India is just like Pakistan, say reality show contestants (from Pakistan)

[SpArK]

yaar i say let them be hell bent on saying that they are not same as us,the way they are behaving and being indignant,they might have come from some alien planet..

Never seen so indignation before....

He has only said that identity has changed from India to Pakistan around the time of 1947.

I am trying to explain that the newer identity land was only few days old when created and both were considered as 1 before partitioning.
Its not like that the people has moved to a separate nation which existed centuries before but infact the same land which was divided a few days before they moved.

 

[desiman]

We are the same, but our point of views are so different that no longer we can agree on anything. Our ego's and thirst to hurt each other has now overshadowed everything else. There is no major difference in how we look, live, interact with our families and friends but the big difference is in our hearts which probably will never be the same. I like such threads but unfortunately all of them get derailed into the usual fight club.

 

[mehru]

So you are probably a Muhajir, because it's only muhajirs who have a loyalty to india.

I will ask you to take back this remark. It's very insulting to Urdu speaking people. They are as much Pakistani as you are.
I wish i could ban you for saying this but i leave it to mods.

 

[Jackdaws]

I will ask you to take back this remark. It's very insulting to Urdu speaking people. They are as much Pakistani as you are.
I wish i could ban you for saying this but i leave it to mods.

Good thing there is no such term for Hindus/Sikhs who came to India from what is now Pakistan.

 

[MilesTogo]

Strange thing is that Old Iranian and Sanskrit are sister languages and come from the same parent. This branch is known as Indo-Iranian.

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

Story proven to be false.

Didn't find any news report to suggest that its false ,either on the internet or on this thread

http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/56961-pakistanis-pose-indians-after-n-y-bomb-scare-11.html

So ,i though it"d be good to ask you for it.

Thanks in advance.

So you are probably a Muhajir, because it's only muhajirs who have a loyalty to india.

Even AQ Khan is a Muhajir then,he was born in Bhopal.
Do you wish/dare to question his loyalty?

ontopic
I think the answer is no,for ex: even the educated elite here on this forum are way too skewed than Indians,except for some outliers of course.


PS:This discussion is incomplete without Windjammer and Omar1984.
So i took the honor of inviting them.

Carry on guys!

 

[Areesh]

Then why does your esteemed leader, the "torchbearer" of Muhajirs claim that the "Division of the Subcontinent was the biggest blunder in the history of Mankind"? Don't believe me, well here you go.
YouTube - Partition of India a Blunder - Altaf Hussain.

Looks like some Muhajir here has some aversion for the leader of Muhajirs.

And why don't you ask this torch bearer of Mohajir that why he left the mohajir politics and is now his party is called Muthida Qaumi movement instead of Mohajir Qaumi Movement?

Because he also realized that this Mohajir politics isn't going to pay for long.

Anyways whatever he said isn't of much worth because his own personality is full of contradictions and allegations. He better clear himself from allegation like murder etc etc instead of giving his opinion about partition.

 

[Bang Galore]

Read this article this morning & considered briefly whether to post it here. Thought that we would get what we have now on this thread.

Ejaz bhai, bus kar yaar!

While i realise that you made no claims, I am tired of this similarity comparisons. You are my bhai as is every one who holds the Indian flag dear, no matter his religion or from where in India he traces his origin to. That's about it! That's where my brotherhood ends! We are 1.2 billion, i think that's enough.

When i first came to this forum, it was primarily in search of the other; the Pakistani equivalent of me. Someone not quite same but similar, someone who held different political views but similar social views. I have sadly come to the conclusion that the creature, with a few exceptions does not exist and even if it does, chooses not to make an appearance on this forum. I no longer think that i can fathom what goes on in their heads simply because i just don't see the world through the religious prism that most of them insist on seeing. I am simply stunned as to how religion affects every part of their life & dominates their thinking. I mean this as no particular criticism and though that is not the life I would choose, I respect their right to do so. However this obsession with a particular viewpoint & their refusal to look at the world through any other prism makes any similarity with Indians very superficial.

We may have been physically separated as nations only since the last 63 years but we are now mentally separated by a few 100 years and that gap only seems to widen with each passing year. Whatever similarities that existed are fast disappearing. We have different destinations in mind for ourselves and there is simply no point in deluding ourselves about our so called commonness.

 

[Areesh]

Sometimes it really hits me...One man who in his own personal life is more Christian than a Muslim,decides that there should be a separate Muslim state in the region and triggers one of the greatest exodus in history forcing millions of people to leave their home and property and life,irrespective of whether they actually wanted it or not.........

And it won't be wrong if someone hits you on your as* for first degrading a national hero of a nation and two for giving a comment on someone's religion and personal beliefs.

 

[mehru]

@ topic
Yes there are certain similarities and differences as well. We should appreciate both similarities and differences. No point in saying that we are totally different or totally similar. We do share a lot of things. No point in denying this.

 

[desiman]

So you are probably a Muhajir, because it's only muhajirs who have a loyalty to india.

its so sad that even after more than 60 years of Independence such tags exist in your system. No wonder Pakistan is going through so much turmoil when some of your very own people are branded as outsiders. Truly sad.

 

[MilesTogo]

Urdu is better compatible to a Devnagari script as proposed by the author of article below.

Chowk: Books Arts & Culture: Story of Hindustani II

 

[justanobserver]

Read this article this morning & considered briefly whether to post it here. Thought that we would get what we have now on this thread.

Ejaz bhai, bus kar yaar!

While i realise that you made no claims, I am tired of this similarity comparisons. You are my bhai as is every one who holds the Indian flag dear, no matter his religion or from where in India he traces his origin to. That's about it! That's where my brotherhood ends! We are 1.2 billion, i think that's enough.

When i first came to this forum, it was primarily in search of the other; the Pakistani equivalent of me. Someone not quite same but similar, someone who held different political views but similar social views. I have sadly come to the conclusion that the creature, with a few exceptions does not exist and even if it does, chooses not to make an appearance on this forum. I no longer think that i can fathom what goes on in their heads simply because i just don't see the world through the religious prism that most of them insist on seeing. I am simply stunned as to how religion affects every part of their life & dominates their thinking. I mean this as no particular criticism and though that is not the life I would choose, I respect their right to do so. However this obsession with a particular viewpoint & their refusal to look at the world through any other prism makes any similarity with Indians very superficial.

We may have been physically separated as nations only since the last 63 years but we are now mentally separated by a few 100 years and that gap only seems to widen with each passing year. Whatever similarities that existed are fast disappearing. We have different destinations in mind for ourselves and there is simply no point in deluding ourselves about our so called commonness.

Brilliant post !

 

[Kinetic]

I don't understand why you are trying soo hard to prove us to be the same as you?

Punjabis are like 3% of the indian population and sindhis are proabably not even 1% of your population

even if we're ethnically the same as you, most young Pakistani don't consider themselves to be the same as Indians, because we only know Pakistan.

And who cares about History? Why is history going to help us today? history is history.

why are forcing your opinion onto us? dude, seriously, it's not like i'm going to consider my self the same as non-Punjabis of India. i'm never going to see the non-Punjabis of India as my own people.

so why are you wasting your time arguing?

Is it too difficult for you to understand simple English? Go through the posts again.

And pls stop shouting like 'we are totally different', 'we are totally different' again and again. no one is claiming you as Indians. I don't know why some Pakistanis have such identity crisis while general people of Maldives, Nepal, BD, SL and many other nations doesn't rise such questions, though we have someway similar ethnicity, culture and heritage.

 

[Areesh]

its so sad that even after more than 60 years of Independence such tags exist in your system. No wonder Pakistan is going through so much turmoil when some of your very own people are branded as outsiders. Truly sad.

Nothing such exists in the system. If it does than Musharraf won't be the COAS of Pakistan. It is just the personal views of a newbie.