India-Greece-Armenia vs Turkey-Pakistan-Azerbaijan Strategic Alliances

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Unfortunately, the domestic political situation can't give a respite to the geo-strategic developments.....

Ardan Zenturk - the editor-in-chief of M5, Turkey's largest and most circulated magazine on strategic and defense related matters - is surprised to see India meddling in Turkey's core strategic issues at an alarming level. His major points:

• IK, who's now in jail, provided unambiguous support during the liberation of Karaba'.
• India is now Armenia's major arms supplier as Russia is busy with the Ukranian War.
• India has become a top strategic partner of Greece. The IN and IAF are exercising with the Greek forces in the East Med.
• The strong Indian lobby in the DC is working against Turkey.
• The USA has an "invisible" hand behind this.
• Unfortunately, most of the Turkish experts in the media or academia are quite ignorant of these facts.
• Turkey needs to get extremely serious with these Indian involvements.
• Etc.

 

[Ahmadbhutta01]

Armenia has distanced itself from Russia to buy usa support, the weapon Armenia is buying from India is being paid by usa

 

[VkdIndian]

If Turkey can supply weapons to Pakistan, why can’t India do the same to Armenia? While Armenia is not even in a direct conflict with Turkey.

Doosaron ka kutta, kutta, aur apna kutta Tommy?

 

[RealDeal]

Unfortunately, the domestic political situation can't give a respite to the geo-strategic developments.....

Ardan Zenturk - the editor-in-chief of M5, Turkey's largest and most circulated magazine on strategic and defense related matters - is surprised to see India meddling in Turkey's core strategic issues at an alarming level. His major points:

• IK, who's now in jail, provided unambiguous support during the liberation of Karaba'.
• India is now Armenia's major arms supplier as Russia is busy with the Ukranian War.
• India has become a top strategic partner of Greece. The IN and IAF are exercising with the Greek forces in the East Med.
• The strong Indian lobby in the DC is working against Turkey.
• The USA has an "invisible" hand behind this.
• Unfortunately, most of the Turkish experts in the media or academia are quite ignorant of these facts.
• Turkey needs to get extremely serious with these Indian involvements.
• Etc.

Trying to be more Turkish than turks themselves , why don't you add some more of those cringe Turkish one liners you add to your posts to make it sound more authentic?

Try as much as you want but outside this forum there is no bad blood between India and Turkey. Turkey and India are thousands of miles apart, there is no conflict whatsoever, except in wet dreams. Several thousand Indians go to Turkey each year for tourism they havent even heard of any sort of rivalry. Some immature kids on both sides try to make things seem bigger than they are and some Pakistani cheerleaders like you have boner for some time before realizing that things are not heating up nearly as much as they want

This Armenia war is a small time business war and despite your lame attempts to portray it as a religious war, everyone knows otherwise. You deliberately removed Israel from Pakistani group and Iran from Indian group since it wouldnt have the same emotional effect then .

Turkey will keep doing lip service to Kashmir cause to keep you happy, and some BJP ministers will keep taking potshots at Turkey but trade relations will continue to grow. Erdogan has limited time left anyway with runaway inflation and Lira becoming toilet paper

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/analysis/analysis-turkiye-india-ties-have-a-bright-future-ahead/2690680

3 Key Reasons Why Turkey Is Keen To Reset Its Ties With India & Keep Its Pro-Pakistan, Pro-Kashmir Sentiments On Backburner

Indians are now the third-largest tourists in Turkey after China and Indonesia. India's businesses, from food to technology, have been expanding in Turkey.

www.eurasiantimes.com

 

[nibba]

Get serious how? Turkey is already open to pakistan buying their weapon systems.

 

[ThunderCat]

I don't think it will happen.

 

[ThunderCat]

If Turkey can supply weapons to Pakistan, why can’t India do the same to Armenia?
Doosaron ka kutta, kutta, aur apna kutta Tommy?

Because Turkey just might also supply to India.

 

[VkdIndian]

Because Turkey just might also supply to India.

They are. They made some ships and more are likely.

Turks are a pragmatic lot. They don’t mix business and sentiments. Unlike Paksiatn, where business is ALWAYS mixed with sentiments. A good example of this is Israel. Turkey makes all the right noises against them, but it has a booming trade with them.

They would see this as a good opportunity and sell more arms to AZ, while our friend here would keep creating threads over imaginary and unfounded hopes of creating an alliance.

 

[ThunderCat]

They are. They made some ships and more are likely.

Turks are a pragmatic lot. They don’t mix business and sentiments. Unlike Paksiatn, where business is ALWAYS mixed with sentiments. A good example of this is Israel. Turkey makes all the right noises against them, but it has a booming trade with them.

They would see this as a good opportunity and sell more arms to AZ, while our friend here would keep creating threads in some unknown and unfounded hopes.

True for sometimes. For example Ukraine. It sold weapons to Ukraine but also managed to buy wheat from the Russian Federation.

 

[VkdIndian]

For example Ukraine. It sold weapons to Ukraine but also managed to buy wheat from the Russian Federation.

True. Many nations have done this.
Russia sold S400 to India as well as China. So is the case with so many types of combat aircraft.
Taiwan and China are sworn enemies but have a booming trade. Same is the case between Japan and China.

Most funny part is the heading of the thread that Op has given -“

India-Greece-Armenia vs Turkey-Pakistan-Azerbaijan Strategic Alliances”​

He is trying to create an alliance out of thin air. Kuch bhi?

 

[indushek]

True. Many nations have done this.
Russia sold S400 to India as well as China. So is the case with so many types of combat aircraft.
Taiwan and China are sworn enemies but have a booming trade. Same is the case between Japan and China.

Most funny part is the heading of the thread that Op has given -“

India-Greece-Armenia vs Turkey-Pakistan-Azerbaijan Strategic Alliances”​

He is trying to create an alliance out of thin air. Kuch bhi?

Turkish design has been selected for Indian Navy's tanker fleet, and six of them will be built.

There was also talk of Turkish drones at one point, but we went for Israeli ones along with US one's now (given that we already operate Heron 1 in good number). Who knows in future there might be private partnerships, if some initiatives are taken up.

Turkey has full rights to have a good relation with Pakistan, but I don't think they are going to do it in a way that India feels threatened. Similarly India will never try to directly impinge on Turkey's national interests, I mean why should we?

Greece is fast becoming a focal point currently, because our plans to use Iran as gateway to Europe through Chahbahar hasn't moved forward well. American reticence on easing Iranian sanctions is causing problems, so India is bound to look for alternative gateways.

 

[indushek]

Unfortunately, the domestic political situation can't give a respite to the geo-strategic developments.....

Ardan Zenturk - the editor-in-chief of M5, Turkey's largest and most circulated magazine on strategic and defense related matters - is surprised to see India meddling in Turkey's core strategic issues at an alarming level. His major points:

• IK, who's now in jail, provided unambiguous support during the liberation of Karaba'.
• India is now Armenia's major arms supplier as Russia is busy with the Ukranian War.
• India has become a top strategic partner of Greece. The IN and IAF are exercising with the Greek forces in the East Med.
• The strong Indian lobby in the DC is working against Turkey.
• The USA has an "invisible" hand behind this.
• Unfortunately, most of the Turkish experts in the media or academia are quite ignorant of these facts.
• Turkey needs to get extremely serious with these Indian involvements.
• Etc.

What does India have to do with Ik's support or no support towards liberation of Karaba?

Indian arms supply to Armenia, poses no direct or indirect threat to Turkey. Its transactional and India just replaced Russia here.

India and Greece are just starting on a partnership, other than few military exercises not much has happened. Multilateral exercises between two sovereign nations isn't always aimed at a third country. The term strategic is misleading, as you will have to provide examples of it. For example has India sided with Greece, on any bilateral disputes between Greece and Turkey? Given any statements to that effect, like Turkey has vis a vis Kashmir?

Indian Lobby in DC working against Turkish interests? Again what are the examples? What locus standi does India have to even affect Washington's decision making, when it comes to Turkish matters?

The bolded part is actually condescending and humiliating to Turkish Govt's intelligence, do you mean to say they are so unaware of who is doing what around them? Please don't use such condescending rhetoric

Extremely serious, what do you suggest they do?

Etc - Guess you couldn't think of any other irrelevant point by the time you got till here.


Basically you mentioned two current events as point 1 and 2, and then used your bias to write the rest as some kind of informed analysis. Analyzing raw data isn't that easy, which is why there are specialists for it and they are called Analysts in whichever field they are. You aren't one for sure.

 

[jbond197]

If Turkey can supply weapons to Pakistan, why can’t India do the same to Armenia? While Armenia is not even in a direct conflict with Turkey.

Doosaron ka kutta, kutta, aur apna kutta Tommy?

These Pakistanis are hilarious. Even when their own country is in a terrible state, they nonetheless think they can influence world order. Gosh it's high time they realize Pakistan is completely irrelevant.

 

[RayKalm]

If Turkey can supply weapons to Pakistan, why can’t India do the same to Armenia? While Armenia is not even in a direct conflict with Turkey.

Doosaron ka kutta, kutta, aur apna kutta Tommy?

India has also bought and been supplied with weapons from Turkey. You bought Turkish drones iirc

 

[Foinikas]

India has become a top strategic partner of Greece. The IN and IAF are exercising with the Greek forces in the East Med.

No it hasn't. Stop spreading misinformation.

We had like two exercises along with a lot of other countries.