India Is Creating Its Own West Bank in Kashmir: Bloomberg

[PaklovesTurkiye]

@MastanKhan @Oscar @Reddington @Humble Analyst @Meengla and others

 

[The Terminator]

IMHO 'The End Game' has started and global powers global powers are aligning themselves too. The time has come which was promised and prophecised to us firstly by the Last Prophet Hazrat Muhammad (S.A.W), then through great visionary Muslim poet Naimatullah Shah Wali and now presently predicted by a Peer named Peer Pinjar of Pakistan about the last war the Ghazva e Hind.
According to them a great war would be fought between Muslims and the non believer Opressors in the area of Hind. Muslim Mujahideen and honest rulers would lead the war from Turkey to Arab, Even Khurasan Afghan and Some Irani maybe would come to assist the Pakistan. And according to one quote 'Sindh's(present day most of Pakistani territory consists of ancient Indus Valley area which is also Sindh) destruction would be through Hind and Hind's destruction would be through Cheen(China).
According to another prophecy Attock would be lost so this means heavy losses on Pakistan side first but then the Muslims would conquer all of Hind disband their system and would return to their lands with the rulers of Hind chained and restrained. And when Muslims would return victorious from Hind you would find 'Esa Ibn Maryam'(A.S), or more commonly named in English as Jesus Christ, amongst you.

There are many coincident too like US wish to negotiate a withdrawal and at last finding a solution including Pakistan and Afghan Taliban in this solution which were practically excluded for about a decade or so. The eventual and more strong rise of Afghan Taliban control and Govt looks really probable by now.

There are many overlapping prophecies too eg naimatullah shah Wali also quoted the annihilation of 'ا' or 'A' by
'ر' or 'R'. No one knows the meaning for sure but according to some commentators it something to do with 'R' of Russia and 'A' of 'America'. May be they are all connected or may be seperate events. But these are really the strongest prophecies within Muslims being repeated for centuries. It could be world War 3 or only the war of Hind but the indications show that the clock is ticking towards great war of Ghazva e Hind and Hind has written its own death warrant through these oppressive moves and they are destined to downfall. It would not be more than a decade or so from this date according to the prediction of Peer Pinjar.

What do you think?? Especially from Pakistani and Kashmiri members here. Indian side would of course always deny it and would tag these as just conspiracy theories. etc

You can ridicule the concept of Jihad for Muslims as a Qadiyani but it is what it is.

Days of PTI fascism are over in Pak.

How do you know about his religious believes or sect? Let me know how to check credentials of members so accurately so I may benefit from it in future.
I am Sunni Hanfi Pakistani Muslim by the way and I fully support the religious term Jihad and Ghazva e Hind. Eagarly waiting for that war and our ultimate victory INSHA ALLAH

 

[El Sidd]

How do you know about his religious believes or sect?

Because he is vocal about it Mr. Hanafi

 

[The Terminator]

No he didn't. He ordered the army but they refused citing illegality of such action (attacking peaceful Kashmir)

LOL you are entirely wrong. It was due to English man commander of armed forces refused to attack on Indian armed forces because they were too under British crown by then. So how he would attack against forces who are holding their own queen's flag. I now sense you are truly mislead person

Because he is vocal about it Mr. Hanafi

LOL I am not 'Mr. Hanafi' though my believes are. Are you pointing to me too with hostility! Or it's just in the lighter mood.

Then what the hell that member is doing here. A person who even doesn't respect his own so called self acclaimed 'islam' and still calls himself as Muslim. Isn't there any regulation of membership in this regard. A person a self acclaimed Muslim who betrays his own religion, religious teachings and its fundamental principles and also speaks like traitor and betrayer of his own country. How credible he would be to be a part of this forum. I am really surprised by Admins here.

 

[The Terminator]

Because he is vocal about it Mr. Hanafi

Hey tell me why did you call me Mr. Hanafi? It feels awkward. Are you some Ahl e Hadees or Wahabi, or From Shia Sect? Because I felt you taunt me for that. I would hereby declare myself a simple Pakistani Muslim believer of united Muslim Ummah. I don't know if it is even possible in this world but still I have faith in it. I have repeatedly offered prayers behind Barelvi, Deobandi imams, Wahabi imams, the official imams of the two holy mosques and gulf region they are arguably mostly labeled as Wahabi too. I didnt have problem to offer behind bangali Muslim Wahabi imam too. African ethnic imam too have heard countless Khutbas from all those imams. But could never get into the Shia's mosque because of too much security there. And I even really don't know how do they offer prayer apart from the rumor that they offer joint prayers named zuhrain and maghribain. No hatred to any Muslim out there. Despite of any differences in point of view there may be, they are all my brothers. The Muslim Brotherhood. I don't know the reason of your remark there
I apologize in advance for any of my ignorance. And my bad vocabulary of exact terms of various sects of Islam and persons related to them. If you feel anything bad in it, It's purely unintentional and please forgive me for my ignorance.

 

[PradoTLC]

i am so glad we have Pakistan

 

[PradoTLC]

India Is Creating Its Own West Bank in Kashmir
Erasing the troubled state’s autonomy will only inflame separatist sentiment and undermine the country’s standing as a liberal democracy.
By
Mihir Sharma
August 5, 2019, 12:16 PM GMT+2

A vision of the future? Photographer: Tauseef Mustafa/AFP/Getty Images

Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s government in India often claims that its actions are unprecedented -- that no government in India’s history has been bold enough to do what it does. Most of the time this is, to put it mildly, an exaggeration. But on Monday, they certainly went far beyond what any previous Indian government has done about the troubled state of Jammu & Kashmir. And that’s a big, big problem.

After a tense and terse build-up -- during which a major pilgrimage was canceled, the Kashmir Valley was flooded with soldiers and Kashmiri politicians were arrested -- Modi’s right-hand man, Home Minister Amit Shah, announced a set of Kashmir-related legal changes in Parliament on Monday. In essence they scrap the special status promised to Jammu & Kashmir when it became part of India seven decades ago; divide the state into two; and reduce the power of elected state politicians to pass laws and control the local police. Jammu & Kashmir will no longer have the rights and privileges of a state of the Indian Union, but instead be a Union Territory, with its laws requiring the assent and permission of the government in New Delhi.

Perhaps these changes will not be upheld by India’s Supreme Court. But, if they are, they would indeed be unprecedented. No Indian government has ever seriously wanted to disturb the delicate legal balance that underlies New Delhi’s claim to the Valley. Moreover, there is no doubt they will inflame separatist sentiment in Kashmir. Its residents are already simmering with anger at decades of repression and a constant military presence in their homes and villages. Now, in their eyes, their sole claim to autonomy and identity has been taken away.

What will these changes mean for Kashmir’s future, and India’s? If implemented fully, one big thing will change: Previously, only those from Kashmir could own land there; now the Valley could be flooded with settlers from outside. India has never played the demographic card -- used its overwhelming numbers elsewhere to render native Kashmiris’ demands moot, the way that Beijing has by urging Han Chinese to migrate to Tibet and Xinjiang.

Whether Kashmir will end up looking like those restive, semi-autonomous provinces, or more like the West Bank -- with armed settlers living in highly protected colonies amid a larger, disenfranchised population subject to arbitrary justice -- is not clear at the moment. Those are, however, the most likely options.

Neither would be in any way a positive for India. Whatever else, this country still aspires to be a liberal democracy respected worldwide, and it won’t be if it creates a Xinjiang or a West Bank in Kashmir, rendering people second-class citizens or putting them in camps. Nor do India’s people and economy have the resources to deal with a sustained, angry insurgency.

Worse, many other restive parts of India -- with shrinking populations, as opposed to the growing ones in Modi’s heartland of the north and west -- will be given fresh reason to fear this demographic bludgeon. Already various states are designing laws meant to deny employment to “outsiders.” The prospect of large-scale settlement would enrage sub-nationalists elsewhere in India, hardly a desirable outcome from New Delhi’s point of view.

The reasons that Modi’s government has done this have, therefore, nothing to do with India’s national interest. It’s all about pushing forward his Bharatiya Janata Party’s deeply rooted ideals of Hindu majoritarianism. Kashmir is India’s only Muslim-majority state and its autonomy is offensive to the BJP and its ideological fellow-travelers. Israel -- which they see not as a multi-ethnic democracy, but as a militant religio-nationalist state that knows how to treat Muslims -- has always been their ideal.

It’s also a simple electoral calculation: Whenever there is tension between Hindus and Muslims, the BJP does better in elections. The economy is visibly struggling and, like other populist-authoritarians, Modi may well see this as a good moment to double down on majoritarian identity politics.

The tragedy for Kashmir and India is that there is likely to be no real pushback against this decision. Modi’s parliamentary majority in this year’s general elections was large enough to have cowed the political opposition in New Delhi. The media has been muzzled or bought off, and independent institutions have had their wings clipped. The Kashmiris’ most popular leaders are far from sympathetic spokesmen: Those who are not corrupt, compromised or dynasts are largely al-Qaeda-loving Islamist fundamentalists.

Nor will there be any real pressure from abroad, at least to begin with. Donald Trump loves authoritarians more than liberal democrats anyway. And has anybody stepped up for Xinjiang? No, instead the world has cravenly kowtowed to Beijing. Then why should Modi worry that anyone will isolate India if it treats Kashmir similarly?

The only people who might object are those who recognize the road that this takes India down -- one which undermines its Constitution, strains its union and brutalizes its people. But those voices are few and stifled in India today.

Hindus are inherently racist people... what else do you expect?

 

[AmschelHonestvig]

Hindus are inherently racist people... what else do you expect?

Your analogy is Incorrect, The correct analogy is Balkans and Kosovo, Kashmir is Kosovo, and Paksitan is more like Albania , the Indian Union is the very apt Yugoslavia SFR.

Rather than your VERY incorrect analogy of (Palestines a marxist state ) and Kashmir (a Monotheistic Capitalist State), and pakistanian role as that of almost landlock kingdom of Jordan or disjointed french run Syria.
Palestine objective is to become part of the EU as a marxist/socialist - entity

Whereas the Kashmiri Objective is Freedom from the IU ( Indian Union) ! Like Brexit but in Heart of Asia !

AJK Kashmir is already a free country; albeit within the Pakistanian monetary and Defence Ambit ( it is like Switzerland and Kosovo Landlocked) until the time it can get the promised referrendum from both sides as UN Promised, it also has a fully functioning independent Parliament and Prime Minister- therefore not Represented in the Pakistaninan Parliament.

Even if it were ot acheive full Independence, It has 2 provinces occupied /administed by China which will need to be returned, as a gesture of goodwill, Its relations with Pakistan would likely be stronger due to co-relgiouinsit and Geographic domination of Peaks Pakistan, but also maintain healthy relations with Indian Union diiolves into its smaller sconstituent republics which would avail of Kashmir as a Switzerland of Asia, Afgani, the chinese russian and other-Stans would also have this opportunity - Much like Albania and Kosovo, montenegro, North. Macedonia !

The pre-occupation of likening everthing to palestines is not valid and incorrect, it shows political and historical immaturity which the R-SS are exploiting to link very seperate issues, in order to avoid international isolation - mthey are tryin very hard to clutch to israel and myanmar - Israel as a populatoin has abandoned them,although at government level arms sales contuine, Indian union is bribing Myanmar and ignited the Rohingya issue to deflect any potential opposition from Myanmar who is diversifying air focr with china-Pakistan and Indian Union recently gifted submarine to buy freidshio - it is very desperate.

The Indian Union, already very isolated by almost every evangelical Chrsitian group over its treatment of Kashmiris is trying to rope in Israel public support by likening it to palestinenesn, since Israelis are in the misdt of the palestines issue and has n immediate daily impact ( rockets landing in sderot, air raid sirensetc),
whereas with Kashmir they are detached and can see

This is at a time when even world Jewish sympathy and even hard right elements of the Israeli Media and public Opinion - especially the generation who lived in contact with holocaust survivors can completely recognise the Indian Union's brutality and hlocause-esque behaviour as Nazi and Indian Union's renaissance as the 3rd reich re-incarnated.

The Indian Union are creating an Aushwitz, Dachau and the likes of holocaust-eque proportions, they have openly called to rape dead Kashmiri and Moslem women from out of their graves ( some freaky re-incarnation necrophilia belief), [Chief Minister Yoga-man as reference point] and they are appropriating land, estates and property of Kashmiri since many Kashmiri are Goldsmiths and intellectuals; the Indian Union is suing the Nazi SS or R-SS (Renaissance-SS) Script and like the Nazi blamed Jews for Controlling the Gold and ecnonomy they are blaming the Kashmiri for controlling the Gold and Economy.

This is Since the forced Demonitisation failed - they are resorting to nazi propaganada to usurp the rights, property and finally the lives and population of the Kashmiri People, keep going - its like mein Kampf being played out on daily basis .

Pakistanian PM Imran Khan has been a key campaigner for speaking up against Nazi Holocaust and anti-semitism as a lifelong campaigner and also a victim himself of anti-semtism

Even withiin the Indian Union Politacal party groups see the EU European Union whitewash of the Indian Union as Nazi now, and it is all out in the open, #Brexit Brexiteers in the UK hit the nail right on rightly called out the EU on its neo-Nazi institutional policy. !

The Proposal here as a Solution is very simple mass Public solution : to pick up the movement as
Krexit -Kashmir Exit from the Indian Union

#KREXIT - KASHMIR EXIT FROM THE INDIAN UNION

1. Kashmir to end the Monetary Union with the Indian Union (Article 370 has done this, as has CAA ,35-a)
2. Kashmir to Refuse using the Single Hindi Language (Forced Sansrkitisation, wiope out history &usurping cultural identity)
3. Kashmir to refuse to use the Single Currency of the Indian Union - Kashmiri Demonitise the Indian Union Rupee.
Instead use the US DOLLAR/GBP -POUND CHF -Swizz Franc.

Once it is clear/unclear to instituional investors that the INDIAN UNION RUPEE money is real fake or demonisitised previous currency - it looses its legitimacy, as it is simply not trustworthy and a pile of useless newspaper slips, please feel free to use wipe arse with or use as firewoood, the demonisitised notes.

This is a Mass and International not siply Pan-Asian Movement focussing on the Indian Union Ecnonmy, due to its role of being a Nazi anti-semtitic disgustful evil holocaust-esque colossus of filth,

Use the Logo and Peacefully vote with your Money, Invest your money in AJK Kashmir.

Indian Union has to unravel its unholy multiple artificial umbuilical cords, it was made on soviet lines with sucessive Nazi Party governemnt, Many free Nations will emerge out of the Indian Union

This is an Individual and ECONOMIC MOVEMENT to empower people themselves, not a political nor Violent one, since it is the final democratic means possible and actinign within the parameters of the law - depsite violations and atricious attacks on Kashmiri protestors and systematic anti-semitic repression from the Indian Union.

Self defence is your opwn choice whether indivudal or Collective repsonsibility is your own choice - UN charter Human rights.

Youve heard the term vote with your money - Here is Only to advocate Economic vote for Freedom with your US Dollar !

 

[PradoTLC]

Your analogy is Incorrect, The correct analogy is Balkans and Kosovo, Kashmir is Kosovo, and Paksitan is more like Albania , the Indian Union is the very apt Yugoslavia SFR.

Rather than your VERY incorrect analogy of (Palestines a marxist state ) and Kashmir (a Monotheistic Capitalist State), and pakistanian role as that of almost landlock kingdom of Jordan or disjointed french run Syria.
Palestine objective is to become part of the EU as a marxist/socialist - entity

Whereas the Kashmiri Objective is Freedom from the IU ( Indian Union) ! Like Brexit but in Heart of Asia !

AJK Kashmir is already a free country; albeit within the Pakistanian monetary and Defence Ambit ( it is like Switzerland and Kosovo Landlocked) until the time it can get the promised referrendum from both sides as UN Promised, it also has a fully functioning independent Parliament and Prime Minister- therefore not Represented in the Pakistaninan Parliament.

Even if it were ot acheive full Independence, It has 2 provinces occupied /administed by China which will need to be returned, as a gesture of goodwill, Its relations with Pakistan would likely be stronger due to co-relgiouinsit and Geographic domination of Peaks Pakistan, but also maintain healthy relations with Indian Union diiolves into its smaller sconstituent republics which would avail of Kashmir as a Switzerland of Asia, Afgani, the chinese russian and other-Stans would also have this opportunity - Much like Albania and Kosovo, montenegro, North. Macedonia !

The pre-occupation of likening everthing to palestines is not valid and incorrect, it shows political and historical immaturity which the R-SS are exploiting to link very seperate issues, in order to avoid international isolation - mthey are tryin very hard to clutch to israel and myanmar - Israel as a populatoin has abandoned them,although at government level arms sales contuine, Indian union is bribing Myanmar and ignited the Rohingya issue to deflect any potential opposition from Myanmar who is diversifying air focr with china-Pakistan and Indian Union recently gifted submarine to buy freidshio - it is very desperate.

The Indian Union, already very isolated by almost every evangelical Chrsitian group over its treatment of Kashmiris is trying to rope in Israel public support by likening it to palestinenesn, since Israelis are in the misdt of the palestines issue and has n immediate daily impact ( rockets landing in sderot, air raid sirensetc),
whereas with Kashmir they are detached and can see

This is at a time when even world Jewish sympathy and even hard right elements of the Israeli Media and public Opinion - especially the generation who lived in contact with holocaust survivors can completely recognise the Indian Union's brutality and hlocause-esque behaviour as Nazi and Indian Union's renaissance as the 3rd reich re-incarnated.

The Indian Union are creating an Aushwitz, Dachau and the likes of holocaust-eque proportions, they have openly called to rape dead Kashmiri and Moslem women from out of their graves ( some freaky re-incarnation necrophilia belief), [Chief Minister Yoga-man as reference point] and they are appropriating land, estates and property of Kashmiri since many Kashmiri are Goldsmiths and intellectuals; the Indian Union is suing the Nazi SS or R-SS (Renaissance-SS) Script and like the Nazi blamed Jews for Controlling the Gold and ecnonomy they are blaming the Kashmiri for controlling the Gold and Economy.

This is Since the forced Demonitisation failed - they are resorting to nazi propaganada to usurp the rights, property and finally the lives and population of the Kashmiri People, keep going - its like mein Kampf being played out on daily basis .

Pakistanian PM Imran Khan has been a key campaigner for speaking up against Nazi Holocaust and anti-semitism as a lifelong campaigner and also a victim himself of anti-semtism

Even withiin the Indian Union Politacal party groups see the EU European Union whitewash of the Indian Union as Nazi now, and it is all out in the open, #Brexit Brexiteers in the UK hit the nail right on rightly called out the EU on its neo-Nazi institutional policy. !

The Proposal here as a Solution is very simple mass Public solution : to pick up the movement as
Krexit -Kashmir Exit from the Indian Union

#KREXIT - KASHMIR EXIT FROM THE INDIAN UNION

1. Kashmir to end the Monetary Union with the Indian Union (Article 370 has done this, as has CAA ,35-a)
2. Kashmir to Refuse using the Single Hindi Language (Forced Sansrkitisation, wiope out history &usurping cultural identity)
3. Kashmir to refuse to use the Single Currency of the Indian Union - Kashmiri Demonitise the Indian Union Rupee.
Instead use the US DOLLAR/GBP -POUND CHF -Swizz Franc.

Once it is clear/unclear to instituional investors that the INDIAN UNION RUPEE money is real fake or demonisitised previous currency - it looses its legitimacy, as it is simply not trustworthy and a pile of useless newspaper slips, please feel free to use wipe arse with or use as firewoood, the demonisitised notes.

This is a Mass and International not siply Pan-Asian Movement focussing on the Indian Union Ecnonmy, due to its role of being a Nazi anti-semtitic disgustful evil holocaust-esque colossus of filth,

Use the Logo and Peacefully vote with your Money, Invest your money in AJK Kashmir.

Indian Union has to unravel its unholy multiple artificial umbuilical cords, it was made on soviet lines with sucessive Nazi Party governemnt, Many free Nations will emerge out of the Indian Union

This is an Individual and ECONOMIC MOVEMENT to empower people themselves, not a political nor Violent one, since it is the final democratic means possible and actinign within the parameters of the law - depsite violations and atricious attacks on Kashmiri protestors and systematic anti-semitic repression from the Indian Union.

Self defence is your opwn choice whether indivudal or Collective repsonsibility is your own choice - UN charter Human rights.

Youve heard the term vote with your money - Here is Only to advocate Economic vote for Freedom with your US Dollar !

You clearly havent worked with them have you?....

like i said they are horribly racist...