India is getting ready to fight China and Pakistan simultaneously: Indian Army chief

[Communist]

i laugh, when i sometimes hear, Pakistan is a sovereign country.

This kind of statement pisses me ....

 

[amarnath]

Yes, China will do whatever she feels like. China is not concerned with whether China's enemy will respect or not. China's enemy will malign the image of China, even if China invents anything. That is the task of enemy. That is why the enemy is an enemy.

Coming to the topic, I would like to hear from you, why do you want war? China has repeatedly said, China will follow peaceful negotiation and talks, yet you want to kill Chinese people by waging a war.

Why such war mongering statements?

My brother grey has put it rightly:

Wow wow wow, relax dude, now where the hell did you figure out That India is going to wage a war against china, Our army chief said that the army will defend the country from the agression from both pakistan and china, see we had incidents like chinese soldiers crossing over LAC and writing china on stones, Chasing away the people near LAC saying its Chinese land, getting your helicopters violating the airspace, we consider that as your agression and Our army has to do everything to stop this from happening again, so that does not mean that we rage a war, he said India can take on pakistan and china at once when there is a war, he never said India will start a war, so cool down

 

[amarnath]

So, stop saying Indians don't want to copy, you simply failed to copy

due to your backwardation.

dont u understand english, I never said India do not want to copy, but only said that we are not good at it....

 

[DesiGuy]

Yes, China will do whatever she feels like. China is not concerned with whether China's enemy will respect or not. China's enemy will malign the image of China, even if China invents anything. That is the task of enemy. That is why the enemy is an enemy.




yea,yea china will do, whatever she feels.

haha, china is not concerned.

So u r saying china will keep developing without respect.

china enemies, meaning USA, India, Russia. i am sure china is concerned about it's enemies.

it just shows your way as a typical chiness or Pakistanis who says whatever their country is doing is right. all other are wrong.

 

[DesiGuy]

This kind of statement pisses me ....

now figure it out, why i said that.

 

[Gasht]

that only shows that we are not good at copying unlike you

but only said that we are not good at it...

it means you guys don't know Sh....

inorder for an engineer to be worth his/her gold. he/she would have the capacity to Copy off simple 50's era equipment


even the north koreans can knock-off soviet weapons

 

[grey boy 2]

So does it mean, India doesn't have rifles now?

at least they buy some and some they make on their their own.

now don't again go pointing India faults.

look chiness as well.

copying and stealing!!! don't don't forget.

Oh yeah,let see whats the all-mighty Indians army boys are using ?

Wow, "Insas" assault rifle=State of Art !!

Lets see the super performance of such rifle;

Saddled with Insas, Army wants new AK-47s - India - The Times of India

NAGPUR: The indigenous 5.56x45mm Insas (Indian National Small Arms System) rifle has been the standard assault weapon for the Indian Army since the late 1990s. However, the jawans using it in counter-insurgency operations find it ineffective.

As part of the new Army doctrine, the gun is meant to incapacitate the enemy, rather than kill. Insas has a smaller calibre, which means it has less power. This is because — and it’s the official view — injuring an enemy can lead to enemy soldiers getting engaged in tending the wounded, thus yielding a tactical battlefield advantage.

The technocrats who interacted with soldiers in the forward areas were told that this theory does not work with terrorists who, apart from attacking in small numbers, are never bothered about evacuating their injured. Hence, the soldiers say, they want to shoot to kill, rather than maim.

The soldiers also spoke about practical difficulties in using Insas. It’s accurate but not as rugged as the AK-47 used by terrorists, they say. Also, its sling often snaps while firing, making it fall during manoeuvres. The sling also obstructs the rifle’s sight. But most of all, the size of the sling never took into account the bullet proof jacket worn by jawans. As a result, it falls short and is uncomfortable to hold. This hampers quick reaction. Insas also does not have a rapid fire feature; it shoots only three rounds in a single burst.

‘‘The barrel overheats with continuous firing. The magazine cracks even on falling, which is common during action. Oil spillage while firing is also major trouble,’’ said a source quoting soldiers. ‘‘Zeroing (adjusting the sight for aim) has to be done each time the rifle is opened to clean or for any other reason. Lack of proper zeroing hampers the working of night vision device,’’ said the same source.
Wow, some state of art rifle !!

 

[Communist]

Wow wow wow, relax dude, now where the hell did you figure out That India is going to wage a war against china, Our army chief said that the army will defend the country from the agression from both pakistan and china, see we had incidents like chinese soldiers crossing over LAC and writing china on stones, Chasing away the people near LAC saying its Chinese land, getting your helicopters violating the airspace, we consider that as your agression and Our army has to do everything to stop this from happening again, so that does not mean that we rage a war, he said India can take on pakistan and china at once when there is a war, he never said India will start a war, so cool down

First of all, all your accusations have not been investigated by any international body. So how can we believe all your accusations are true? China can also accuse you saying Indian army tried to penetrate deep into the Chinese territory.

Second of all, you are deliberately insulting two nations by calling them aggressors. You guys are lucky that here mods are too much liberal and tolerant. Do you see any Pakistani or Chinese calling India an aggressor in your BR forum?

Thirdly, why your military chief is creating political tension giving such statements now?

 

[DesiGuy]

it means you guys don't know Sh....

inorder for an engineer to be worth his/her gold. he/she would have the capacity to Copy off simple 50's era equipment


even the north koreans can knock-off soviet weapons

looks like you guys are very proud of copying.

 

[Communist]

now figure it out, why i said that.

Yes, I figured out.

You wanted to insult a sovereign nation. And ironically in that nation's defense forum. This is just unacceptable.

 

[amarnath]

First of all, all your accusations have not been investigated by any international body. So how can we believe all your accusations are true? China can also accuse you saying Indian army tried to penetrate deep into the Chinese territory.

Second of all, you are deliberately insulting two nations by calling them aggressors. You guys are lucky that here mods are too much liberal and tolerant. Do you see any Pakistani or Chinese calling India an aggressor in your BR forum?

Thirdly, why your military chief is creating political tension giving such statements now?

Now we havent gone to any international body to make them agree to it as it did not cause any harm to us, and we directly informed China about it... and Yes When you can do it why cannot we prepare ourselves for that moment of war which is pretty much obvious. and Yes ofcource china and pakistan are agressieve enough.

 

[DesiGuy]

Yes, I figured out.

You wanted to insult a sovereign nation. And ironically in that nation's defense forum. This is just unacceptable.

no, i don't think you actually did found out yet.


first, check Sovereign definition here:
Sovereignty is the quality of having supreme, independent authority over a territory.
Sovereignty - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Now tell me, if your government has enough guts to stop American drones attacks in your territory?
can the government protect it's people against Taliban attacks?
oh, wait, attacks from RAW, mossad and CIA?

 

[DesiGuy]

Oh yeah,let see whats the all-mighty Indians army boys are using ?

Wow, "Insas" assault rifle=State of Art !!

Lets see the super performance of such rifle;

Saddled with Insas, Army wants new AK-47s - India - The Times of India

NAGPUR: The indigenous 5.56x45mm Insas (Indian National Small Arms System) rifle has been the standard assault weapon for the Indian Army since the late 1990s. However, the jawans using it in counter-insurgency operations find it ineffective.

As part of the new Army doctrine, the gun is meant to incapacitate the enemy, rather than kill. Insas has a smaller calibre, which means it has less power. This is because — and it’s the official view — injuring an enemy can lead to enemy soldiers getting engaged in tending the wounded, thus yielding a tactical battlefield advantage.

The technocrats who interacted with soldiers in the forward areas were told that this theory does not work with terrorists who, apart from attacking in small numbers, are never bothered about evacuating their injured. Hence, the soldiers say, they want to shoot to kill, rather than maim.

The soldiers also spoke about practical difficulties in using Insas. It’s accurate but not as rugged as the AK-47 used by terrorists, they say. Also, its sling often snaps while firing, making it fall during manoeuvres. The sling also obstructs the rifle’s sight. But most of all, the size of the sling never took into account the bullet proof jacket worn by jawans. As a result, it falls short and is uncomfortable to hold. This hampers quick reaction. Insas also does not have a rapid fire feature; it shoots only three rounds in a single burst.

‘‘The barrel overheats with continuous firing. The magazine cracks even on falling, which is common during action. Oil spillage while firing is also major trouble,’’ said a source quoting soldiers. ‘‘Zeroing (adjusting the sight for aim) has to be done each time the rifle is opened to clean or for any other reason. Lack of proper zeroing hampers the working of night vision device,’’ said the same source.
Wow, some state of art rifle !!

i thought you guys don't believe Indian media?

anyways, do you know Some Indian don't also trust media that much?

 

[Iggy]

First of all, all your accusations have not been investigated by any international body. So how can we believe all your accusations are true? China can also accuse you saying Indian army tried to penetrate deep into the Chinese territory.

Second of all, you are deliberately insulting two nations by calling them aggressors. You guys are lucky that here mods are too much liberal and tolerant. Do you see any Pakistani or Chinese calling India an aggressor in your BR forum?

Thirdly, why your military chief is creating political tension giving such statements now?

Well first both Pakistanis and Chinese started accusing Indians as agressors in this thread while the article clearly states that its was about the counter meaures taken in the event of a war..so if you guys can insult our nation by calling us agressor then we also have the right to call your nations agressor too..

And for Generals statement..it was purely meant for Indians ..He is giving us assurances that we are getting ready to defend any attack by Pakistan and China..Its nothing for you to concern about if your countries are not going to attack us ..

 

[amarnath]

it means you guys don't know Sh....

inorder for an engineer to be worth his/her gold. he/she would have the capacity to Copy off simple 50's era equipment


even the north koreans can knock-off soviet weapons

building a weapon in the lines of another one is differant from copying it. INSAS is in the lines of AK-47, INSAS has even better range than AK-47 but the only problem is you have to maintain it well.. and I dont think a nation which cannot copy is considered backward... well some unusual mentality of typical pakistans is showcased here..