they are equipped, or where located, or what their missions are. I think you are a monumental bluff, and you are getting revealed as one with each question that you are asked.


LOL. You got huge tension., RELAX> Are you out of ur mind? i will tell u how many BD army units we have, Where they are and what weapon they are using. etce?? ? ha ha ha . Very clever.

I am not giving any direct answer of any Q what is asked. Agreed. Because the question formula is wrong .

By the way- READ my post again. Why you guyz brought nill types of question and asking kids type of question, that is out of my mind.
 
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LOL. You got huge tension., RELAX> Are you out of ur mind? i will tell u how many BD army units we have, Where they are and what weapon they are using. etce?? ? ha ha ha . Very clever.

I am not giving any direct answer of any Q what is asked. Agreed. Because the question formula is wrong .

By the way- READ my post again. Why you guyz brought nill types of question and asking kids type of question, that is out of my mind.

Good. Now we know what you are worth. You don't know even about your own Army, Navy or Air Force, when any military analyst or commentator can rattle it off. When someone like me can rattle it off.

You are not giving an answer to anything at all. Because you can't. You are just a little bluffer. Totally worthless.
 
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Yes that girl's death was tragic.. I ain't being hypocritical.. I saw the pics of her hanging on the fence and it was a sad site...

Having said that the crossing the fence itself was dangerous for the girl .Have you seen the barbed wire and the long border fence where she got stuck? What was she and her father doing there? Picnic? Her illegal immigrant father persuaded her to jump over the barbed wire fence on international border..He did all that completely aware that it was dangerous for both of them.. What kinda father does that... He should be jail...


It is not only problem of immigration . Illegal immigrants under the administration of any Govt. So all responsibility goes to Indian Govt. And their foreign policy. After all stillnow it contains UK ruling method. Border sun RULES.
 
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It is not only problem of immigration . Illegal immigrants under the administration of any Govt. So all responsibility goes to Indian Govt. And their foreign policy. After all stillnow it contains UK ruling method. Border sun RULES.

What are you babbling about? All illegal immigrants are given the full cover of the law, once they are inside the country.

While they are trying to get in, illegally, they stand the risk of being shot; border guards are not authorised to take moral decisions on who is a terrorist and who is not.

Second, we are governed by our Constitution. So are you, a constitution written largely by our neighbour in Calcutta, whose son is still honoured whenever your government honours those who contributed to the growth of your country. You, on the other hand, are unlikely ever to figure in those lists.

Our past left wing governments(Congress, CPI) were responsible for most of the illegal immigration into Bengal and Assam.. Vote bank politics at the cost of national security and local identity in NE..


I think he has successfully distracted you.
 
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What are you babbling about? All illegal immigrants are given the full cover of the law, once they are inside the country.

While they are trying to get in, illegally, they stand the risk of being shot; border guards are not authorised to take moral decisions on who is a terrorist and who is not.

Second, we are governed by our Constitution. So are you, a constitution written largely by our neighbour in Calcutta, whose son is still honoured whenever your government honours those who contributed to the growth of your country. You, on the other hand, are unlikely ever to figure in those lists.




I think he has successfully distracted you.


The innocent game caught the attention of a group of Muslim men passing by just… ... A mob killed a dentist in west Delhi as he accosted two bikers for ... triggering social media outrage that immigrants were involved in the brutal attack. ... of the accused were Bangladeshis who were upset with India's win

India/Bangladesh: Indiscriminate Killings, Abuse by Border Officers .... BSF were killing “innocent, unarmed” Bangladeshi civilians by saying: “We fire ... troopers shouting at villagers, calling them names, and often making them wait .... are to contain the unauthorized influx of Bangladeshi economic migrants.
 
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The innocent game caught the attention of a group of Muslim men passing by just… ... A mob killed a dentist in west Delhi as he accosted two bikers for ... triggering social media outrage that immigrants were involved in the brutal attack. ... of the accused were Bangladeshis who were upset with India's win

India/Bangladesh: Indiscriminate Killings, Abuse by Border Officers .... BSF were killing “innocent, unarmed” Bangladeshi civilians by saying: “We fire ... troopers shouting at villagers, calling them names, and often making them wait .... are to contain the unauthorized influx of Bangladeshi economic migrants.

Can you re-write your note in either English or Bangla? The mixture is confusing. Something like your references to military strategy and to a supreme commander.
 
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Do good fences make good neighbours? Not along the India-Bangladesh border. Here, India has almost finished building a 2,000km fence. Where once people on both sides were part of a greater Bengal, now India has put up a "keep out" sign to stop illegal immigration, smuggling and infiltration by anti-government militants.

This might seem unexceptional in a world increasingly hostile to migration. But to police the border, India's Border Security Force (BSF), has carried out a shoot-to-kill policy - even on unarmed local villagers. The toll has been huge. Over the past 10 years Indian security forces have killed almost more then 1,000 people, mostly Bangladeshis, turning the border area into a south Asian killing fields. No one has been prosecuted for any of these killings, in spite of evidence in many cases that makes it clear the killings were in cold blood against unarmed and defenceless local residents.

Shockingly, some Indian officials endorse shooting people who attempt to cross the border illegally, even if they are unarmed. Almost as shocking is the lack of interest in these killings by foreign governments who claim to be concerned with human rights. A single killing by US law enforcement along the Mexican border makes headlines. The killing of large numbers of villagers by Indian forces has been almost entirely ignored.

The violence is routine and arbitrary. Alauddin Biswas described to Human Rights Watchthe killing of his 24-year-old nephew, who was suspected of cattle rustling, by Indian border guards in March 2010. "The BSF had shot him while he was lying on his back. They shot him in the forehead. If he was running away, he would have been shot in the back. They just killed him." The BSF claimed self-defence, but no weapons were recovered.

Some of the victims have been children. One father recounted how his sons were beaten by BSF officers. "The BSF personnel surrounded the boys and without giving any reason started beating them with rifle butts, kicking and slapping them. There were nine soldiers, and they beat my sons mercilessly. Even as the boys fell down, the BSF men continued to kick them ruthlessly on their chest and other sensitive organs."

ndia does not have the right to use lethal force except where strictly necessary to protect life. Yet some Indian officials openly admit that unarmed civilians are being killed. The head of the BSF, Raman Srivastava, says that people should not feel sorry for the victims, claiming that since these individuals were illegally entering Indian territory, often at night, they were "not innocent" and therefore were a legitimate target.

The response of various government officials to allegations of a shoot-to-kill policy has been confusing: we do shoot illegal border crossers since they are lawbreakers; we don't shoot border crossers; we only shoot in self-defence; we never shoot to kill. ??? So why people are getting blood ?

The question is whether this will be translated into action on the ground. Similar promises of "zero tolerance" for abuses have been made in Kashmir and elsewhere but have not been fulfilled.

As India's economy has grown and foreign investors have flocked in, its human rights record has largely flown under the radar in recent years. But India is a growing world power with increasing influence. It should understand that its behaviour will come under increasing scrutiny. Routinely shooting poor, unarmed villagers is not how the world's largest democracy should behave.


Do good fences make good neighbours? Not along the India-Bangladesh border. Here, India has almost finished building a 2,000km fence. Where once people on both sides were part of a greater Bengal, now India has put up a "keep out" sign to stop illegal immigration, smuggling and infiltration by anti-government militants.

This might seem unexceptional in a world increasingly hostile to migration. But to police the border, India's Border Security Force (BSF), has carried out a shoot-to-kill policy - even on unarmed local villagers. The toll has been huge. Over the past 10 years Indian security forces have killed almost more then 1,000 people, mostly Bangladeshis, turning the border area into a south Asian killing fields. No one has been prosecuted for any of these killings, in spite of evidence in many cases that makes it clear the killings were in cold blood against unarmed and defenceless local residents.

Shockingly, some Indian officials endorse shooting people who attempt to cross the border illegally, even if they are unarmed. Almost as shocking is the lack of interest in these killings by foreign governments who claim to be concerned with human rights. A single killing by US law enforcement along the Mexican border makes headlines. The killing of large numbers of villagers by Indian forces has been almost entirely ignored.

The violence is routine and arbitrary. Alauddin Biswas described to Human Rights Watchthe killing of his 24-year-old nephew, who was suspected of cattle rustling, by Indian border guards in March 2010. "The BSF had shot him while he was lying on his back. They shot him in the forehead. If he was running away, he would have been shot in the back. They just killed him." The BSF claimed self-defence, but no weapons were recovered.

Some of the victims have been children. One father recounted how his sons were beaten by BSF officers. "The BSF personnel surrounded the boys and without giving any reason started beating them with rifle butts, kicking and slapping them. There were nine soldiers, and they beat my sons mercilessly. Even as the boys fell down, the BSF men continued to kick them ruthlessly on their chest and other sensitive organs."

ndia does not have the right to use lethal force except where strictly necessary to protect life. Yet some Indian officials openly admit that unarmed civilians are being killed. The head of the BSF, Raman Srivastava, says that people should not feel sorry for the victims, claiming that since these individuals were illegally entering Indian territory, often at night, they were "not innocent" and therefore were a legitimate target.

The response of various government officials to allegations of a shoot-to-kill policy has been confusing: we do shoot illegal border crossers since they are lawbreakers; we don't shoot border crossers; we only shoot in self-defence; we never shoot to kill. ??? So why people are getting blood ?

The question is whether this will be translated into action on the ground. Similar promises of "zero tolerance" for abuses have been made in Kashmir and elsewhere but have not been fulfilled.

As India's economy has grown and foreign investors have flocked in, its human rights record has largely flown under the radar in recent years. But India is a growing world power with increasing influence. It should understand that its behaviour will come under increasing scrutiny. Routinely shooting poor, unarmed villagers is not how the world's largest democracy should behave.
First of all,where is the link ?

On topic : So 2000km border is fenced .Now villagers on both side ,no matter how much they are illiterate can see that fence in a distant .Avoid that area .BSF means Border Security Forces is just doing their job .
 
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Can you re-write your note in either English or Bangla? The mixture is confusing. Something like your references to military strategy and to a supreme commander.


With due respect - Topics title has been changed - and as a result you got my statement . And again and again you are trying to say- re-write english . or bla bla bla. it's your good luck that u understood what i m trying to say. Hope you got the point what i made.

First of all,where is the link ?

On topic : So 2000km border is fenced .Now villagers on both side ,no matter how much they are illiterate can see that fence in a distant .Avoid that area .BSF means Border Security Forces is just doing their job .


Everytime link doesn't matter . Matter is what is fact. The statement is clear.
 
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Not poor grammatical skill. I am writing in an another mood. If u can;t understand- thats your bad luck. By the way - It's india old method. OHHO no YOU Dn't know english. Its mess.

Your comment is out of topics order.

Atleast write in proper bengali so that I can understand what you meant.
 
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With due respect - Topics title has been changed - and as a result you got my statement . And again and again you are trying to say- re-write english . or bla bla bla. it's your good luck that u understood what i m trying to say. Hope you got the point what i made.




Everytime link doesn't matter . Matter is what is fact. The statement is clear.

And we gives two hoots to that 'obvious' statement .If you want to come to India ,apply for visa and visit our nation.
If you try to pole vault our borders then BSF will definitely shoots you down ,whether you likes or not and we give full support to BSF.
 
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With due respect - Topics title has been changed - and as a result you got my statement . And again and again you are trying to say- re-write english . or bla bla bla. it's your good luck that u understood what i m trying to say. Hope you got the point what i made.




Everytime link doesn't matter . Matter is what is fact. The statement is clear.

Actually it's only through good luck that anything that you say can be understood. The trouble is that you bring very little to any discussion. You cannot articulate your thinking very well; it comes out as a garbled mish-mash. You have no knowledge of military affairs or even of your own military; in contrast, i can give you your entire order of battle for all three services. You have no common sense, but just keep repeating plainly flatulent and idiotic statements, which are really meaningless. Not a single post of yours was in any way any contribution to the discussion.

Why don't you go away and come back sixty-seventy months later?
 
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What's the difference?
In Kashmir it's a surface to surface shot while in the eastern border they go down with a surface to air shot. Since they are either caught on the fence or in the middle of air pole vaulting.
 
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And we gives two hoots to that 'obvious' statement .If you want to come to India ,apply for visa and visit our nation.
If you try to pole vault our borders then BSF will definitely shoots you down ,whether you likes or not and we give full support to BSF.


How many Indians illegally staying in bd. do u know that ? So why BGB doesn't shoot them? As i said before - It;s all about foreign policy and indian front foot aggression.

Actually it's only through good luck that anything that you say can be understood. The trouble is that you bring very little to any discussion. You cannot articulate your thinking very well; it comes out as a garbled mish-mash. You have no knowledge of military affairs or even of your own military; in contrast, i can give you your entire order of battle for all three services. You have no common sense, but just keep repeating plainly flatulent and idiotic statements, which are really meaningless. Not a single post of yours was in any way any contribution to the discussion.

Why don't you go away and come back sixty-seventy months later?


who M i i dn't want to expose. I have knowledge about military purpose , i have no need to prove it to you . If you can't understand my diplomatic words, i have nothing to do. I have been working for military issues more then 10 years. However- Your comments is proving your manner .

What's the difference?
In Kashmir it's a surface to surface shot while in the eastern border they go down with a surface to air shot. Since they are either caught on the fence or in the middle of air pole vaulting.

The difference is Kashmir border and bd border is in the same condition.
 
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