India hits China wall in anti-terror talks

[Dalai Lama]

Let me simplify it even further.

Ally: One who gives a sh!t to the Blah Blah of your enemy and makes it nothing but frustrated
Master: You can give a better definition since you have too many masters in last 1000 years or so.

Clear?

The master in this case is clever because he's got the servant to believe he is anything more than that. For that, the master deserves praise.

But then again... the servant was vulnerable at the time just after having been left to rot by it's former master so I guess it was an easy job for them.

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

According to you yes. In reality No.

Reality is each ones perception.

I was not talking about china but some other country who claims to be future super power and has war zones in parts of it's own country.

Ok true Pakistan needs to work on terrorism

The worst part is that even illiterates of Pakistan understand it which it's eastern neighbor fails to understand. Sigh.

I disagree , i think general Chinese have better understanding of the issue than illiterates in Pakistan.

Ally: One who gives a sh!t to the Blah Blah of your enemy and makes it nothing but frustrated

But more importantly acts in the time of need.

Master: You can give a better definition since you have too many masters in last 1000 years or so
Clear?

The honor is all yours , as per your own logic(since you have longer tradition than us)

 

[Areesh]

The master in this case is clever because he's got the servant to believe he is anything more than that. For that the master deserves praise.

Well the so called servant isn't praising the so called master without any reason. The reasons are their and they are enough to frustrate a billion people from a particular nation.

But then again... the servant was vulnerable at the time just after having been left to rot by it's former master so I guess it was a easy job for them.

Humm easy job. Rejecting the old whiner's whine isn't that easy but anyways.

 

[Areesh]

Reality is each ones perception.

Huh.

Ok true Pakistan needs to work on terrorism

And so is Bharat.

I disagree , i think general Chinese have better understanding of the issue than illiterates in Pakistan.

This disagreement is exactly the case of your perception.

But more importantly acts in the time of need.

They sure do.

The honor is all yours , as per your own logic(since you have longer tradition than us)

And the guidance and definition is all yours thanks to a long history.

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

Huh.

And so is Bharat.

No doubt

This disagreement is exactly the case of your perception.

Each man with his opinion.

And the guidance and definition is all yours thanks to a long history.

Yup! and thanks for acknowledging our 5000 years history

 

[JayAtl]

As stated in the Indian media's report, India hadn't come up to Beijing with sufficient evidence of the alleged affiliation between the two, and China reasonably rejected to take action before adequate information and prudent consideration. But as a whole, the Indian report has made a misleading title followed with a obfuscating narrative on this event, which, from any angle of perspective, was natural and normal. This fuss, having its roots in the media's adversely attitude towards China, is of no need and no use. So people, Indian or Chinese, can positively expect that when substantial evidence is presented, China and India could work out a plan to counter terrorism in affected area.

As stated in the report India came with additional and all evidence, more than the evidence needed that every OTHER UNSC member agreed was adequate proof enough! (you seem to miss that point) but as the report says - China refused to even hear it/ reconsider it! Further more refused to even hear about your arms suppliers that are becoming infamous in providing weapons to terrorists conflicts ( see : latest Libya row, See: taliban,AQ, TTP, somalia etc using chinese weapons). China’s stance on this issue is akin to 911 truthers and the holocaust deniers- no amount of proof will work, because they don’t want to hear it or see it- to keep the facade of plausible deniability

 

[IndoCarib]

Yet we are not the country with more poor people than Africa, that is India. We are not the country that is ranked as "extreme risk" on the Terrorism risk index, that is India.

So we must be doing something right where India is going wrong.

We also never had the distinction of training terrorist groups on our soil to kill innocent people in our neighbouring countries, but Indira Gandhi did train LTTE terrorists to kill Sri Lankan civilians.

You should make this your signature. saves you the trouble of typing it again and again !

And about training terrorists, I think the epicentre of terrorism is your all weather ally, which you are trying to protect now ! So in way terrorist trainers are your protectorate !

 

[brational]

It seems China is learning fast, "The Art of Terrorism" Afterall everyone learns something from their friends.

 

[fakein]

As stated in the report India came with additional and all evidence, more than the evidence needed that every OTHER UNSC member agreed was adequate proof enough! (you seem to miss that point) but as the report says - China refused to even hear it/ reconsider it! Further more refused to even hear about your arms suppliers that are becoming infamous in providing weapons to terrorists conflicts ( see : latest Libya row, See: taliban,AQ, TTP, somalia etc using chinese weapons). China’s stance on this issue is akin to 911 truthers and the holocaust deniers- no amount of proof will work, because they don’t want to hear it or see it- to keep the facade of plausible deniability

The US's consent means not that China has to agree; otherwise there's no need for five permanent members of the UNSC -- US alone will suffice. According to INDIAN media, China has explained to the Indian delegation technical requirements of the UN solution, which the Indian delegation has obviously agreed and promised to revert within due course. The delegation has acquiesced the inadequacy of their evidence.

China, as well as US, India and Pakistan etc., facing the common threat of terrorism, are ready to take measures to defend peace and maintain stability. But China is willing to take up more sophisticated means rather than simply resorting to violence, which kills but invites more violence and blood. It is not violence that will eradicate terrorism, but economic development, mutual understanding and religious toleration. Poverty is the hotbed of terrorism and war-ridden areas bears no hope of prosperity.

As to the Libya or Somalia allegation etc., you again take the plausible as the credible.

 

[JayAtl]

The US's consent means not that China has to agree; otherwise there's no need for five permanent members of the UNSC -- US alone will suffice. According to INDIAN media, China has explained to the Indian delegation technical requirements of the UN solution, which the Indian delegation has obviously agreed and promised to revert within due course. The delegation has acquiesced the inadequacy of their evidence.

China, as well as US, India and Pakistan etc., facing the common threat of terrorism, are ready to take measures to defend peace and maintain stability. But China is willing to take up more sophisticated means rather than simply resorting to violence, which kills but invites more violence and blood. It is not violence that will eradicate terrorism, but economic development, mutual understanding and religious toleration. Poverty is the hotbed of terrorism and war-ridden areas bears no hope of prosperity.

As to the Libya or Somalia allegation etc., you again take the plausible as the credible.

To be noted : there is an evolution taking place here in your arguments, first it was show us the evidence , then it was you did not come with the evidence and when both cases were pointed as been reported tohave been done by India - now its but ONLY US saying so is not evidence of it being true.

The US? Bro there are 5 permanent members out which 4 have unequivocally said all evidence provided in the past, not even the additional ones that china was shown this time around-was more than adequate. You seem to spin the case to try and ignore this damming fact that ALL other members have shown it to be adequate. China is the ONLY member amongst them holding it up... it defies in the face of logic of the prevelant situation to ignore the facts and to have a terrorist outfit to be protected by China.

Just like it defied logic of China's support of Sudan while the genocide was taking place... OR China's invitation of the sudanese head to its country when there is a warrant for his arrest for crimes against humanity in Hague...I just can't see why India wants to be a part of the SCO given this inexcusable stance of support of the terrorists who attacked Mumbai..

India is not asking for anti-china policies to be implemented, it's simply saying " dudes, these guys are terrorists, have been accepted to be culpable by everyone on UNSC - but you guys are simply holding it up because of what again? " - Evidence that everyone else deems more than sufficient, high standards of evidence proven that your OWN judicial system does not offer its citizenry? Bah..

 

[Veeru]

In the end harboring terrorist will cost china dear.

 

[fakein]

To be noted : there is an evolution taking place here in your arguments, first it was show us the evidence , then it was you did not come with the evidence and when both cases were pointed as been reported tohave been done by India - now its but ONLY US saying so is not evidence of it being true.

Read my posts. I've stressed inadequacy of evidence when I have to clarify what's stated in the report.

The US? Bro there are 5 permanent members out which 4 have unequivocally said all evidence provided in the past, not even the additional ones that china was shown this time around-was more than adequate. You seem to spin the case to try and ignore this damming fact that ALL other members have shown it to be adequate. China is the ONLY member amongst them holding it up... it defies in the face of logic of the prevelant situation to ignore the facts and to have a terrorist outfit to be protected by China.

This is why there's a veto.

Just like it defied logic of China's support of Sudan while the genocide was taking place... OR China's invitation of the sudanese head to its country when there is a warrant for his arrest for crimes against humanity in Hague...I just can't see why India wants to be a part of the SCO given this inexcusable stance of support of the terrorists who attacked Mumbai..

Stay on the topic. Accusing any government for not being morally clean or pure would be easy and endless.

India is not asking for anti-china policies to be implemented, it's simply saying " dudes, these guys are terrorists, have been accepted to be culpable by everyone on UNSC - but you guys are simply holding it up because of what again? " - Evidence that everyone else deems more than sufficient, high standards of evidence proven that your OWN judicial system does not offer its citizenry? Bah..

Read my posts again.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

India failed to provide information for listing militants as terrorist | Pakistan-Papers | DAWN.COM

 

[fakein]

In the end harboring terrorist will cost china dear.

China harbors not any terrorist; India does harbor separatists.

 

[ChinaToday]

In the end harboring terrorist will cost china dear.

Thank you very much for your concerned, as far as i know no one bomb our capital beijing and finacial centre shanghai yet. we must be doing some thing right.