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Afghanistan Boldly Raises Its Colors, as Never Before
By ROD NORDLANDSEPT. 13, 2014


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Afghan soldiers with the largest national flag, a gift from India, after an inauguration ceremony on Wednesday at Wazir Akbar Khan hill in Kabul. Credit Shah Marai/Agence France-Presse — Getty Images

KABUL, Afghanistan — To find a flag as big as the one hoisted over Kabul’s historic Wazir Akbar Khan hill on Wednesday, you would have to go pretty far — possibly as far as a Walmart parking lot somewhere in the Great Plains.

Flying from a specially erected flagpole more than 200 feet high — taller than the Statue of Liberty replica in Las Vegas — the black, red and green flag, at 97 by 65 feet, is big enough to drape over a Dreadnoughtus dinosaur (tail included). It is hundreds of square yards bigger than any other known Afghan banner.

Oddly, despite 13 years and more than half a trillion dollars of American investment in Afghanistan, when this country finally got its first supersized flag to fly over the capital last week, the donor was not from among the descendants of Betsy Ross.


Instead, the Afghan megaflag was personally presented by Sushma Swaraj, the new foreign minister of India. The half-million-dollar gift was partly underwritten by an Indian billionaire, Naveen Jindal, whose Flag Foundation of India was founded to encourage Indian homes to fly their own flags at a practically American rate.

Political pundits quickly noted the symbolism of India’s helping Afghanistan erect a flag big enough to be seen from the American surveillance blimp on the other side of the capital. The point would surely not be lost on Pakistan, which has always looked unfavorably at overtures between India and Afghanistan.

The Indian flag project is also seen as a subtle message to the Americans, who are bringing their combat mission in Afghanistan to a close this year without any guarantee yet of a future military role here. The bilateral security agreement that would allow that remains unsigned by President Hamid Karzai, and the inauguration of his successor is months overdue, hung up by a protracted election dispute.

“This will show Pakistan, and further weaken its role in Afghanistan,” said the political analyst Bashir Bezhan. “And for President Karzai, it would have a message to the West that his neighboring powers are behind him.”

Ms. Swaraj said at the flag-raising ceremony, “India will always be the first strategic partner of Afghanistan, and we are committed to assist Afghanistan in whatever way possible within our means.”

Flags have had a tattered history in Afghanistan, with a succession of different ones during the past 35 years of civil war and insurgency.

The Taliban, for instance, went counterintuitive, sticking with a plain white banner — until someone pointed out that that was for surrendering, and they added the Shahada verses to it in black.

Before the raising of the megaflag, a visitor could easily have driven across this sprawling capital of five million residents without seeing a single Afghan drapeau. Flagpoles are rare even in the government district.

“At least in the last 50 years, there has not been anything like this in Afghanistan,” Mr. Bezhan said.

A few years ago, there had been an Afghan flag just big enough to be seen from many parts of the city on the top of the mountain in its middle, Asmai Mountain, better known as TV Hill because of all its broadcasting towers. But the flag was gradually beaten to shreds in the wind and never replaced.

Then the Indian Embassy came up with the idea of a gift of the giant flag, made of windproof synthetic textiles, and Mr. Jindal was eager to help underwrite it. “There was no single monument of Afghanistan as a nation,” said Niteen Yeola, an Indian diplomat here. “We thought this would be a good symbol of unity.”

The new flag is flying over Wazir Akbar Khan hill, next to the empty Communist-era swimming pool once used by the Taliban for executions. The monument is being called the Menara Bayraq, or Flag Minaret.

The 15-ton flagpole is high enough to make the flag visible from nearly all quarters of the city. The pole was flown in from India in segments, then erected to be earthquake-proof by Indian engineers.

At the flag-raising, Mr. Karzai pushed a button to mechanically hoist it into place, while the Indian foreign minister and he cut a ribbon and passed out chocolates to assembled dignitaries.

India’s support for Afghanistan is more than symbolic. While more often a recipient than a donor country, India has budgeted about $2 billion in aid to Afghanistan through the war years — making Afghanistan one of its biggest foreign aid beneficiaries. None of that is direct military aid, and it is a pittance compared to the $89 billion in aid from the United States just through 2012. But some of that money has been spent on particularly high-profile projects, such as a huge, $238 million Parliament building, expected to open next year.

Flags may be a slightly harder sell. Even more than a decade of fighting alongside Americans has not done much to build a flag-waving culture here, even in the Afghan military.

“The Americans had flags everywhere, even on their vehicles,” said Hajji Zahair, who served in the Afghan National Army for five years in some of the worst parts of the country, and was wounded in fighting in Kandahar Province. “We would have maybe one on the base somewhere.”

Mr. Zahair, now a jobless veteran, had come to see the new flag for himself, and was very impressed. “I hope it serves as a symbol of unity for us and brings us together,” he said.

Afghanistan’s relative underflagging is just the sort of challenge appreciated by Mr. Jindal, the Indian steel magnate and politician who has dedicated himself to propagating flag displays back home.

In a way, though, Kabul’s giant new flag does have an American origin — via Mr. Jindal. He went there to earn his master’s degree in business administration at the University of Texas at Dallas, and was deeply impressed by how many American homes and businesses were adorned with the red, white and blue.

When he got home, he was outraged that Indian law strictly limited flag displays, and campaigned successfully to give everyone the right to fly India’s saffron, white and green whenever and wherever they wanted.

Fazal Muzhary and Jawad Sukhanyar contributed reporting.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/14/w...ldly-raises-its-colors-like-never-before.html
 
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Babe Jindal is doing a big mistake.

The pup should understand that $$$ won't save India.

We are very allergic to the Bollywood babe culture.

Once we finish off with Israel (take few key pups down) - We will be focusing on Modi tard and his Chalees pups.

We really have something massive stored for India.

We were the ones that knew about 2010 Pak floods. We posted that here on PDF few months ago before 2010 floods came in. Some of us are responsible for controlling the waves. Some are responsible for shaking. We are the ones that knew about 2014 flood. We also know who is shipping over $$$$ to India. Babe hun in Europe and Amrika won't survive 10 years down the road. India will NEVER EVER be a true superpower. Ask Israel to pump you within these 10 years and make you a cosmetic laden babe. If you think we are drunktard pups living in the fantasy land - Think again. Think before it is too late.

We also know something far bigger coming to India. We will be coming to India.
 
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Friend dont derail the topic.Ignore that troll.

On topic.Indeed a good development .Lets hope for a unity and prosperity in Afghanistan.
 
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India is probably only country that gifts Afghanistan with cricket stadiums and flag posts, too much symbolism imo?
 
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I feel proud n indebted whenever I see our national tricolor flying.
I hope this flag has the same effect on Afghans.
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The Indian flag project is also seen as a subtle message to the Americans, who are bringing their combat mission in Afghanistan to a close this year without any guarantee yet of a future military role here. The bilateral security agreement that would allow that remains unsigned by President Hamid Karzai, and the inauguration of his successor is months overdue, hung up by a protracted election dispute.
“This will show Pakistan, and further weaken its role in Afghanistan,” said the political analyst Bashir Bezhan. “And for President Karzai, it would have a message to the West that his neighboring powers are behind him.”
o_O wow what a strategic bombshell flag it is. well done india




Flags may be a slightly harder sell. Even more than a decade of fighting alongside Americans has not done much to build a flag-waving culture here, even in the Afghan military.

:))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

@saad445566

Your sarcasm on Pakistani members was nice but we are not that much wrong about Indian babes
 
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Afghanistan Boldly Raises Its Colors, as Never Before
By ROD NORDLANDSEPT. 13, 2014


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Afghan soldiers with the largest national flag, a gift from India, after an inauguration ceremony on Wednesday at Wazir Akbar Khan hill in Kabul. Credit Shah Marai/Agence France-Presse — Getty Images

KABUL, Afghanistan — To find a flag as big as the one hoisted over Kabul’s historic Wazir Akbar Khan hill on Wednesday, you would have to go pretty far — possibly as far as a Walmart parking lot somewhere in the Great Plains.

Flying from a specially erected flagpole more than 200 feet high — taller than the Statue of Liberty replica in Las Vegas — the black, red and green flag, at 97 by 65 feet, is big enough to drape over a Dreadnoughtus dinosaur (tail included). It is hundreds of square yards bigger than any other known Afghan banner.

Oddly, despite 13 years and more than half a trillion dollars of American investment in Afghanistan, when this country finally got its first supersized flag to fly over the capital last week, the donor was not from among the descendants of Betsy Ross.


Instead, the Afghan megaflag was personally presented by Sushma Swaraj, the new foreign minister of India. The half-million-dollar gift was partly underwritten by an Indian billionaire, Naveen Jindal, whose Flag Foundation of India was founded to encourage Indian homes to fly their own flags at a practically American rate.

Political pundits quickly noted the symbolism of India’s helping Afghanistan erect a flag big enough to be seen from the American surveillance blimp on the other side of the capital. The point would surely not be lost on Pakistan, which has always looked unfavorably at overtures between India and Afghanistan.

The Indian flag project is also seen as a subtle message to the Americans, who are bringing their combat mission in Afghanistan to a close this year without any guarantee yet of a future military role here. The bilateral security agreement that would allow that remains unsigned by President Hamid Karzai, and the inauguration of his successor is months overdue, hung up by a protracted election dispute.

“This will show Pakistan, and further weaken its role in Afghanistan,” said the political analyst Bashir Bezhan. “And for President Karzai, it would have a message to the West that his neighboring powers are behind him.”

Ms. Swaraj said at the flag-raising ceremony, “India will always be the first strategic partner of Afghanistan, and we are committed to assist Afghanistan in whatever way possible within our means.”

Flags have had a tattered history in Afghanistan, with a succession of different ones during the past 35 years of civil war and insurgency.

The Taliban, for instance, went counterintuitive, sticking with a plain white banner — until someone pointed out that that was for surrendering, and they added the Shahada verses to it in black.

Before the raising of the megaflag, a visitor could easily have driven across this sprawling capital of five million residents without seeing a single Afghan drapeau. Flagpoles are rare even in the government district.

“At least in the last 50 years, there has not been anything like this in Afghanistan,” Mr. Bezhan said.

A few years ago, there had been an Afghan flag just big enough to be seen from many parts of the city on the top of the mountain in its middle, Asmai Mountain, better known as TV Hill because of all its broadcasting towers. But the flag was gradually beaten to shreds in the wind and never replaced.

Then the Indian Embassy came up with the idea of a gift of the giant flag, made of windproof synthetic textiles, and Mr. Jindal was eager to help underwrite it. “There was no single monument of Afghanistan as a nation,” said Niteen Yeola, an Indian diplomat here. “We thought this would be a good symbol of unity.”

The new flag is flying over Wazir Akbar Khan hill, next to the empty Communist-era swimming pool once used by the Taliban for executions. The monument is being called the Menara Bayraq, or Flag Minaret.

The 15-ton flagpole is high enough to make the flag visible from nearly all quarters of the city. The pole was flown in from India in segments, then erected to be earthquake-proof by Indian engineers.

At the flag-raising, Mr. Karzai pushed a button to mechanically hoist it into place, while the Indian foreign minister and he cut a ribbon and passed out chocolates to assembled dignitaries.

India’s support for Afghanistan is more than symbolic. While more often a recipient than a donor country, India has budgeted about $2 billion in aid to Afghanistan through the war years — making Afghanistan one of its biggest foreign aid beneficiaries. None of that is direct military aid, and it is a pittance compared to the $89 billion in aid from the United States just through 2012. But some of that money has been spent on particularly high-profile projects, such as a huge, $238 million Parliament building, expected to open next year.

Flags may be a slightly harder sell. Even more than a decade of fighting alongside Americans has not done much to build a flag-waving culture here, even in the Afghan military.

“The Americans had flags everywhere, even on their vehicles,” said Hajji Zahair, who served in the Afghan National Army for five years in some of the worst parts of the country, and was wounded in fighting in Kandahar Province. “We would have maybe one on the base somewhere.”

Mr. Zahair, now a jobless veteran, had come to see the new flag for himself, and was very impressed. “I hope it serves as a symbol of unity for us and brings us together,” he said.

Afghanistan’s relative underflagging is just the sort of challenge appreciated by Mr. Jindal, the Indian steel magnate and politician who has dedicated himself to propagating flag displays back home.

In a way, though, Kabul’s giant new flag does have an American origin — via Mr. Jindal. He went there to earn his master’s degree in business administration at the University of Texas at Dallas, and was deeply impressed by how many American homes and businesses were adorned with the red, white and blue.

When he got home, he was outraged that Indian law strictly limited flag displays, and campaigned successfully to give everyone the right to fly India’s saffron, white and green whenever and wherever they wanted.

Fazal Muzhary and Jawad Sukhanyar contributed reporting.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/14/w...ldly-raises-its-colors-like-never-before.html

Awesome!! We are their to build, not to destroy. :)

In the long run good will win against evil...........!! :)
 
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Babe Jindal is doing a big mistake.

The pup should understand that $$$ won't save India.

We are very allergic to the Bollywood babe culture.

Once we finish off with Israel (take few key pups down) - We will be focusing on Modi tard and his Chalees pups.

We really have something massive stored for India.

We were the ones that knew about 2010 Pak floods. We posted that here on PDF few months ago before 2010 floods came in. Some of us are responsible for controlling the waves. Some are responsible for shaking. We are the ones that knew about 2014 flood. We also know who is shipping over $$$$ to India. Babe hun in Europe and Amrika won't survive 10 years down the road. India will NEVER EVER be a true superpower. Ask Israel to pump you within these 10 years and make you a cosmetic laden babe. If you think we are drunktard pups living in the fantasy land - Think again. Think before it is too late.

We also know something far bigger coming to India. We will be coming to India.

Control your Bollywood babes.
What is this.
 
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o_O wow what a strategic bombshell flag it is. well done india






:))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

@saad445566

Your sarcasm on Pakistani members was nice but we are not that much wrong about Indian babes

Oh thank you, your condescension only proves we are on the right track and as an added bonus pissing off our enemies.
 
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Afghanistan Boldly Raises Its Colors, as Never Before
By ROD NORDLANDSEPT. 13, 2014


View attachment 49214

Afghan soldiers with the largest national flag, a gift from India, after an inauguration ceremony on Wednesday at Wazir Akbar Khan hill in Kabul. Credit Shah Marai/Agence France-Presse — Getty Images

KABUL, Afghanistan — To find a flag as big as the one hoisted over Kabul’s historic Wazir Akbar Khan hill on Wednesday, you would have to go pretty far — possibly as far as a Walmart parking lot somewhere in the Great Plains.

Flying from a specially erected flagpole more than 200 feet high — taller than the Statue of Liberty replica in Las Vegas — the black, red and green flag, at 97 by 65 feet, is big enough to drape over a Dreadnoughtus dinosaur (tail included). It is hundreds of square yards bigger than any other known Afghan banner.

Oddly, despite 13 years and more than half a trillion dollars of American investment in Afghanistan, when this country finally got its first supersized flag to fly over the capital last week, the donor was not from among the descendants of Betsy Ross.


Instead, the Afghan megaflag was personally presented by Sushma Swaraj, the new foreign minister of India. The half-million-dollar gift was partly underwritten by an Indian billionaire, Naveen Jindal, whose Flag Foundation of India was founded to encourage Indian homes to fly their own flags at a practically American rate.

Political pundits quickly noted the symbolism of India’s helping Afghanistan erect a flag big enough to be seen from the American surveillance blimp on the other side of the capital. The point would surely not be lost on Pakistan, which has always looked unfavorably at overtures between India and Afghanistan.

The Indian flag project is also seen as a subtle message to the Americans, who are bringing their combat mission in Afghanistan to a close this year without any guarantee yet of a future military role here. The bilateral security agreement that would allow that remains unsigned by President Hamid Karzai, and the inauguration of his successor is months overdue, hung up by a protracted election dispute.

“This will show Pakistan, and further weaken its role in Afghanistan,” said the political analyst Bashir Bezhan. “And for President Karzai, it would have a message to the West that his neighboring powers are behind him.”

Ms. Swaraj said at the flag-raising ceremony, “India will always be the first strategic partner of Afghanistan, and we are committed to assist Afghanistan in whatever way possible within our means.”

Flags have had a tattered history in Afghanistan, with a succession of different ones during the past 35 years of civil war and insurgency.

The Taliban, for instance, went counterintuitive, sticking with a plain white banner — until someone pointed out that that was for surrendering, and they added the Shahada verses to it in black.

Before the raising of the megaflag, a visitor could easily have driven across this sprawling capital of five million residents without seeing a single Afghan drapeau. Flagpoles are rare even in the government district.

“At least in the last 50 years, there has not been anything like this in Afghanistan,” Mr. Bezhan said.

A few years ago, there had been an Afghan flag just big enough to be seen from many parts of the city on the top of the mountain in its middle, Asmai Mountain, better known as TV Hill because of all its broadcasting towers. But the flag was gradually beaten to shreds in the wind and never replaced.

Then the Indian Embassy came up with the idea of a gift of the giant flag, made of windproof synthetic textiles, and Mr. Jindal was eager to help underwrite it. “There was no single monument of Afghanistan as a nation,” said Niteen Yeola, an Indian diplomat here. “We thought this would be a good symbol of unity.”

The new flag is flying over Wazir Akbar Khan hill, next to the empty Communist-era swimming pool once used by the Taliban for executions. The monument is being called the Menara Bayraq, or Flag Minaret.

The 15-ton flagpole is high enough to make the flag visible from nearly all quarters of the city. The pole was flown in from India in segments, then erected to be earthquake-proof by Indian engineers.

At the flag-raising, Mr. Karzai pushed a button to mechanically hoist it into place, while the Indian foreign minister and he cut a ribbon and passed out chocolates to assembled dignitaries.

India’s support for Afghanistan is more than symbolic. While more often a recipient than a donor country, India has budgeted about $2 billion in aid to Afghanistan through the war years — making Afghanistan one of its biggest foreign aid beneficiaries. None of that is direct military aid, and it is a pittance compared to the $89 billion in aid from the United States just through 2012. But some of that money has been spent on particularly high-profile projects, such as a huge, $238 million Parliament building, expected to open next year.

Flags may be a slightly harder sell. Even more than a decade of fighting alongside Americans has not done much to build a flag-waving culture here, even in the Afghan military.

“The Americans had flags everywhere, even on their vehicles,” said Hajji Zahair, who served in the Afghan National Army for five years in some of the worst parts of the country, and was wounded in fighting in Kandahar Province. “We would have maybe one on the base somewhere.”

Mr. Zahair, now a jobless veteran, had come to see the new flag for himself, and was very impressed. “I hope it serves as a symbol of unity for us and brings us together,” he said.

Afghanistan’s relative underflagging is just the sort of challenge appreciated by Mr. Jindal, the Indian steel magnate and politician who has dedicated himself to propagating flag displays back home.

In a way, though, Kabul’s giant new flag does have an American origin — via Mr. Jindal. He went there to earn his master’s degree in business administration at the University of Texas at Dallas, and was deeply impressed by how many American homes and businesses were adorned with the red, white and blue.

When he got home, he was outraged that Indian law strictly limited flag displays, and campaigned successfully to give everyone the right to fly India’s saffron, white and green whenever and wherever they wanted.

Fazal Muzhary and Jawad Sukhanyar contributed reporting.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/14/w...ldly-raises-its-colors-like-never-before.html
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great work dude ....
some more
Why India is the talk of the town in Afghanistan this election season | Latest News & Updates at Daily News & Analysis
India Stepping Up to the Plate in Afghanistan | The Diplomat
 
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India is probably only country that gifts Afghanistan with cricket stadiums and flag posts, too much symbolism imo?

symbolism is very very important . It plays a big role.

As far as this write up about flag donation is concerned i had highlighted few lines in my earlier post , that is what is wrong with Indian assumption rest the symbolism is an important tool
 
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Babe Jindal is doing a big mistake.

The pup should understand that $$$ won't save India.

We are very allergic to the Bollywood babe culture.

Once we finish off with Israel (take few key pups down) - We will be focusing on Modi tard and his Chalees pups.

We really have something massive stored for India.

We were the ones that knew about 2010 Pak floods. We posted that here on PDF few months ago before 2010 floods came in. Some of us are responsible for controlling the waves. Some are responsible for shaking. We are the ones that knew about 2014 flood. We also know who is shipping over $$$$ to India. Babe hun in Europe and Amrika won't survive 10 years down the road. India will NEVER EVER be a true superpower. Ask Israel to pump you within these 10 years and make you a cosmetic laden babe. If you think we are drunktard pups living in the fantasy land - Think again. Think before it is too late.

We also know something far bigger coming to India. We will be coming to India.

Admin isn't this post offensive?? or daydreaming and such hate comments are allowed?
 
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