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India is destroying sports in Pakistan

I do not follow this thread much. But I think we are looking for our interests alone. Our sports is doing better day by day. We are diversifying for quite a few years now. Apart from Cricket, we have badminton, tennis, chess, wrestling champions as well by now. Even our lackluster football team has made it to the top 100 last week. That's all we are worried about I guess.
Self-interest don't help the fans or the sport. Ask any die hard Cricket fan about boycott and you'll understand what i mean.
So as you can see, there is no qualification ... ONLY INVITE... AGAIN why wasn't Pakistan Hockey NOT INVITED??
Crying...Pakistan has gone down in Hockey, do give me any more examples especially related to Malaysia...What a retarded argument, you people can't accept when you are wrong.
 
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Why should we play cricket with a country that consistently threatens to nuke us? No thx we are better off not playing with pakistan.

Why should you guys post on a forum that belongs to a country that consistently threatens to nuke you?
 
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What a pathetic title and reasoning of senators.
Cricket isnt the only sports you dipwads.
Invest in other sports and play with countries who want to play with you.
India isn't the only country in the world.
 
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Why is India to be blamed for it? Why doesn't Pakistan learn a thing or two about sports from China, a sports superpower, and which is also their big brother?

India has its rights to stop sports relations with Pakistan. First, India & Pakistan are enemy nations. Second, What is there for India to gain from such relations? All we got from Pakistan till date is hatred & terrorism. If India wants to stop inflow of both, then its not wrong at all.
 
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Self-interest don't help the fans or the sport. Ask any die hard Cricket fan about boycott and you'll understand what i mean.
Not sure what the specific grievance is. Please elaborate the reason. I don't know the exact context, sorry.
 
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Everything else is fine, i don't get the logic behind boycotting sport, i really don't. More than hurting Pakistan you are the hurting the sport itself. Same logic applies when you people talk about water or etc, etc...

It is a policy of GoI that we will discourage playing any sports with Pakistan till such time as the terrorism situation resolves. You want to play sports in India stop supporting Kashmiri separatists with Financial, Arms & Ammunition, Training and Moral support.

Otherwise there are 193 other countries. You can play with them and participate in sports events held in them. No one is stopping you
 
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Self-interest don't help the fans or the sport. Ask any die hard Cricket fan about boycott and you'll understand what i mean.

Crying...Pakistan has gone down in Hockey, do give me any more examples especially related to Malaysia...What a retarded argument, you people can't accept when you are wrong.
Lol.. First you said they did not qualify , now you say they are down in hockey!!.. and yet you haven't answered a simply question to why they weren't invited!!

Get you facts correct instead of crying and blaming india for everything!!...India isn't to only country in the world!

Accept that first!
 
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It is a policy of GoI that we will discourage playing any sports with Pakistan till such time as the terrorism situation resolves. You want to play sports in India stop supporting Kashmiri separatists with Financial, Arms & Ammunition, Training and Moral support.

Otherwise there are 193 other countries. You can play with them and participate in sports events held in them. No one is stopping you
Where does your policy go during world cups? hypocrisy?
India isn't to only country in the world!
Give me another example. I said 'i guess we didn't qualify.' Read again.
 
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Indians behavior only reflects it's mentality and its hate for Pakistan.

You are stating the obvious & it applies both ways.

Hate is a mild word when used to describe India Pak relations.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1331643/the-mou-is-just-a-letter-not-a-formal-contract-claims-bcci

The Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) on Sunday indicated that it wants to fulfil the commitment being made under the Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) with Pakistani Cricket Board (PCB), however, the board needs approval from the Indian government before it can play Pakistan in a bilateral series, reported ESPNcricinfo.com.

The BCCI secretary, however, claimed that the MoU was "just a letter" and not a formal "contract" and added that the board wanted to fulfil the commitment because it was written with the intent to do so, provided the government gave the go-ahead.

BCCI Secretary Amitabh Choudhary told ESPNcricinfo.com that no matter what the nature of its agreement with the PCB is, the board needs formal approval from the government.

PCB had sent the BCCI a notice under the ICC Dispute Resolution Committee's terms of reference last week for not fulfilling its commitment in accordance with a MoU signed in 2014.

India and Pakistan have not played a full series — apart from two T20Is and three ODIs in 2012 — since the 2008 attacks in Mumbai, which the Indian government blamed on terrorists based out of Pakistan, said the report.

Political relations between the countries remained strained as of today.

"I can assure you that this is a subject where the government has to accord permission," Choudhary said.

"I must inform you that the BCCI has already written to the government in March with regard to the FTP with Pakistan. Unless we hear from them, I cannot make a comment. As far as cricket concerned, if it is a contract, both would try to honour."

When Choudhary was asked if the MoU could be revoked in the absence of government permission, he said: "I don't remember the exact wordings but it is inherent. Honouring of it cannot happen without the government's permission. In any case, it was just a communication, it was just a letter from the secretary of BCCI. So it is not a formal contract as yet."

The BCCI secretary at that time was Sanjay Patel, who could not be reached for a comment.

Rajeev Shukla, the IPL chairman and a former board vice-president, said that the BCCI would not want to play the series at a neutral venue though.

"We have had a consistent policy that we will play on each other's soil," Shukla said. "Pakistan's security situation is not such where you can have a series on their soil. Only Zimbabwe has played a series and no other countries are touring Pakistan. They are not being able to provide adequate security. First you make your venues such where you can provide fool-proof security. And for India, the security concerns are even more. How can we risk our players?"

The PCB's position, however, is that it must host the first series between Pakistan and India, as stated in the MoU. The PCB has hosted its home series largely in the UAE ever since the Sri Lankan team was attacked in Pakistan in 2009.

Talking about the India-West Indies series at a neutral venue, Florida, recently, Shukla said those T20s were a home series for India, and the BCCI had staged the games in the USA to explore a new market.

PCB Executive Committee Chairman Najam Sethi, in his response to the BCCI's latest standing on the issue, said: "I am glad to know that Choudhary has reiterated a commitment to play. But we are treating the written agreement as a binding legal contract and not 'just as a letter'. So we intend to pursue this matter to a logical conclusion."

Najam Sethi was the PCB chairman when the MoU was signed in 2014 as part and parcel of the PCB's negotiations to enter the Big Three constitution.

"In fact, the contract specifically notes the ICC circumstances in which it was signed," he added.

Sethi pointed out that the security issue was a bogey because the series was envisaged in a mutually agreed third neutral country and not in Pakistan.
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For the record :

memorandum of understanding (MOU or MoU)

A memorandum of understanding (MOU or MoU) is a formal agreement between two or more parties. Companies and organizations can use MOUs to establish official partnerships.

MOUs are not legally binding but they carry a degree of seriousness and mutual respect, stronger than a gentlemen’s agreement. Often, MOUs are the first steps towards a legal contract. In US law, a memorandum of understanding is synonymous with a letter of intent (LOI), which is a non-binding written agreement that implies a binding contract is to follow.

MOUs are popular in multinational international relations because, unlike treaties, they take a short time to ratify and can be kept confidential. MOUs may also be used to modify existing legal treaties.
 
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You are stating the obvious & it applies both ways.
No it doesn't, we haven't expressed such idiotic behavior ever..Even after what happened in 1971.

I don't care about MOU's. I am talking in a general sense, Cricket isn't the only sport that has suffered.
 
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No it doesn't, we haven't expressed such idiotic behavior ever..Even after what happened in 1971.

I don't care about MOU's. I am talking in a general sense, Cricket isn't the only sport that has suffered.

Sir , since we have come to a conclusion that India being the " evil " state that they are , have been harming Pakistani sport. I have a few counterpoints.

What little has Pakistan done to correct this ?
Is Pakistan capable enough to do anything at all to stem this flow ?
What level of diplomacy and clout Pakistan hold in the world stage to sway opinions ?


Does this crying not look like an after-effect of a failed policy ?
All these threads simply justifies the Indian stand and actions being concrete , stable and inline with its rhetoric whose only objective is to counter Pakistani influence in every field.
 
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PSL was a success, what are you talking about?

India hosted the Squash, Wrestling, and junior hockey cups, but denied visas to the Pakistani teams.

Other competitions are hosted in Pakistan and go fine; but in this case, where India hosted, issues arise when their sports organisation whether its cricket, wrestling, squash, hockey, or boxing, just accuses Pakistan of terrorism and denies the team entry.

He's right, no other country just bans international teams because of politics, and India shouldn't host international events if they try and lump sports and politics together.

havent we seen indian giving toxic or poision to our blind team. didnt let our Kbaddi team to play. bycott our cricket team we sud not expect anything good from India.
but our ministers are destroying our sports not only india. we need to find the root cause and destroy those culprits first before we take some action on india.
 
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Sir , since we have come to a conclusion that India being the " evil " state that they are , have been harming Pakistani sport. I have a few counterpoints.

What little has Pakistan done to correct this ?
Is Pakistan capable enough to do anything at all to stem this flow ?
What level of diplomacy and clout Pakistan hold in the world stage to sway opinions ?


Does this crying not look like an after-effect of a failed policy ?
All these threads simply justifies the Indian stand and actions being concrete , stable and inline with its rhetoric whose only objective is to counter Pakistani influence in every field.
I agree with your questions but can you justify what India is doing? i guess not. We aren't as wrong as you are on this one.
 
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I agree with your questions but can you justify what India is doing? i guess not. We aren't as wrong as you are on this one.

Why should anybody try and justify Indian actions. India is acting ( contrary to the constant Pakistani claims that India is a paper tiger ). Indian actions are hurting you at points across a spectrum and you have no way out.

Hypothetically do you want me to believe that had Pakistan being in the position of India and vice versa , the outcome would have been different.

A war is being fought at multiple levels not only at the borders and let's not deny and de-hyphenate.
 
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