India is no longer seen as enemy: Ayaz Amir

[Nirvana]

One can never befriend a cobra. Indians are deceivers and becoming friends with India would only be detrimental to Pakistan.

No one is talking about being a friendly nation here !! Just settle the matter peacefully W/O any change in territory and learn to tolerate each other and co-exist

 

[RazPaK]

Why do you blindly trust what ever Zaid hamid says ????

I don't follow Zaid Hamid. All I know is he gives Indians nightmares.

 

[harpoon]

One can never befriend a cobra. Indians are deceivers and becoming friends with India would only be detrimental to Pakistan.

We don't want to be your friends either. We just want peace.

 

[RazPaK]

No one is talking about being a friendly nation here !! Just settle the matter peacefully W/O any change in territory and learn to tolerate each other and co-exist

Independence for Kashmir is the only step to make peace.

 

[Alchemy]

This is such a nice thread where you can talk about India and Pak coming closer, friendship etc ,,, but couple of guys like Razpak can take it to a level where we have to end up bashing each others

 

[R0H1T]

btw you haven't translated that urdu part

Google translate sucks

Sarfarosh wish 

In our heart's desire is Sarfarosh 
It is hard to see killer bazuyy 

Why else would a conversation 
I can see that the chip is in your community 

A martyr in your country and the nation above the scattering 
Your courage is now crch The Forum 

In our heart's desire is Sarfarosh 
It is hard to see killer bazuyy 

Time will tell let the sky tjhy 
Now tell us what is in our hearts 

Khynj has done everything expected to kill 
In today's rendezvous kucyh aasqun killer 

In our heart's desire is Sarfarosh 
It is hard to see killer bazuyy 

To waylay the enemy's weapons 
And we are ready to sew your way 

Holly will play home and fall in blood is difficult 
In our heart's desire is Sarfarosh 

Do not cut with a sword in hand Madness 
Those who head up lilka not swerve from the 

And the flame will be ignited in our hearts 
In our heart's desire is Sarfarosh 

We stepped from the house to shroud his head bandh 
Get to know on hand, and took this step 

Where we could stay away from the destination point is in}} 
In our heart's desire is Sarfarosh 

The body is also the body's blood obsession in 
What's in a fight with storms off the boat 

In our heart's desire is Sarfarosh 
It is hard to see killer bazuyy

 

[RazPaK]

Let kashmir remain with India itself

Let Kashmiris decide their own destiny instead of oppressing them.

 

[harpoon]

Let Kashmiris decide their own destiny instead of oppressing them.

You realize that Kashmiris also include Hindu Pandits and Buddhists in ladak.

 

[Alchemy]

Let Kashmiris decide their own destiny instead of oppressing them.

Get real man , All that you speak seems to be from a speech from some political rally ... i guess you have heard those neta log deliver these kind of speeches too much ... There is as much freedom on our side as much as there is on your side .

 

[Alchemy]

You realize that Kashmiris also include Hindu Pandits and Buddhists in ladak.

Rightly said , but today the Muslims of our side of the border too want just peace and harmony and not dont want any external influence as in earlier cases

 

[navtrek]

No longer an enemy?
Forgot so soon:
- who provides weapons to Pakistani Taliban
- who supports Balochistan movement from Afghanistan
- IAF helicopter violated in G.B
- Samjhota Express Bombings.
- Took Siachin/ J&K
- Has stationed some 700,000 soldiers in Kashmir
- forces France, U.S, Russia to embargo defence deals
- IAF purchasing 126+ Rafales, upgrading M2K, MIG-29, Jaguar for Billions of dollars
- Just recently tested an ICBM

India is seen as a never ending enemy...
Pakistan always tries to go for peace i.e Siachin/Kashmir solution, Trade, less troops at the border, IPL, Giving india as a Most favoured nation award, Pakistani actors/actresses/singers improving image in Bollwood, freeing prisoners who were fishermen, terrorists, etc. Despite of all this, India has done nothing in return to move forward.

You cant really afford to be India's enemy. Moreover we don't see Pakistan as our rival. Those days are over now we want to become a developed country become a progressive nation.

"ECONOMY & TRADE" with greater roles in International institutions like UN and UNSC these are our new priorities. We want to move beyond south Asia be a Super power not in-terms of arms & military muscle but through Culture, Values and Spirituality.

Develop a vibrant economy, Alleviate poverty make health care affordable to each and everyone.

In simple follow the Chinese models of development with democracy being the only difference.

 

[third eye]

Indo Pak relations has traditionally been a case of a few whose thoughts and actions have hijacked the rest.

Even now it will take just one ' non state actor' to undo things & bring us back to brinkmanship.

What needs to be done is to control these fringe elements on both sides who have their own agendas and constituencies to pander to, they have the max potential to derail things.

As regards the subject, I do not expect things to change much. The ' Rozi - Roti" of too many is linked to continued animosity.

 

[Sunnny]

No peace with India. No peace with murderers.

keep crying your govt dont agree with you
they are even ready to open trade route to a-stan from karachi and its already opened ..

 

[harpoon]

As regards the subject, I do not expect things to change much. The ' Rozi - Roti" of too many is linked to continued animosity.

In Pakistan, may be..but who in India?

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Indo Pak relations has traditionally been a case of a few whose thoughts and actions have hijacked the rest.

Even now it will take just one ' non state actor' to undo things & bring us back to brinkmanship.

What needs to be done is to control these fringe elements on both sides who have their own agendas and constituencies to pander to, they have the max potential to derail things.

As regards the subject, I do not expect things to change much. The ' Rozi - Roti" of too many is linked to continued animosity.

In such a hostile relationship, false flag attacks are too easy to carry out. Because both sides are so willing to blame the other.

Just drop something vaguely suspicious at the scene of an attack and you have instant chaos.

Normalizing the bilateral relationship will go a long way to safeguard against such events being blown out of proportion.