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India is dominant regionally,There was an era when the world used to see India & Pakistan on equal terms. Today nobody does that : S Jaishankar

Oh no we are doomed by supa dupa India. Holly shit... 😁😄
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The issue is Pakistan still has too many US assets in it, the political situation is not stable and even leader can be couped easily by the British-lite parliament system.
India, despite corruption and political incompetence, is still stabler.

Still, I think Bangladesh is still the best of the bunch in the region for now, let's just hope the region will become politically stabler in the future.

Pakistan needs to focus on the economy and create political stability inside the country, maintain peaceful relationship to all his neighbor. Indonesia under Soeharto is also very corrupt but due to political stability the country can still grow at 7-8 percent annually.

The same thing as happens in Indonesia. Here we have military fanboys who wants to side with US and buy 9 billion USD of F15, 8 billion USD of Rafale, and 4 billion USD of FREEM frigates.

But economic team who understand both economy and geopolitics better AlhamduliLLAH has more say within our administration and so far, we only order 1.1 billion USD of 6 Rafale. They still prioritize long term economic development although not downplaying defense capability either where around 9 billion USD defense budget annually is actually a quite decent number where we have 400.000-Armed Force personnel and 400.000 police officer that can become soldiers as well in the time of war (total 800.000 personnel)

Our finance minister stated last month during G20 meeting that it is fool and dangerous for Indonesia to leave its neutrality position when it comes to competition between US and China. It is despite we clearly understand that we have dispute with China in SCS, but any dispute if it is managed wisely will not likely burst into military conflict as we have experienced with other neighbor as well.

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MILITARY SPENDING IN ASIA​

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How much do Asian countries spend on their military?

Asia Military Spending, Percentage to GDP

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lol... What has India really achieved?

India was basically there eating from poverty if anything the gap has widened towards Pakistan now
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Pakistan needs to focus on the economy and create political stability inside the country, maintain peaceful relationship to all his neighbor. Indonesia under Soeharto is also very corrupt but due to political stability the country can still grow at 7-8 percent annually.

The same thing as happens in Indonesia. Here we have military fanboys who wants to side with US and buy 9 billion USD of F15, 8 billion USD of Rafale, and 4 billion USD of FREEM frigates.

But economic team who understand both economy and geopolitics better AlhamduliLLAH has more say within our administration and so far, we only order 1.1 billion USD of 6 Rafale. They still prioritize long term economic development although not downplaying defense capability either where around 9 billion USD defense budget annually is actually a quite decent number where we have 400.000-Armed Force personnel and 400.000 police officer that can become soldiers as well in the time of war (total 800.000 personnel)

Our finance minister stated last month during G20 meeting that it is fool and dangerous for Indonesia to leave its neutrality position when it comes to competition between US and China. It is despite we clearly understand that we have dispute with China in SCS, but any dispute if it is managed wisely will not likely burst into military conflict as we have experienced with other neighbor as well.

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MILITARY SPENDING IN ASIA​

16 Jun 2022
How much do Asian countries spend on their military?

Asia Military Spending, Percentage to GDP

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Hmm, China is dangerously close to that 2%, Vietnam and S. Korea already pass that (N. Korea probably already more), Japan is trying to reach that 2%.
Hmm, seems Asia will be a hotzone in the future.
 
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Every day you laugh at India is a day we’ve widened the gap between us by leaps and bounds. Enjoy that fauji cereal and pizza, I’m always grateful I was born in India as I am. Imagine having to be a sane, rational, thinking pakistani — helplessly watching as their nation chokes on its own incompetence and delusions of grandeur. Nightmare fuel.

Don't get ahead ahead of yourself. We have the army, but you have Modi. Talking about grandeur have a good look in the mirror. The 1+ billion of you.
 
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Any reason they haven’t yet rebelled to the level expected and hoped by many experts? Level where India goes Pakistan way as in 1971.
Please don’t point towards many insurgencies that remain alive in various parts of the country. Since, most of them have been around for decades and few since 1947. Most of them are at lowest level and would become irrelevant soon.

Actually, any statement by members in favour or against is of very little value. It would soon turn into tu tu mai mai since there is no objective method of measuring this influence.
Known instances of treatment by major powers is a decent indication of a nation’s clout.

We all know about the most awaited telephone call in a nations history that is yet to come. Saudi Arabia refused to fly a PM back from the US, to teach him a lesson was another instance. There are few more.

On the other hand nations have fallen over each other to welcome a guy blamed not too far back for atrocities on a minority as a CM. Why is that? Because they fell in love with him?
I wouldn’t even mention financial status which is known to all.

Lot of people start talking about size of India vs Pakistan and claim that bigger nation has to have bigger economy. In that case, Pakistani economy should be close to 1/7th the size of India’s. Is it actually? We all know where it stands. Moreover, there are many smaller nations with bigger clout and better izzat. That proves that size theory is a lame one and should be put under lock and key.

There are few clowns who quote a westerner who has stated something damning about India or Pakistan to further their argument of India vs Pakistan. These fools are the ones that always need a validation from a gora. Some of these jokers stay and earn their bread in these countries but still haven’t got out of “Gora is superior” mentality.

Not saying that India has reached anywhere great. There is a long way to go in removing poverty, hunger etc etc. Many more issues persist.

But Pakistan’s demand for being treated at the same level? Laughable.
What's laughable is that u Indians have this complex to prove urselves superior. Do u see Germany making statements along the lines that they shouldn't be compared to Lithuania or that they are a regional power with much more clout than their neighbors? Those who truly have achieved greatness...don't have the need to boast about it. If u constantly have to scream and shout and tell the world that India is mahaan...well then...that speaks volumes about ur inner insecurities.
 
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The Indian and Pakistani fanboys on both sides need to calm down and objectively assess the situation.

Shitflinging won't solve anything, you guys have more common than differences.
 
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The Indian and Pakistani fanboys on both sides need to calm down and objectively assess the situation.

Shitflinging won't solve anything, you guys have more common than differences.

The Indians can dance on my middle finger. Is that good enough for you?

As for having a great economy, what use is such an economy when the disparity between rich and poor is like a pile of trash sitting at Taj Mahal. India is mediocre. It claims to be an economic superpower, but it still has the largest pool of poor people on the face of the earth. It puts Africa to shame. Indians are keyboard warriors. Indians are obnoxious loudmouths.

 
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The Indians can dance on my middle finger. Is that good enough for you?

As for having a great economy, what use is such an an economy when the gulf and disparity between rich and poor is like a pile of trash sitting at Taj Mahal.

And then the Indian fanboys will retort with another picture or article of Pakistanis living in poverty.
Crabs in a bucket, boys, that don't help anything, just endless shitflinging.
 
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And then the Indian fanboys will retort with another picture or article of Pakistanis living in poverty.
Crabs in a bucket, boys, that don't help anything, just endless shitflinging.

My point is, no one can beat India when it comes to poverty. The Indians can point fingers all day long. India is still a dump in the world's eyes. That is Indian reputation at the end of the day.
 
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The Indians can dance on my middle finger. Is that good enough for you?

As for having a great economy, what use is such an economy when the disparity between rich and poor is like a pile of trash sitting at Taj Mahal. India is mediocre. It claims to be an economic superpower, but it still has the largest pool of poor people on the face of the earth. It puts Africa to shame. Indians are keyboard warriors. Indians are obnoxious loudmouths.

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Latest UNDP report



Blah blah blah. Stupid Indian. Always bragging. You got nothing. Everyone knows the slums. Everyone knows the pictures. Unhygienic, disorganized and nasty.
 
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40٪ Pakistanis live below the poverty line


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Compare the numbers. You guys are the largest slum on the planet. You put entire Africa to shame. The gulf between rich and poor is enormous. Many rich Indians flee India and go to UAE or other destinations. I know how many Indians are living abroad and earning their salaries to fees their families back home. You are not a superpower. Not remotely. You are just a caste based society that likes to pretend that Israel is its best friend.
 
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