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India helping terrorists in Pakistan: Khawaja Asif

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Payback. If India does not stop financing these groups, Pakistan will start supporting Anti State Elements in India. I think the last estimate was 26 groups in India. It will be similar to the 90's, but a lot more ferocious. I pray to God this does not happen as this will lead to a full out shooting war.
 
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Payback. If India does not stop financing these groups, Pakistan will start supporting Anti State Elements in India. I think the last estimate was 26 groups in India. It will be similar to the 90's, but a lot more ferocious. I pray to God this does not happen as this will lead to a full out shooting war.
Well you do what you have to do and we will do whatever is required to keep our country safe.
 
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Payback. If India does not stop financing these groups, Pakistan will start supporting Anti State Elements in India. I think the last estimate was 26 groups in India. It will be similar to the 90's, but a lot more ferocious. I pray to God this does not happen as this will lead to a full out shooting war.
Unlikely.
Unlike Pakistan, India has used the intervening 2 decades- from 90's to 2010's - to cement the grip of the Government over the State via unprecedented growth in modern Indian history.

In the 90's, the GoI was reactionary with few police stations and isolated areas with no infrastructure and a Govt tottering near bankruptcy.

Today, the writ of the State is strong in most areas with double the infrastructure(physical and governmental) that we had earlier. Consequently, the ability of anti-India groups to take funding and logistics from Pakistan based elements sustainably is today far more limited than the 90's.

Which is to say that even if Pakistan puts its entire resources behind anti-state elements in India, the results would be much more modest than what Pakistan achieved in India in the 90's. And India made it through then, with no major damage.

This is not even mentioning that Pakistan was able to support anti-Indian groups in East and NE India using Bangladesh as a launch pad, as BD had an Islamist Government then. Today the Islamist elements of BD have been emasculated by GoBD and India, and are on the run. Their principle opposition - BNP - today says openly that we will no longer be anti-India like we used to be in exchange for support from India.

And also not mentioning that the majority of the Western border with Pakistan is now fenced and lit. The fence has today reduced Pakistan's ability substantially. The need of an electrified fence was felt because we saw Pakistan's ability to transfer money, men and weapons across the border in the 80's & 90's.

Frankly Pakistan's ability today to inflict damage to India indirectly is barely a fraction of what it was in the 90's.

Today, Pakistan's entire efforts probably wont bother GoI much apart from their rhetoric in TV to malign Pakistan.

On the other hand, Pakistan today is in the situation that India was in the 90's - a large restive population because of lack of opportunities and social unrest because of Governmental ineptitude and a neighbour that has the means, resources and will to exploit the situation.
 
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Unlikely.
Unlike Pakistan, India has used the intervening 2 decades- from 90's to 2010's - to cement the grip of the Government over the State via unprecedented growth in modern Indian history.

In the 90's, the GoI was reactionary with few police stations and isolated areas with no infrastructure and a Govt tottering near bankruptcy.

Today, the writ of the State is strong in most areas with double the infrastructure(physical and governmental) that we had earlier. Consequently, the ability of anti-India groups to take funding and logistics from Pakistan based elements sustainably is today far more limited than the 90's.

Which is to say that even if Pakistan puts its entire resources behind anti-state elements in India, the results would be much more modest than what Pakistan could achieve in the 90's.
Paksitani delusions are good for us. Daag ache hain. :)
 
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Give me a break with this holier than thou attitude, this is exactly whats wrong with you people giving rise to the notion 'Hindu Mentality'. You people are the ones who introduced this concept of supporting terrorism in other countries.

How much proof has India been able to provide against Pakistan? Zero. I am sure you know how the world of espionage works.

We have interrogated many senior TTP and BLA commanders and they have admitted that they have received weapons and money from Indian consulates. Bramdagh Bugti was photographed in Kabul walking out of the Indian Embassy with an Indian diplomat, these pictures were shared with the Americans. These accusations are right from the horse's mouth, a CO for a Unit deployed in Bajaur around 2010 told me about these incidents. It does not get anymore credible than this. It is largely a payback for the 90's, the question is how long will Pakistan tolerate this intransigence from India before launching its own covert war against India?

Your muslim mentality tells u to believe the anacdote your army friend told you. Fine. The muslim mentality is a topic of discussion all over the world these days. So ill file this under 'convictions and experiences of muslim mentality actively engaged in terrorism and hence seeking false moral equivalency' or 'CEMMAcEnTHeSeeFaME' folder.
 
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Even if false,we should pump this into media,let counter every indian statement with they supporting terrorism in Pakistan

Hahahaha :omghaha::omghaha::omghaha::omghaha::omghaha::omghaha:.

Thanks for letting the cat out the bag Farhan, no wonder Pakistan is going down the toilet.
What next going back to the theory of 'good Taliban and bad Taliban'. o_O

We don't need to do anything...mark by words, the Pakistanis, at the rate they are going will destroy themselves as an effective state, just as the Syrians have done.
 
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I don't know about India. I do know that the terrorists are supported, fed and sheltered by mullahs in mosques/madrassahs throughout the country. They are then given political cover by politicians like IK and Maulana Diesel. Their weapons are smuggled throughout the country by drug cartels run exclusively by people based in the tribal areas.

Typical of the government to point out a foreign hand when it has failed in its duty to the nation. It is helpless when it comes to stopping attacks. helpless when it comes to Mullahs spewing hatred from their loud speakers, helpless when the sectarian outfits openly rally and talk about doing centuries of killings of Shias etc.

No, this is a Pakistani enterprise through and through, facilitated by Pakistanis, supported by other Pakistanis and carried out by other Pakistanis. The sooner we accept this, the sooner we can find a solution.
 
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