India, Italy work on deal on marines - Secret talks on 'road map'

[Providence]

Settlement is easy. Fulfill the conditions laid out and take them back.

Has There Been A American or European Citizen Killed Same Way the Western Media Might Have gone Berserk.

Well unfortunately Americans don't feel any kinship for "whites". Referring a person or a group by skin color is being racist. You guys might want to shove that racism up your *** and stop talking like a primary school kid. What is important is a way of the situation.

Its not a question of ego. Its the rule of law & order. Marines have to go through the legal procedures. behind bars? They are living happy life for past 4 years with all the comfort. Any murder conviction carries min 10 years imprisonment.

I am always surprised at white mans audacity ( like yours) where they tend to brush aside heinous crimes if it is committed against other ppl. A similar crime in US would have sealed his fate for 20 years. Only criminals negotiate with other criminals.

Oh. please. Rule of law my ***. If you guys had such high standards and respect for the law, the corruption levels wouldn't have been that high. Oh while we are at it, pray tell me how many of your standing senators have serious charges against them? I am sure its beyond your fingertips. So don't bother answering.

This seems to undermine the entire principle of the rule of law. Most nations in the world imprison murderers for extended periods of time, even manslaughter is dealth with with mandatory jail stretches in most nations I can think of. I'm not sure where "ego" comes into practicing the rule of law. I do agree though, that both sides have taken this far too personally and allowed this incident to dicate their strategic interests which is incredibly foolish.

Rule of law's sole purpose is to serve as a deterrent. My point is, the purpose has been served. I am sure Italy wants her marines back and doubly sure India might want to get something done by the Italians - from a strategic point of view.

Time is upon both to come to the table !

 

[Abingdonboy]

Rule of law's sole purpose is to serve as a deterrent.

Is it? Do we call it the "detterent system" or the "justice system"? Detterance plays a part but there is also the fact that one's actions have consequences.

And if the sole purpose is for a detterance then letting these two off would set a dangerous precedent- if you are caucasion and backed by your government you can kill poor non-white folk at will and walk free?

 

[Providence]

Is it? Do we call it the "detterent system" or the "justice system"? Detterance plays a part but there is also the fact that one's actions have consequences.

And if the sole purpose is for a detterance then letting these two off would set a dangerous precedent- if you are caucasion and backed by your government you can kill poor non-white folk at will and walk free?

Yes consequences are there which is why the deterrence works. Don't let your emotions get the better of you. This is a dispute between two nations. Should be treated from that perspective.

 

[atomix]

Oh. please. Rule of law my ***. If you guys had such high standards and respect for the law, the corruption levels wouldn't have been that high. Oh while we are at it, pray tell me how many of your standing senators have serious charges against them? I am sure its beyond your fingertips. So don't bother answering.

We eat s**** thats none of your business. It does not give you the license or right throw s**** at us. There are judicial mechanism in place which will deal with corruption in my country however bad it may be.
If morons cant follow the law of the land let them stay away from it. Marines should count themselves lucky as they committed the crime in India , if it was some ME country they would have been dispatched with their body in pieces.

Time is upon both to come to the table !

Should we implement stoning by death for these morons ? They are trying to subvert justice and indulging in contempt of court.

 

[H.B.]

Well unfortunately Americans don't feel any kinship for "whites". Referring a person or a group by skin color is being racist. You guys might want to shove that racism up your *** and stop talking like a primary school kid. What is important is a way of the situation.



Oh. please. Rule of law my ***. If you guys had such high standards and respect for the law, the corruption levels wouldn't have been that high. Oh while we are at it, pray tell me how many of your standing senators have serious charges against them? I am sure its beyond your fingertips. So don't bother answering.



Rule of law's sole purpose is to serve as a deterrent. My point is, the purpose has been served. I am sure Italy wants her marines back and doubly sure India might want to get something done by the Italians - from a strategic point of view.

Time is upon both to come to the table !

Why did you quote me the in your rant?

 

[Ankit Kumar]

Two things should be clear.
1. The Marines and our accession to MTCR and NSG are not related.
Why? Because if it was by any kind, we wouldn't have had Italians help build our aircraft carriers, frigates, supply naval guns and AESA radars for our ships and many more.
2.The Marines ( heck those bastards actually ) will face the consequences.


And at last, please note it down, this(Italian Attitude) was the primary reason why France will be supplying us fighter jets.

 

[SrNair]

Well it's time to come to a deal and release those seamen ! No amount of jail time is going to bring back the fishermen. India should try to not make it an ego issue since they have already spent a good amount of time behind bars and try to negotiate a settlement.

Will you agree for any such measures if one of that victims was your own close relative ?

On topic :Marines did that for the security of the ship, evn though it was a mistake.It was the Italian politicians that tried for a game with us .And it seems we have been given enough reply for it .Exploit maximum favours from Italy and allow them to go .

Well well man why you r bringing islamic law of KSA atleast that law gave option to take blood money or just ask for punishment it is not binding to take blood money it depends on person atleast there is a gain


But i tell u neither u nor govt of india and supreme court do anything

Before criticise read ur not ksa but if u think u better proove it by hanging them i assure u it never gona happen less talk abd proove

We have already did whatever we want .
We know it was not intentional but a mistake from marines .But Italian politicians tried for a game and we replied in a way that they couldnt even imagine.

Well unfortunately Americans don't feel any kinship for "whites". Referring a person or a group by skin color is being racist. You guys might want to shove that racism up your *** and stop talking like a primary school kid. What is important is a way of the situation.



Oh. please. Rule of law my ***. If you guys had such high standards and respect for the law, the corruption levels wouldn't have been that high. Oh while we are at it, pray tell me how many of your standing senators have serious charges against them? I am sure its beyond your fingertips. So don't bother answering.



Rule of law's sole purpose is to serve as a deterrent. My point is, the purpose has been served. I am sure Italy wants her marines back and doubly sure India might want to get something done by the Italians - from a strategic point of view.

Time is upon both to come to the table !

You can call with a term called "lobbying" in US .In here that lobbying is 'corrruption' .I hope you can understand
Dont try to teach us .
This is the maximum Italy can do for now or in future.In earlier decades foreign people killed Indians and got away with that ,but situation is very different .And for us this is just a start . .A beginning of the dawn as a rising power.
That is where the People Republic of China become a rival and healthy competitor at the same time .We will also follow their path .If something like this was happened in China .Marines wouldnt have seen light for decades and Italy cant even mention about this incident