INDIA INCREASINGLY WARY OF RISING RUSSIA-PAKISTAN TIES

[I S I]

Mevlut Mert Altıntas

also said that.

Write in English.

Nothing much solid here except few helicopters, Pakistan is more wary of USA supplying India gear.

Ye aik aur aaya chawal.

 

[dadeechi]

TO RUSSIA WITH LOVE FROM PAKISTAN

https://twitter.com/x/status/811888084342083588

Russia should thoroughly investigate the Pakistani angle in this tragic incident.

It is a very well known fact Pakistan enjoys close ties with Turkey.

It is also important to note that Pakistan does not recognize Armenia (which is close to Russia) as a state and have always taken anti-Armenian stands like denying Armenian genocide by Turkey.

Couple of weeks ago Armenia blocked Pakistan application to join Russian led Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO) as an Observer state.

 

[Raul_AD]

Russia should thoroughly investigate the Pakistani angle in this tragic incident.

It is a very well known fact Pakistan enjoys close ties with Turkey.

It is also important to note that Pakistan does not recognize Armenia (which is close to Russia) as a state and have always taken anti-Armenian stands like denying Armenian genocide by Turkey.

Couple of weeks ago Armenia blocked Pakistan application to join Russian led Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO) as an Observer state.

IFTDAIYE ISHQUE ME ROTA HAI KAIYA, AAGE AAGE DEKHIYE HOOTA HAI KAIYA.

@dadeechi the above quotation sums up position of pakistan.

 

[Asim Mirza]

Damn, Pakistan just got blown the hell out by Kabulov.

if you enjoying this news then u must look at this too

Zamir Kabulov, the Russian President’s Special Envoy on Afghanistan, reminded India that Moscow hasn’t made any complaints about New Delhi’s growing cooperation with Washington on matters of defense.

GROW UP INDIA

 

[Hareeb]

TO RUSSIA WITH LOVE FROM PAKISTAN

https://twitter.com/x/status/811888084342083588

Well said. Very well said...

 

[I S I]

HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEH

Google the Name of person who murdered Russian Ambassador in Turkey

Jesus is crying at the IQ level of Pakistanies.

Yeah, Jesus only fitted Name & telephone directory in bharatis head. We're not blessed with this feature because we're not into call center stuff.

Russia should thoroughly investigate the Pakistani angle in this tragic incident.

It is a very well known fact Pakistan enjoys close ties with Turkey.

It is also important to note that Pakistan does not recognize Armenia (which is close to Russia) as a state and have always taken anti-Armenian stands like denying Armenian genocide by Turkey.

Couple of weeks ago Armenia blocked Pakistan application to join Russian led Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO) as an Observer state.

Pakistan is also responsible for extinction of Dinosaurs.

 

[WaLeEdK2]

My dear the Video is important. Have a GOOD look at video.

Instead of mentioning who posted it, it is immaterial.

Have a nice day.



Now you are doing disservice towards the martyrs, its a sin.

Pakistan is also responsible for extinction of Dinosaurs.[/QUOTE]

But Allah is not responsible for existence of Dinosaurs.[/QUOTE]

nobody really takes jamat-e-islami seriously. There's a reason they don't rule shit. Sorry to break it to you lol.

 

[somebozo]

Russia has a financially lucrative relationship with India, much more than what Pakistan can currently offer. A handful of Mi-35 helicopters is not going to change the strategic balance in the region.

It is only limited to military production and does not help extend Russian industrial reach to other markets like CPEC does..

 

[Raul_AD]

Pakistan is also responsible for extinction of Dinosaurs.

But Allah is not responsible for existence of Dinosaurs.[/QUOTE]

nobody really takes jamat-e-islami seriously. Sorry to break it to you lol.[/QUOTE]

But nobody takes seriously TTP, BLA, ISIS, Hakkani, JUD, HUM in pakistan.

 

[I S I]

But Allah is not responsible for existence of Dinosaurs

Yes, ISI & Hafiz saeed are responsible.

Now you are doing disservice towards the martyrs, its a sin.

Its a cos°

 

[WaLeEdK2]

But Allah is not responsible for existence of Dinosaurs.

nobody really takes jamat-e-islami seriously. Sorry to break it to you lol.[/QUOTE]

But nobody takes seriously TTP, BLA, ISIS, Hakkani, JUD, HUM in pakistan.[/QUOTE]

I'm talking on political level. Wtf are you bringing these in for lol. These aren't even a threat apart from Isis which can be easily handled.

 

[Raul_AD]

Yes, ISI & Hafiz saeed are responsible.

YOU ARE TAKING THEM SERIOUSLY THIS NEW REVELATION. YOU ARE DOING DISSERVICE TO PAKISTAN.

Its a cos°

THEN PAY IT WITH TANGENT.

 

[Chhatrapati]

These kinda threads are already running and a new thread every day is the current score.

Kabulov's statement has put an end to daydreaming prevalent among many Pakistani members on this forum.

No, that never ends. They are craving for some cooperation in defense sector with Russia because they know the capability of Russian tech. So, even an agreement to import grenade and mortars from Russia will light up like a Christmas tree in this forum and minds of em.

 

[dadeechi]

Pakistan is also responsible for extinction of Dinosaurs.

Well, Pakistan's support to Taliban, Chechens and anti-Assad jihadi forces in Syria is very well known.



The Secret Battles Between US Forces and Chechen Terrorists

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For the last 12 years, U.S. Special Operations forces have repeatedly engaged in fierce combat in Afghanistan against ruthless Taliban allies from Chechnya, who have the same pedigree as their terrorist brethren threatening to disrupt the Winter Olympics in Russia, current and former commandos tell ABC News.

"I'd say Chechens were a fair percentage of the overall enemy population early in Operation Enduring Freedom," recalled an active-duty senior Special Operations officer, referring to the Pentagon's name for the Afghan war, in which he was among the first ground operatives.

Since the U.S. war in Afghanistan began after September 11, elite U.S. troops' border battles with Chechen jihadis based in Pakistan's tribal safe havens have mostly stayed hidden in the shadows of a clandestine conflict. Special Operations missions are classified secret by default and rarely publicized.

Chechens joining the Taliban and al Qaeda-aligned militias stood out for their ferocity and refusal to surrender, operators with considerable experience in eastern Afghanistan revealed in recent interviews.

"Chechens are a different breed," a Special Forces soldier who has fought them told ABC News.

"They fight till they die. They have more passion, more discipline and less regard for lives," said the soldier, who did ten tours hunting high-value targets in Afghanistan. "A few of them could have just given up but decided they needed to die."

As recently as two years ago, NATO's International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) in Afghanistan reported that scores of foreign fighters including Arabs and Chechens were killed in one major battle with U.S. forces along the border with Pakistan.

Even some of Chechnya's infamous "black widows" -- with an ideological kinship to those Russian forces recently searched for in Sochi -- may have gathered in Pakistan in late 2006 for planned suicide bombings in Kabul, according to an ISAF combat report obtained and released by Wikileaks. No evidence exists that any such attacks were ever carried out, however.

Many Chechens, including veterans of the Afghan fight, are waging war now in Syria against Bashar al Assad's troops, according to experts and jihadi statements.

Numerous U.S. intelligence reports released by Wikileaks said Chechens were serving as trainers and combatants crossing from Pakistan into Afghanistan to fight and die, an assessment sometimes based on intercepts from Taliban radio and cell phone chatter.

Islamist militants from groups in the North Caucasus region -- such as the "Caucasus Emirate," whose leader Doku Umarov last July threatened to attack the Sochi Olympics -- have primarily fought Russian forces in Chechnya and Dagestan and targeted civilians in Russia in brutal terrorist attacks since the early 1990s. Al Qaeda-core in Pakistan has endorsed these attacks but hasn't provided much operational support, experts said.

Another highly decorated special operator whose nine deployments to Afghanistan began in late 2001, compared Chechen jihadis his units sometimes encountered to the Viet Cong guerrillas who U.S. Special Forces fought in the Vietnam War.

"What I always appreciated was their lack of tether. They will transplant anywhere. I don't think they ate or were even clear as to why they fight, wherever it is, but they're fighting most of the time. It's just a fire in their bellies. It's what they do," said the veteran special operator.


When Chechen fighters were known to be dug into a valley along the mountainous border with Pakistan at the outset of a U.S. "clear and hold" mission, "I was ready to get hammered on. I've never seen a foreign fighter walk so alone and not give a damn," the soldier added.

That reputation, however, may have led many in the U.S. military and intelligence to inflate the Chechens' true numbers on a battlefield that is often as foggy as the actual border itself is undefined.

University of Massachusetts at Dartmouth scholar Brian Glyn Williams, who has searched for evidence of Chechen foreign fighters on the ground in Afghanistan while under contract with the U.S. military and CIA, said it wouldn't be surprising if some had joined the Taliban but he insists such tales are mostly a "Chechen jihadi myth."

"I think the lack of evidence is telling. There is a total absence of any names or anything tangible," Williams told ABC News this week.

Christopher Swift, a Georgetown University scholar and ABC News consultant who has done research in Afghanistan and interviewed scores of militants in the North Caucasus, agreed there is little hard proof that as many Chechens fought in Afghanistan as has been implied by military reports and noted that none were ever held at the U.S. terrorist prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

But, Swift added, "That's consistent with fighting to the death. These fighters are not going to get captured."

Some Chechens were reputed to have fought with al Qaeda Arabs against U.S. troops during Operation Anaconda in 2002 -- but it may have been the birthplace of the myth.

"It was a pervasive rumor at the time. But I never saw a Chechen. In fact, I'm not sure anyone did," Brandon Friedman, a 101st Airborne platoon commander in Anaconda, told ABC News. Friedman later wrote "The War I Always Wanted" about his experiences.

Williams and Swift said al Qaeda militants who spoke Russian -- often a unifying language for foreign fighters from the former Soviet Union -- and whose corpses appeared Caucasian were presumed to be Chechens, even if they were actually Uzbeks, Tajiks or from other ethnic groups.

"I didn't run into any Uzbeks but I distinctly recall several Chechens with the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan," said the active-duty senior Special Operations officer, recalling combat operations in 2001-2002.

An experienced former operator from America's "tier one" black Special Operations group, "Delta Force," confirmed that misidentifications were common over the course of the war but said some foreign fighters were indeed Chechens. They entered combat as extremely disciplined and well-equipped teams with good weapons discipline and expensive personal gear made by The North Face.

"There were fighters that came to train, came to fight to support the jihad, and those that came to fight and learn U.S. tactics to take back to Chechnya to fight the current Russian government," said the veteran operator, whose affiliation with "The Unit" remains classified.

Any Chechens who survived their confrontations with Navy SEAL, Army Green Beret or Delta operators working for CIA or the Joint Special Operations Command, will not likely forget -- or forgive -- their American adversaries.

"It's safe to say that anyone from the Caucasus who's left the region and 'gone global' would likely see the United States -- and U.S. civilians -- as legitimate targets," said Georgetown's Swift. "This would be particularly true for those who may have fought against U.S. Forces anywhere, including Afghanistan."

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/secret-battles-us-forces-chechen-terrorists/story?id=22580688

 

[Raul_AD]

nobody really takes jamat-e-islami seriously. Sorry to break it to you lol.

But nobody takes seriously TTP, BLA, ISIS, Hakkani, JUD, HUM in pakistan.[/QUOTE]

I'm talking on political level. Wtf are you bringing these in for lol. These aren't even a threat apart from Isis which can be easily handled.[/QUOTE]


THIS IS WHAT I AM SAYING ALL THE ABOVE INCLUDING ISIS ARE NOT TAKEN SERIOUSLY IN PAKISTAN BECAUSE PAKISTAN IS THE GREATEST MARTIAL NATION ON THE FACE OF EARTH.