India, Japan pantomime message to China

[sweetouch]

With every day passing by, I think China feels trapped and isolated.

Either way you look at it we are all at the mercy of the world's superpower may it be US or China.

 

[walle]

With every day passing by, I think China feels trapped and isolated.

Either way you look at it we are all at the mercy of the world's superpower may it be US or China.

Will never be like when the Soviet Union and United States both wanted to nuke china in the 60s.

Abe and his ministers has had a busy 1/2 year since taking office, they've managed to visit or be visited by pretty much every country around China. So far it hasn't achieved much, Chinese ships still patrolling the diaoyu islands.

 

[GR!FF!N]

it is not a big issue. China still build ports in Pakistan near by India and china also present in Diaoyu islands. I see both india and japan can nothing. it is just a game of japan. Japanese wants to handle fire from its hand to Indian's hand.

nope,China isn't present in Diaoyu islands.and to break "String of Perls",India;s "Iron Curtain" more than enough,because India controls several choke points of IOR region.

 

[Minjitta]

Sure it worked, that's why it was continued for so long. The modern system of the west is also working, why else would the Western block be so powerful and rich.

True different countries need different system, when did I say other nation should copy another? Not sure where this is coming from.

Anyone can clearly see Chinese foreign relationships with Pakistan, NK, and many African countries as well as some Asian countries are clearly different from the West. So while I call it new world order, it really is just that. True coined by the West, never the less the term world order in Chinese has existed long before the coining of this term by the West.

Even NK don't like China,
What ever happen with Mynamar?
So now China only have one (unhappy NK) allied, the road to the Chinese version of NWO are in the great shape, good luck.

 

[GR!FF!N]

Will never be like when the Soviet Union and United States both wanted to nuke china in the 60s.

Abe and his ministers has had a busy 1/2 year since taking office, they've managed to visit or be visited by pretty much every country around China. So far it hasn't achieved much, Chinese ships still patrolling the diaoyu islands.

actually,he achieved quite a lot.he gave assistance to Philippines to strengthen its Navy/Coast Guard,which Japan didn't do for nearly 70 years.They are selling Planes to India now,major shift from its policy.now,Japan is changing its self imposed non-aggressive defence policy and aligning itself with other countries to develop an Anti-China block.Vietnam and Philippines is just the start.

 

[walle]

actually,he achieved quite a lot.he gave assistance to Philippines to strengthen its Navy/Coast Guard,which Japan didn't do for nearly 70 years.They are selling Planes to India now,major shift from its policy.now,Japan is changing its self imposed non-aggressive defence policy and aligning itself with other countries to develop an Anti-China block.Vietnam and Philippines is just the start.

Interesting take on the anti-china block. However perhaps you'd like to visit some news on SCS or east china sea, chinese stances has not changed.

 

[GR!FF!N]

Interesting take on the anti-china block. However perhaps you'd like to visit some news on SCS or east china sea, chinese stances has not changed.

same goes for other countries as well..its not the stance we're talking about.its the prevention measure of the fulfillment of the objective China set up.Most of the China's neighbours are relatively smaller and weaker countries.without forming a block,most of them are unmatched.

 

[soaringeagle]

Why are the two most populated countries in the world bashing against each other? Both should know that either one will not, cannot, and won't have any benefit at all by beating or occupying the other.
An enemy's enemy is always a friend (at least during the time of the fight), an enemy's friend is not necessarily an enemy.

However, a foe who has a track record of betraying his alliance in a flash and willing to sell his mother for a few dollars more, is always an enemy.

 

[walle]

same goes for other countries as well..its not the stance we're talking about.its the prevention measure of the fulfillment of the objective China set up.Most of the China's neighbours are relatively smaller and weaker countries.without forming a block,most of them are unmatched.

How you expect a block to be form? when the countries are so fragmented to begin with. No shared culture, no shared ideology, different levels of economic development etc...

Its easier said than done. Chinese dispute are with its east asian and south east neighbours, India seems very egar to get admist of this, or at least try to get some kudo points in the process.

 

[Guynextdoor2]

Japan is part of the US Alliance of developed countries such as UK, France, Germany South Korea(sort of)m and other European nations.

India is, well not. Indians can only be the junior partner in such an "alliance" if nothing else, the Japanese weapons will always be better, the Japanese forces will always be more educated and well trained as well as better paid, the Japanese will have the backings of US.

China is trying to establish a new world order, not out of boredom, but necessity. The old order has no room for China with US as the one on top and the developed countries on tier two and China can only be on the bottom.

It is better if India is looking to establish its own power rather than alliance with a world order that pretty much puts you on the bottom of the food chain.

The old order doesn't have place for China because China is a DICTATORSHIP and their govt don't respect their own people. If the PEOPLE of china have no control over their own government, why should the world believe that the CCP will be made to behave ethically and honestly in anything?

 

[GR!FF!N]

How you expect a block to be form? when the countries are so fragmented to begin with. No shared culture, no shared ideology, different levels of economic development etc...

Its easier said than done. Chinese dispute are with its east asian and south east neighbours, India seems very egar to get admist of this, or at least try to get some kudo points in the process.

Nope.India already declared that it'll not join any block that aimed to contain China.Its not India's policy to gang up.but we always have to keep an eye on China,and all of our engagement is bilateral.and it doesn't need common culture,ideology or economic development to form a group.just common goal and interest can unite them.

 

[soaringeagle]

With every day passing by, I think China feels trapped and isolated.

Either way you look at it we are all at the mercy of the world's superpower may it be US or China.

Don't worry, both China and USA will like to keep SG on the friendly (at least neutral ) side. Your military is strong enough to keep any invader at bay till help arrives. SG will remain stable.

 

[walle]

Nope.India already declared that it'll not join any block that aimed to contain China.Its not India's policy to gang up.but we always have to keep an eye on China,and all of our engagement is bilateral.and it doesn't need common culture, ideology or economic development to form a group.just common goal and interest can unite them.

Its in none of the fore mentioned countries interest to **** off china, unless they don't like chinese money and hope their economies stall, yet they (Japan in particular) seem quite adamant about it. How would an anti-china block work then?

 

[soaringeagle]

Sorry brother, taking your money is one thing, use that money to stab you at the back is another. CN went through one of such painful experience in the 60s and 70s.

Its in none of the fore mentioned countries interest to **** off china, unless they don't like chinese money and hope their economies stall, yet they (Japan in particular) seem quite adamant about it. How would an anti-china block work then?

 

[walle]

Sorry brother, taking your money is one thing, use that money to stab you at the back is another. CN went through one of such painful experience in the 60s and 70s.

Thing is this isn't the 60s or 70s.

Economies are interconnected more than ever before, geopolitics is no longer aligned with political ideology its becoming more about money and resources. The entire dispute in east and south china sea runs back to the same notion.