India is Isolated on its rants against Pakistan

[graphican]

ISLAMABAD: Like the post-Uri attack lies of India about Pakistan, the hollowness of New Delhi’s propaganda of getting Islamabad “isolated” has become a joke, even for many Indians.

While the whole world witnessed the interactions of Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif on the sidelines of UN General Assembly session and heard what the world leaders said about Pakistan, these facts have even been shared by some Indians on the social media mocking the Modi government claims.

Sanjiv Bhatt is a former Indian Police Service officer from Gujarat. He is known for his role in filing an affidavit in the Supreme Court of India against the Narendra Modi when he was Chief Minister of the Government of Gujarat. Bhatt had claimed to have attended a meeting, during which Modi had allegedly asked top police officials to let Hindus vent out their anger against the Muslims.

Through his tweet, Bhatt shared his facebook comment on how India “isolated” Pakistan. He wrote:

“1. Russian forces arrive in Pakistan to hold joint military drills snubbing India.

2. Indonesia offers Pakistan defence equipment.

3. Iran wants to be a part of CPEC and link Chabahar port with it built on Indian money.

4. China says it supports Islamabad's stance on Kashmir.

5. OIC says it supports Pakistan's stance on Kashmir.

6. Turkey sending fact finding mission to Kashmir on Pakistan demand.

7. Nepal wants to boost bilateral relations with Pakistan.

8. USA has refrained from naming Pakistan for the Uri Attack.

And our government wants us to believe that Pakistan has been internationally isolated.”

According to Pakistani official source, “Had Goebbels (who was propaganda minister in Nazi Germany) been alive, he would have felt proud seeing the limitless vitriolic and concocted propaganda of BJP-led Indian government against Pakistan. He would have opted to be disciple of Arnab Goswami (Indian journalist) and his likes in Indian propaganda industry.”

As reflected in Sanjiv Bhatt comments, India shamelessly claimed and tried to mislead the world that Russians have called off the joint military exercise with Pakistan. In reality, the Russians landed in Pakistan on Friday for first ever military exercise.

After the Uri attack, Chinese PM Li Keqiang in most unequivocal terms and without mincing words said that Beijing attaches great importance to Islamabad’s position on the Kashmir issue, and "China is standing by Pakistan and will continue to raise their voice in its support at every forum".

Iranian President Hassan Rouhani in his meeting with Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif on the sidelines of the UNGA on Wednesday last expressed a desire to be part of the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC). Rouhani said Iran considers Pakistan’s economic development as its own development and added that Pakistan's security is the security of Iran.

Before Prime Minister Muhammad Nawaz Sharif’s address to the UNGA, members of the OIC Organization of the Islamic Cooperation’s Contact Group on Kashmir reaffirmed their solidarity with the valiant Kashmiri people and demanded an end to the repression in Indian-occupied part of the disputed state.

Arab world and Turkey also called upon India to implement the UN Security Council’s resolutions on Jammu and Kashmir. Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif also met top leadership of Britain, Japan and other countries.

USA has unambiguously appreciated Pakistan's performance in Zarb-e-Azb and stated that US wants to remain in constructive relationship and would continue with Strategic Dialogue.

The US administration not only avoided endorsing Indian allegations against Pakistan following Uri attack but to New Delhi’s dismay the State Department spokesman has categorically stated and distanced from India’s effort to stir an International controversy on Balochistan. The state department spokesman said, "The US government respects the unity and territorial integrity of Pakistan, and we do not support independence for Balochistan.”

On Friday, British Army Chief Gen Nick Carter while addressing Pakistani community at Manchester, stated, "there is a strong relationship between Pakistan and UK forces, both are at one page against terrorism. I am one of the admirers of COAS Gen Raheel Sharif and I appreciate his leadership."

Responding to Indian propaganda against Pakistan, a source suggested India, “Don't Build Castles in the Air.”

Regarding Indian allegations of Pakistan’s involvement in the Uri attack, now India herself has started admitting that what was said within hours of the attack was factually wrong. Not only India’s DGMO was proved wrong but the New Delhi’s mantra -- “India now has undeniable evidence against Pakistan” -- has evaporated in the air.

About these Indian lies, a joke has been shared in Pakistan through the social media about the “undeniable evidence” against Pakistan. It reads as:

“Terrorists who attacked Army Camp at Urri had indeed come from Pakistan. Following was recovered from their dead bodies: 1. A signed NOC from DG ISI stating "I hereby grant authorization of attacking Uri to these fine gentlemen. Indian Army to please facilitate entry etc; 2. An autographed handkerchief presented by Pak Army COAS stating "Best Wishes for Uri"; 3. Besides Pakistani CNIC and passport a signed letter by DG NADRA offering full responsibility for any missing documents; 4. A receipt bill from Butt Karahi, Gawalmandi, Lahore depicting 2 kilo DESI KUKKAR KARAHI and 8 NAAN consumed 2 days before the attack; 5. Dhobi and Canteen bills from Headquarters ISI Islamabad; 6. Naswar box containing engraved message -- ‘With love from Bannu’.”

This social media joke about Indian baseless propaganda said that on the basis of these “incriminating evidence”, the Pakistani establishment is in serious trouble and Pakistan is likely to face international isolation.

By Ansar Abbasi
Reference: https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/152735-How-Modis-India-becomes-a-joke-at-home-and-abroad


Now who stands with India

• Bangladesh
• Afghanistan
• And its imaginations

reality check - India is isolated on its mindless rants. No country in the world gives importance to what Modi says anymore - Infect, India is alone and isolated.

 

[Kabira]

Now who stands with India

• Bangladesh
• Afghanistan

 

[Scrapper]

If country mean government than, yes Awami League Government of Bangladesh is supporting Modi Government for its own selfish reasons. But as far as the people are concerned, Bangladeshi People are always beside the people of Kashmir and against the Indian government. In fact, Bangladeshi people themselves are suffering big time under autocratic Awami government with direct support from India, RAW has infiltrated every sector of Bangladesh. They are systematically destroying infrastructure of Bangladesh, so that BD become dependent on India forever. BD people are big time victims of Indian aggression for the last 7 years, and it started with Awami League coming to power.

 

[P@nThEr]

oh man we are isolated..

 

[Armoured Division]

Sanjeev Bhat

 

[P@nThEr]

Sanjeev Bhat

HA HA HA
Isn't that the Congi stooge who had filed affidavit against Modi for Gujrat riot?lol
All Congi leaders are so desperate for such articles to entertain Pakistanis..

 

[graphican]

If country mean government than, yes Awami League Government of Bangladesh is supporting Modi Government for its own selfish reasons. But as far as the people are concerned, Bangladeshi People are always beside the people of Kashmir and against the Indian government. In fact, Bangladeshi people themselves are suffering big time under autocratic Awami government with direct support from India, RAW has infiltrated every sector of Bangladesh. They are systematically destroying infrastructure of Bangladesh, so that BD become dependent on India forever. BD people are big time victims of Indian aggression for the last 7 years, and it started with Awami League coming to power.

I hope what you're saying is true but what we saw in Bangladesh was total silence on the hanging of Jamat Leaders, and Hasina was only hanging them to satisfy herself. After Bangladesh became independent, Pakistan has actually no stakes to fry there. We are Muslims, been together and we should rather share a bond of friendship with each other. But I hardly get any positive vibes from the Government of Bangladesh. There are Bangladeshis like you here, but what is use of your stance when it is not reflected from the country as a whole.

I mean no disrespect or disregard to your sentiments and I am just sharing what I get on the ground.

Sanjeev Bhat

He has quoted facts. Apart from having a self-satisfying laugh, have you got anything which could prove him wrong and win yourself a case?

 

[war&peace]

“1. Russian forces arrive in Pakistan to hold joint military drills snubbing India.

2. Indonesia offers Pakistan defence equipment.

3. Iran wants to be a part of CPEC and link Chabahar port with it built on Indian money.

4. China says it supports Islamabad's stance on Kashmir.

5. OIC says it supports Pakistan's stance on Kashmir.

6. Turkey sending fact finding mission to Kashmir on Pakistan demand.

7. Nepal wants to boost bilateral relations with Pakistan.

8. USA has refrained from naming Pakistan for the Uri Attack.

Pakistan is isolated, Pakistan is isolated...why don't you accept that

 

[T-Rex]

oh man we are isolated..

No you're not, your minions in BD are with you.

 

[Maddd]

India, along with Afghanistan and Bangladesh and US,when ever the "Do more" brigade comes out.

 

[sbh02]

Shashi Tharoor: Despite Modi Rhetoric, Isolating Pakistan Not Easy

In the wake of the Uri assault that took the lives of 18 Indian jawans, Indian commentators have been in understandable outrage, suggesting various rather dramatic courses of action against Pakistan — ranging from “surgical strikes” against terrorist training camps in Azad Kashmir or even at Muridke near Lahore, to the abrogation of the Indus Waters Treaty to bring the Pakistani economy to its knees.

Yet, the unpalatable truth is this: India has a number of options — diplomatic, economic and military — but most of the feasible ones have been tried before, notably in the aftermath of the major terrorist attack on 26 November 2008 in Mumbai.

The ones that have not been tried — notably reprisals on terrorist bases in Pakistan —are fraught with major risks, notably of escalation, with unpredictable consequences. There are few realistic and effective options for retaliation left.

Yet, doing nothing is clearly not an option. The idea that malign men in Pakistan can, with impunity, strike Indian targets at will every few months, exchanging the lives of a few terrorist dupes for the sadistic pleasure of sneering, as India helplessly flails around in seething impotence at its inability to strike back, is galling to most Indians — above all to the hyper-nationalist government of Prime Minister Narendra Modi, which had campaigned on a rhetoric of robust response to Pakistani provocation.

Clearly, India must find a way of raising the costs of such behaviour for Pakistan, in the hope of discouraging Islamabad from doing it again.

Isolating Pakistan Globally Would be Difficult

In his speech at the BJP conclave in Kozhikode last night, the PM threatened to isolate Pakistan in the world as a state that exports terror. This is precisely what New Delhi did when the killers from Pakistan took 166 lives in Mumbai on 26/11 eight years ago, though the isolation (and accompanying diplomatic pressure on Islamabad) inevitably wore off after a few years.

Pakistan is manifestly unwilling or unable to control the terrorism emanating from its own territory, and so it is relatively easy to point fingers at it.

But ‘isolation’ is a bigger challenge for New Delhi this time: Firstly, because Uri involved fewer victims than Mumbai; secondly, because they were soldiers, not civilians as in 26/11; and thirdly, because various countries have bilateral reasons not to isolate Pakistan.

The US needs Pakistan because of Afghanistan, and China has major strategic interests there, especially a $46 billion economic corridor that is China’s single biggest overseas development project. As long as major powers choose to stay engaged with Pakistan, overlooking its misbehaviour, diplomatic isolation will have its limitations as a policy.

Surgical Strikes Not a Feasible Option

‘Surgical’ airstrikes seem superficially attractive, not least because, in Eliot Cohen’s marvellous formulation, they are an option rather like modern courtship — they offer the possibility of gratification without commitment. You fly from a great height, drop a few bombs and come back home, without taking the issue any further, leaving your victims to contemplate the smoking ruins.

What about Pakistani retaliation, which is sure to be swift and perhaps disproportionate? At what point do you stop the punishment that will inevitably provoke more reprisals? And what about the international opprobrium you will incur for violating the LoC or worse, breaching an international frontier?

Military Adventurism Fraught with Economic Cost

Above all, what about the ancillary risks of further escalation? India’s overriding priority is economic development, which requires foreign investment and a peaceful climate for economic growth. How does that square with the military adventurism being advocated by our armchair generals? Investors, naturally, do not like to invest in war zones. Can we afford to drive away the funds without which we cannot pull our people out of poverty?

Revisiting the 1960 Indus Waters Treaty
The possibility of India revisiting the Indus Waters Treaty signed with Pakistan in 1960 has also aroused some strategists, and even MEA spokesperson Vikas Swarup, who said pointedly that “any cooperative arrangement requires goodwill and mutual trust on both sides”.

Under the treaty, India has control over three eastern rivers — Beas, Ravi and Sutlej —and Pakistan the western rivers of the Chenab and Jhelum. Swarup darkly hinted that it was in jeopardy: “For any such treaty to work, it is important there must be mutual trust and cooperation. It cannot be a one-sided affair.”

But the treaty under which the waters of the Indus and its five tributaries are distributed between the two countries is not purely a bilateral affair; it was brokered by the World Bank, whose involvement will be automatically triggered if India unilaterally abrogates it.

Nor can it be done like turning off a tap; various measures would be required to ensure that Indian cities do not get flooded with the water that is no longer flowing to Pakistan.

Will Lose Moral Authority by Scrapping the Indus Treaty
And then, we would set a precedent and we would be loath to see China follow on the Brahmaputra, where it is we who are downstream. We have long been a model state in our respect for international law, and our adherence to morality in foreign policy, even offering humanitarian assistance to Pakistan after earthquakes and floods.

Starving people by cutting off their water would be profoundly unworthy of us. This is why the treaty has, as Omar Abdullah recently pointed out, survived four wars and a unanimous resolution of the Jammu and Kashmir Assembly calling for its scrapping.

Under the existing Treaty provisions, however, India is entitled to make use of the waters of the western rivers for irrigation, storage, and even for producing electricity, in a “non-consumptive” manner, through “run-of-the-river” projects that do not reduce the ultimate flow to Pakistan.

Oddly enough, we have never taken advantage of these provisions, which are exactly what the Chinese say they are doing with their frenetic dam building on the upper reaches of the Brahmaputra, upstream from India. If we were simply to do what we are allowed to under the Treaty — we are entitled to store up to 3.6 million acre feet on the western rivers — it would be a more effective signal to Pakistan than arch statements from the MEA.

Strengthening Our Security Framework
So what can we do? Using artillery to destroy Pakistani forward posts along the LoC, preferably the ones near Uri that must have facilitated the infiltration, is a low-risk option, though there will certainly be some retaliatory shelling, probably containable if we don’t overreact to it.

And, there is always the fantasy depicted in the Bollywood film Phantom — the targeted assassination of jihadist leaders by shadowy covert operatives, amid total deniability by India. This will make those who despatch terrorists think twice and even if they threaten retaliation, the strengthening of our protective police and intelligence capabilities is overdue, and should proceed on a priority basis.

Finally, we must demand accountability for the failure to strengthen the perimeter security of our defence installations after the Pathankot attack in January. The report of the Committee headed by former Army Vice Chief Lt Gen Philip Campose has been lying with the Defence Ministry since March, but no action has been taken on its recommendations. This is criminal negligence, and heads should roll for it.

https://www.thequint.com/uri-attack...hikode-uri-terror-attack-kashmir-mumbai-26-11

Modi has discovered there are no plans to punish Pakistan

'NSA Doval and the PM are known to admire Israel's tough response to cross-border terrorism.'
'However, New Delhi's situation is far more complex than Tel Aviv's, which enjoys military superiority over all its neighbours,' says Ajai Shukla.

The Indian Army has served notice to Pakistan, reserving the right to respond to the terrorist strike on an army camp in Jammu & Kashmir on Sunday, in which the casualty count increased to 18 with the death of a wounded soldier in hospital on Monday. In addition, 29 soldiers were injured.

On Monday, the army’s Director General of Military Operations Lieutenant General Ranbir Singh, warned: 'The Indian Army has displayed considerable restraint while handling the terrorist situation both along the Line of Control and in the hinterland. However, we have the desired capability to respond to such blatant acts of aggression and violence as deemed appropriate by us. We reserve the right to respond to any act of the adversary at a time and place of own choosing.'

On Sunday, after a terrorist fidayeen squad struck an army camp near Uri, five km from the Line of Control, Prime Minister Narendra Modi had promised: 'I assure the nation that those behind this despicable attack will not go unpunished.'

The army announced on Sunday that the attackers were from the Pakistan-based Jaish-e-Mohammed jihadi group. It now emerges that the Lashkar-e-Tayiba masterminded the strike, not the JeM.

After the PM and his security planners -- including Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar, National Security Advisor Ajit Doval, key Cabinet ministers, the army, navy and air force chiefs and the heads of intelligence agencies -- met on Monday to weigh revenge against the perpetrators of the attack, it became clear that Modi is short of retaliatory options.

The leaders could only agree on a diplomatic plan to expose Pakistan in international forums as a State that supports terrorism -- something that New Delhi has already been doing.

This, however, would fail to placate inflamed Indian opinion; with critics already asking on social media how diplomatically isolating Pakistan punishes those behind the Uri attack.

Essentially, the government's repeated promises to respond harshly to Pakistani provocation have exposed it to criticism if it acts moderately.

In November 2008, in the aftermath of the 26/11 Mumbai terror attack, the United Progressive Alliance government had ruled out a military response after the three service chiefs were unable to offer viable response options.

Eight years later, a new PM has discovered there are still no plans to adequately punish Pakistan for unacceptable provocations.

Scholars of South Asian security like Shashank Joshi and Walter Ladwig have earlier argued that any Indian plan that would adequately punish Pakistan would also cross the Red Line of Pakistan's nuclear threshold.

Top Indian planners, including NSA Doval and the PM himself, are known to admire Israel's tough response to cross-border terrorism. However, New Delhi's situation is far more complex than Tel Aviv's, which enjoys preponderant military superiority over all its neighbours.

In contrast, India faces a cross-border terrorism challenge from the Pakistani military, which Credit Suisse has ranked the 11th-most powerful in the world, which means Pakistan is capable of protecting its territory and airspace.

Further, Pakistan's nuclear arsenal is on level with India's.

For these reasons Doval, who is masterminding a tough response against a civilian uprising in Kashmir, is finding Pakistan rather a tougher nut to crack.

There is also a shortfall of military expertise at the top-most planning levels. With Doval and Foreign Secretary S Jaishankar having taken control of security and foreign policy, the army, navy and air force chiefs have -- like many of their predecessors -- found themselves on the sidelines in a subordinate role.

Even Defence Minister Parrikar is outside the inner coterie, causing him to spend an unusual amount of time nurturing a political constituency in Goa, where he was chief minister before moving to New Delhi.

In September, he has spent no more than a week in Delhi.

With the military and the defence ministry distanced from the planning loop, there are no clear contingency plans for retaliation.

True, the military has a list of targets in Pakistan, strategic as well as tactical, that can be struck. But there has been no inter-agency planning, where the ministries of external affairs, home, defence and the National Security Council have evaluated the strike options, the escalation dynamics caused by inevitable Pakistani retaliation, nuclear crisis management, and the diplomatic handling of the international community, to assuage fears of a full-blown conflagration between two nuclear armed States.

Already, planners are wrestling with the question of responding to the Uri attack without falling into the Pakistan trap of 'internationalising' the Kashmir dispute.

One option for the military is to activate the LoC, attacking Pakistani posts with artillery and mortars. The army can inflict disproportionate punishment on the Pakistan army. Yet, Indian soldiers will die and be wounded in Pakistani retaliation.

Meanwhile, India's security calculus in J&K will become more complicated, making internal security a larger problem. Similarly, air strikes on terrorist camps across the LoC, or across the international India-Pakistan boundary, would invite retaliation from Pakistan.

This could unleash an escalatory spiral that would take both sides towards war -- and the inevitable international pressure to de-escalate.

"Contingency plans for retaliation are made during peace, fine-tuned through an inter-agency process, and kept ready for use in a crisis. The Indian security establishment has failed to do that," says a former army commander.

http://www.rediff.com/news/column/m...-are-no-plans-to-punish-pakistan/20160920.htm

 

[NirmalKrish]

ISLAMABAD: Like the post-Uri attack lies of India about Pakistan, the hollowness of New Delhi’s propaganda of getting Islamabad “isolated” has become a joke, even for many Indians.

While the whole world witnessed the interactions of Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif on the sidelines of UN General Assembly session and heard what the world leaders said about Pakistan, these facts have even been shared by some Indians on the social media mocking the Modi government claims.

Sanjiv Bhatt is a former Indian Police Service officer from Gujarat. He is known for his role in filing an affidavit in the Supreme Court of India against the Narendra Modi when he was Chief Minister of the Government of Gujarat. Bhatt had claimed to have attended a meeting, during which Modi had allegedly asked top police officials to let Hindus vent out their anger against the Muslims.

Through his tweet, Bhatt shared his facebook comment on how India “isolated” Pakistan. He wrote:

“1. Russian forces arrive in Pakistan to hold joint military drills snubbing India.

2. Indonesia offers Pakistan defence equipment.

3. Iran wants to be a part of CPEC and link Chabahar port with it built on Indian money.

4. China says it supports Islamabad's stance on Kashmir.

5. OIC says it supports Pakistan's stance on Kashmir.

6. Turkey sending fact finding mission to Kashmir on Pakistan demand.

7. Nepal wants to boost bilateral relations with Pakistan.

8. USA has refrained from naming Pakistan for the Uri Attack.

And our government wants us to believe that Pakistan has been internationally isolated.”

According to Pakistani official source, “Had Goebbels (who was propaganda minister in Nazi Germany) been alive, he would have felt proud seeing the limitless vitriolic and concocted propaganda of BJP-led Indian government against Pakistan. He would have opted to be disciple of Arnab Goswami (Indian journalist) and his likes in Indian propaganda industry.”

As reflected in Sanjiv Bhatt comments, India shamelessly claimed and tried to mislead the world that Russians have called off the joint military exercise with Pakistan. In reality, the Russians landed in Pakistan on Friday for first ever military exercise.

After the Uri attack, Chinese PM Li Keqiang in most unequivocal terms and without mincing words said that Beijing attaches great importance to Islamabad’s position on the Kashmir issue, and "China is standing by Pakistan and will continue to raise their voice in its support at every forum".

Iranian President Hassan Rouhani in his meeting with Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif on the sidelines of the UNGA on Wednesday last expressed a desire to be part of the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC). Rouhani said Iran considers Pakistan’s economic development as its own development and added that Pakistan's security is the security of Iran.

Before Prime Minister Muhammad Nawaz Sharif’s address to the UNGA, members of the OIC Organization of the Islamic Cooperation’s Contact Group on Kashmir reaffirmed their solidarity with the valiant Kashmiri people and demanded an end to the repression in Indian-occupied part of the disputed state.

Arab world and Turkey also called upon India to implement the UN Security Council’s resolutions on Jammu and Kashmir. Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif also met top leadership of Britain, Japan and other countries.

USA has unambiguously appreciated Pakistan's performance in Zarb-e-Azb and stated that US wants to remain in constructive relationship and would continue with Strategic Dialogue.

The US administration not only avoided endorsing Indian allegations against Pakistan following Uri attack but to New Delhi’s dismay the State Department spokesman has categorically stated and distanced from India’s effort to stir an International controversy on Balochistan. The state department spokesman said, "The US government respects the unity and territorial integrity of Pakistan, and we do not support independence for Balochistan.”

On Friday, British Army Chief Gen Nick Carter while addressing Pakistani community at Manchester, stated, "there is a strong relationship between Pakistan and UK forces, both are at one page against terrorism. I am one of the admirers of COAS Gen Raheel Sharif and I appreciate his leadership."

Responding to Indian propaganda against Pakistan, a source suggested India, “Don't Build Castles in the Air.”

Regarding Indian allegations of Pakistan’s involvement in the Uri attack, now India herself has started admitting that what was said within hours of the attack was factually wrong. Not only India’s DGMO was proved wrong but the New Delhi’s mantra -- “India now has undeniable evidence against Pakistan” -- has evaporated in the air.

About these Indian lies, a joke has been shared in Pakistan through the social media about the “undeniable evidence” against Pakistan. It reads as:

“Terrorists who attacked Army Camp at Urri had indeed come from Pakistan. Following was recovered from their dead bodies: 1. A signed NOC from DG ISI stating "I hereby grant authorization of attacking Uri to these fine gentlemen. Indian Army to please facilitate entry etc; 2. An autographed handkerchief presented by Pak Army COAS stating "Best Wishes for Uri"; 3. Besides Pakistani CNIC and passport a signed letter by DG NADRA offering full responsibility for any missing documents; 4. A receipt bill from Butt Karahi, Gawalmandi, Lahore depicting 2 kilo DESI KUKKAR KARAHI and 8 NAAN consumed 2 days before the attack; 5. Dhobi and Canteen bills from Headquarters ISI Islamabad; 6. Naswar box containing engraved message -- ‘With love from Bannu’.”

This social media joke about Indian baseless propaganda said that on the basis of these “incriminating evidence”, the Pakistani establishment is in serious trouble and Pakistan is likely to face international isolation.

By Ansar Abbasi
Reference: https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/152735-How-Modis-India-becomes-a-joke-at-home-and-abroad


Now who stands with India

• Bangladesh
• Afghanistan
• And its imaginations

reality check - India is isolated on its mindless rants. No country in the world gives importance to what Modi says anymore - Infect, India is alone and isolated.

Hahahahhaa live in bubble!

 

[P@nThEr]

No you're not, your minions in BD are with you.

Do you go through ground realities except going through the articles of all Congress stooges!They are having their last breath.LOL
India is isolated from whom?
I don't see anyone supporting Kashmir voice in UN or any world leader had mentioned during speech..
Others are just giving "I don't care" like statements..I don't see any relevance of OIC..
We are so much isolated that we waiting to get sanctioned.
http://english.newstrack.com/european-union-economic-sanction

Shashi Tharoor: Despite Modi Rhetoric, Isolating Pakistan Not Easy

In the wake of the Uri assault that took the lives of 18 Indian jawans, Indian commentators have been in understandable outrage, suggesting various rather dramatic courses of action against Pakistan — ranging from “surgical strikes” against terrorist training camps in Azad Kashmir or even at Muridke near Lahore, to the abrogation of the Indus Waters Treaty to bring the Pakistani economy to its knees.

Yet, the unpalatable truth is this: India has a number of options — diplomatic, economic and military — but most of the feasible ones have been tried before, notably in the aftermath of the major terrorist attack on 26 November 2008 in Mumbai.

The ones that have not been tried — notably reprisals on terrorist bases in Pakistan —are fraught with major risks, notably of escalation, with unpredictable consequences. There are few realistic and effective options for retaliation left.

Yet, doing nothing is clearly not an option. The idea that malign men in Pakistan can, with impunity, strike Indian targets at will every few months, exchanging the lives of a few terrorist dupes for the sadistic pleasure of sneering, as India helplessly flails around in seething impotence at its inability to strike back, is galling to most Indians — above all to the hyper-nationalist government of Prime Minister Narendra Modi, which had campaigned on a rhetoric of robust response to Pakistani provocation.

Clearly, India must find a way of raising the costs of such behaviour for Pakistan, in the hope of discouraging Islamabad from doing it again.

Isolating Pakistan Globally Would be Difficult

In his speech at the BJP conclave in Kozhikode last night, the PM threatened to isolate Pakistan in the world as a state that exports terror. This is precisely what New Delhi did when the killers from Pakistan took 166 lives in Mumbai on 26/11 eight years ago, though the isolation (and accompanying diplomatic pressure on Islamabad) inevitably wore off after a few years.

Pakistan is manifestly unwilling or unable to control the terrorism emanating from its own territory, and so it is relatively easy to point fingers at it.

But ‘isolation’ is a bigger challenge for New Delhi this time: Firstly, because Uri involved fewer victims than Mumbai; secondly, because they were soldiers, not civilians as in 26/11; and thirdly, because various countries have bilateral reasons not to isolate Pakistan.

The US needs Pakistan because of Afghanistan, and China has major strategic interests there, especially a $46 billion economic corridor that is China’s single biggest overseas development project. As long as major powers choose to stay engaged with Pakistan, overlooking its misbehaviour, diplomatic isolation will have its limitations as a policy.

Surgical Strikes Not a Feasible Option

‘Surgical’ airstrikes seem superficially attractive, not least because, in Eliot Cohen’s marvellous formulation, they are an option rather like modern courtship — they offer the possibility of gratification without commitment. You fly from a great height, drop a few bombs and come back home, without taking the issue any further, leaving your victims to contemplate the smoking ruins.

What about Pakistani retaliation, which is sure to be swift and perhaps disproportionate? At what point do you stop the punishment that will inevitably provoke more reprisals? And what about the international opprobrium you will incur for violating the LoC or worse, breaching an international frontier?

Military Adventurism Fraught with Economic Cost

Above all, what about the ancillary risks of further escalation? India’s overriding priority is economic development, which requires foreign investment and a peaceful climate for economic growth. How does that square with the military adventurism being advocated by our armchair generals? Investors, naturally, do not like to invest in war zones. Can we afford to drive away the funds without which we cannot pull our people out of poverty?

Revisiting the 1960 Indus Waters Treaty
The possibility of India revisiting the Indus Waters Treaty signed with Pakistan in 1960 has also aroused some strategists, and even MEA spokesperson Vikas Swarup, who said pointedly that “any cooperative arrangement requires goodwill and mutual trust on both sides”.

Under the treaty, India has control over three eastern rivers — Beas, Ravi and Sutlej —and Pakistan the western rivers of the Chenab and Jhelum. Swarup darkly hinted that it was in jeopardy: “For any such treaty to work, it is important there must be mutual trust and cooperation. It cannot be a one-sided affair.”

But the treaty under which the waters of the Indus and its five tributaries are distributed between the two countries is not purely a bilateral affair; it was brokered by the World Bank, whose involvement will be automatically triggered if India unilaterally abrogates it.

Nor can it be done like turning off a tap; various measures would be required to ensure that Indian cities do not get flooded with the water that is no longer flowing to Pakistan.

Will Lose Moral Authority by Scrapping the Indus Treaty
And then, we would set a precedent and we would be loath to see China follow on the Brahmaputra, where it is we who are downstream. We have long been a model state in our respect for international law, and our adherence to morality in foreign policy, even offering humanitarian assistance to Pakistan after earthquakes and floods.

Starving people by cutting off their water would be profoundly unworthy of us. This is why the treaty has, as Omar Abdullah recently pointed out, survived four wars and a unanimous resolution of the Jammu and Kashmir Assembly calling for its scrapping.

Under the existing Treaty provisions, however, India is entitled to make use of the waters of the western rivers for irrigation, storage, and even for producing electricity, in a “non-consumptive” manner, through “run-of-the-river” projects that do not reduce the ultimate flow to Pakistan.

Oddly enough, we have never taken advantage of these provisions, which are exactly what the Chinese say they are doing with their frenetic dam building on the upper reaches of the Brahmaputra, upstream from India. If we were simply to do what we are allowed to under the Treaty — we are entitled to store up to 3.6 million acre feet on the western rivers — it would be a more effective signal to Pakistan than arch statements from the MEA.

Strengthening Our Security Framework
So what can we do? Using artillery to destroy Pakistani forward posts along the LoC, preferably the ones near Uri that must have facilitated the infiltration, is a low-risk option, though there will certainly be some retaliatory shelling, probably containable if we don’t overreact to it.

And, there is always the fantasy depicted in the Bollywood film Phantom — the targeted assassination of jihadist leaders by shadowy covert operatives, amid total deniability by India. This will make those who despatch terrorists think twice and even if they threaten retaliation, the strengthening of our protective police and intelligence capabilities is overdue, and should proceed on a priority basis.

Finally, we must demand accountability for the failure to strengthen the perimeter security of our defence installations after the Pathankot attack in January. The report of the Committee headed by former Army Vice Chief Lt Gen Philip Campose has been lying with the Defence Ministry since March, but no action has been taken on its recommendations. This is criminal negligence, and heads should roll for it.

https://www.thequint.com/uri-attack...hikode-uri-terror-attack-kashmir-mumbai-26-11

Modi has discovered there are no plans to punish Pakistan

'NSA Doval and the PM are known to admire Israel's tough response to cross-border terrorism.'
'However, New Delhi's situation is far more complex than Tel Aviv's, which enjoys military superiority over all its neighbours,' says Ajai Shukla.

The Indian Army has served notice to Pakistan, reserving the right to respond to the terrorist strike on an army camp in Jammu & Kashmir on Sunday, in which the casualty count increased to 18 with the death of a wounded soldier in hospital on Monday. In addition, 29 soldiers were injured.

On Monday, the army’s Director General of Military Operations Lieutenant General Ranbir Singh, warned: 'The Indian Army has displayed considerable restraint while handling the terrorist situation both along the Line of Control and in the hinterland. However, we have the desired capability to respond to such blatant acts of aggression and violence as deemed appropriate by us. We reserve the right to respond to any act of the adversary at a time and place of own choosing.'

On Sunday, after a terrorist fidayeen squad struck an army camp near Uri, five km from the Line of Control, Prime Minister Narendra Modi had promised: 'I assure the nation that those behind this despicable attack will not go unpunished.'

The army announced on Sunday that the attackers were from the Pakistan-based Jaish-e-Mohammed jihadi group. It now emerges that the Lashkar-e-Tayiba masterminded the strike, not the JeM.

After the PM and his security planners -- including Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar, National Security Advisor Ajit Doval, key Cabinet ministers, the army, navy and air force chiefs and the heads of intelligence agencies -- met on Monday to weigh revenge against the perpetrators of the attack, it became clear that Modi is short of retaliatory options.

The leaders could only agree on a diplomatic plan to expose Pakistan in international forums as a State that supports terrorism -- something that New Delhi has already been doing.

This, however, would fail to placate inflamed Indian opinion; with critics already asking on social media how diplomatically isolating Pakistan punishes those behind the Uri attack.

Essentially, the government's repeated promises to respond harshly to Pakistani provocation have exposed it to criticism if it acts moderately.

In November 2008, in the aftermath of the 26/11 Mumbai terror attack, the United Progressive Alliance government had ruled out a military response after the three service chiefs were unable to offer viable response options.

Eight years later, a new PM has discovered there are still no plans to adequately punish Pakistan for unacceptable provocations.

Scholars of South Asian security like Shashank Joshi and Walter Ladwig have earlier argued that any Indian plan that would adequately punish Pakistan would also cross the Red Line of Pakistan's nuclear threshold.

Top Indian planners, including NSA Doval and the PM himself, are known to admire Israel's tough response to cross-border terrorism. However, New Delhi's situation is far more complex than Tel Aviv's, which enjoys preponderant military superiority over all its neighbours.

In contrast, India faces a cross-border terrorism challenge from the Pakistani military, which Credit Suisse has ranked the 11th-most powerful in the world, which means Pakistan is capable of protecting its territory and airspace.

Further, Pakistan's nuclear arsenal is on level with India's.

For these reasons Doval, who is masterminding a tough response against a civilian uprising in Kashmir, is finding Pakistan rather a tougher nut to crack.

There is also a shortfall of military expertise at the top-most planning levels. With Doval and Foreign Secretary S Jaishankar having taken control of security and foreign policy, the army, navy and air force chiefs have -- like many of their predecessors -- found themselves on the sidelines in a subordinate role.

Even Defence Minister Parrikar is outside the inner coterie, causing him to spend an unusual amount of time nurturing a political constituency in Goa, where he was chief minister before moving to New Delhi.

In September, he has spent no more than a week in Delhi.

With the military and the defence ministry distanced from the planning loop, there are no clear contingency plans for retaliation.

True, the military has a list of targets in Pakistan, strategic as well as tactical, that can be struck. But there has been no inter-agency planning, where the ministries of external affairs, home, defence and the National Security Council have evaluated the strike options, the escalation dynamics caused by inevitable Pakistani retaliation, nuclear crisis management, and the diplomatic handling of the international community, to assuage fears of a full-blown conflagration between two nuclear armed States.

Already, planners are wrestling with the question of responding to the Uri attack without falling into the Pakistan trap of 'internationalising' the Kashmir dispute.

One option for the military is to activate the LoC, attacking Pakistani posts with artillery and mortars. The army can inflict disproportionate punishment on the Pakistan army. Yet, Indian soldiers will die and be wounded in Pakistani retaliation.

Meanwhile, India's security calculus in J&K will become more complicated, making internal security a larger problem. Similarly, air strikes on terrorist camps across the LoC, or across the international India-Pakistan boundary, would invite retaliation from Pakistan.

This could unleash an escalatory spiral that would take both sides towards war -- and the inevitable international pressure to de-escalate.

"Contingency plans for retaliation are made during peace, fine-tuned through an inter-agency process, and kept ready for use in a crisis. The Indian security establishment has failed to do that," says a former army commander.

http://www.rediff.com/news/column/m...-are-no-plans-to-punish-pakistan/20160920.htm

 

[Z-A-K]

This is what india is best at

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1167896486608941

 

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

HA HA HA
Isn't that the Congi stooge who had filed affidavit against Modi for Gujrat riot?lol
All Congi leaders are so desperate for such articles to entertain Pakistanis..

he is not talking without any evidence. congress. he had given examples or evidence of modi failures. but be happy and remain in indian media world.