India Gearing Up To Deploy Its Much-Awaited S-400 Missiles By Early Next Year To Neutralize PLAAF’s Stealth Advantage?

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Then India should try to evict the Chinese from Ladakh…

 

[mig25]

Why even bother with such news?

The JF-17 has already proved itself to be a Rafale killer. There are several videos on Pakistani news media and social media about how Jf-17 Killed the Rafale in a recently concluded exercise.

The S400 is also a dud on arrival since Pakistan already has an established Cognitive Electronic Warfare system to "surprise" India.

This is from Pakistan. We are not talking China yet.

Just Jf-17 and secretive "surprises" from Pakistan will take care of any such current and future purchases.

We Indians are doomed!!!

 

[FOOLS_NIGHTMARE]

As long as S400 operators remember to target correctly it should be fine

Well you know, Indians are full of pleasant surprises.Nevertheless if they miss we can do the job for them.

 

[blueazure]

soviet made junk, totally embarrassed armenian air defenders against azeri suicide drones

 

[Vapnope]

Why even bother with such news?

The JF-17 has already proved itself to be a Rafale killer. There are several videos on Pakistani news media and social media about how Jf-17 Killed the Rafale in a recently concluded exercise.

The S400 is also a dud on arrival since Pakistan already has an established Cognitive Electronic Warfare system to "surprise" India.

This is from Pakistan. We are not talking China yet.

Just Jf-17 and secretive "surprises" from Pakistan will take care of any such current and future purchases.

We Indians are doomed!!!

Dude no Pakistani poster mentioned Pakistan here...

 

[blueazure]

soviet made junk - pt 2

even the Tor M2 , which is supposed to be the point defence 'guardian' for the S 300, was useless against the Harpy

 

[blueazure]

Why even bother with such news?


The S400 is also a dud on arrival since Pakistan already has an established Cognitive Electronic Warfare system to "surprise" India.

the soviet made junk aka the S 300 /400 /Tor M2 couldnt even check a lousy Turkish TB2 UAV . the armenian rout can be blamed on the dismal performance of their air defence units

i hope indian air defence controllers have better binoculars

 

[Black Tornado]

soviet made junk - pt 2

even the Tor M2 , which is supposed to be the point defence 'guardian' for the S 300, was useless against the Harpy

Harpy is a very advanced suicide drone, our enemies don’t have harpy, but Indian Airforce does have a lot of harpies.

 

[blueazure]

Harpy is a very advanced suicide drone, our enemies don’t have harpy, but Indian Airforce does have a lot of harpies.

yeap.

... and your enemy can potentially order a lot of TB2's

checkmate .. game over

 

[Black Tornado]

yeap.

... and your enemy can potentially order a lot of TB2's

checkmate .. game over

TB2s were able to wreck havoc only after those Harpy drones eliminated the air defenses else those would have had no chances. Meanwhile we are buying MQ9 Reaper Predator-B UCAVs.

 

[mudas777]

India will very soon have a deadly combination of “omni-role” Rafale fighter jets and S-400 air defense systems to guard its border with China — from Arunachal Pradesh to Ladakh, according to defense analysts.

The two nuclear-armed neighbors have been locked in a border standoff in Ladakh for more than a year now. Almaz Antey Corporation, the manufacturer of S-400 Triumf, had earlier confirmed that delivery of the system would begin in December irrespective of the pandemic.

Russia recently also tested the upgraded S-500 system, firing at a high-speed ballistic target at a training ground in the Astrakhan Region.

The S-400 Triumf. (Via Twitter)
The EurAsian Times earlier reported that the Chinese PLA has set up two squadrons of S-400 anti-aircraft missile systems at the Hotan airbase in Xinjiang and Nyingchi airbase in Tibet, close to the Line of Actual Control, the de facto India-China border.

Will This Invite US Sanctions?
The Russian S-400 Triumf (NATO name SA-21 Growler) is one of the most advanced missile defense systems in the world.

Younis Dar, a defense correspondent with EurAsian Times, had outlined the superior features of the defense system which could be a “game-changer” for the Indian military.

With a range of detection that extends to as far as 600 km, the S-400 is a winning bet at the western front as the moment an aircraft or a missile gets airborne in Pakistan, the system will warn India. It is highly mobile and can be readied in a matter of minutes to execute a strike.

All the radars, missiles, and launchers of the S-400 are mounted on 8×8 cross-country trucks, making them difficult to be tracked and destroyed.

It is equipped with a 92N6E electronically-steered phased array radar, also called the “Grave Stone”, which can detect 300 targets simultaneously and fire four different missile types at them based on the threat and range.

The defense system was seen in action in Syria when the Russian government deployed it in response to the downing of its Su-24M jet by Turkey. In 2015, the first S-400 unit was activated at the Khmeimim Air Base in Latakia city while in 2017; a second S-400 unit was activated 13 km from the city of Masyaf in northwestern Syria.

The S-400 remains a major irritant in US-Turkey relations as the former refused to sell its fifth-generation F-35 fighter jets to Ankara, a NATO ally, in response to their acquisition of the Russian S-400 missiles.

The S-400 system was also ordered by India in a $5.43-billion deal with Russia during the 19th India-Russia Annual Bilateral Summit in 2018 at New Delhi, to ensure the long-term security needs of the country.

The US was visibly irked when India had decided to carry forward with its purchase of Russian weaponry. There were media reports highlighting the possibility of applying Countering America’s Adversaries Through Sanctions Act (CAATSA) on India, under which Turkey was sanctioned.

The radars of S-400 Triumf. (via Twitter)
However, three factors seem to work in favor of India. One, the country is not a NATO ally, thus is not bound by military obligations. India has always followed an independent military and foreign policy and to date maintains “strategic autonomy”.
Two, a major part of the US concerns stem from Russia acquiring the intelligence of the F-35 fighter jet, giving the latter a combat edge over the US. But since India was never offered the F-35 and does not plan to purchase them in near future, such a fear is completely baseless.

Three, India forms an integral pillar of QUAD, a four-member security alliance of the US, India, Japan, and Australia. Amid a rising China, the US has found a “natural ally” in India which is the only country in the Indo-Pacific region to share a territorial boundary with China.

Deploying S-400 Against China
Speaking to EurAsian Times, Abhijit Iyer-Mitra, a senior fellow at the New Delhi-based Institute of Peace and Conflict Studies says there is a high possibility of India deploying the latest S-400 defense system against the Chinese.

“It’s a very high likelihood given how Rafale jets have also been deployed against China rather than Pakistan,” he said.

A fly-past during the induction of Rafales into Hasimara airbase. (Image: IAF)
“The S-400 is an extremely dangerous system and in practice creates a defensive shield against the Chinese aircraft, giving enough freedom and space to the Indian Rafale jets to deal with Chinese jets,” he added.

Explaining how Russia has such a policy between India and China where they sell better equipment to Indians than the Chinese, Iyer-Mitra noted that it mirrors how the US juggles between Israel and Saudi Arabia.

“They (the US) used to sell F-16s to both countries but the Israeli ones were superior so they would guarantee to shoot down the Saudi ones,” he said.

Explaining the logic of deploying S-400 closer to the China border, he said, “A general gauge of the seriousness of the matter can be taken from where a country is deploying its frontline aircraft. So if India’s newest aircraft (Rafale) is being deployed against China, the newest military equipment (S-400) will also be deployed against China.”

In terms of S-400 versus the Chinese fighters like the J-20, the S-400 has an advantage, he says.

An S-400 system fires a missile. (via Twitter)
“But NATO has quite a bit of experience against the S-400, especially in Syria, where Russia had deployed the S-400 to protect its military posts,” he said.

French already have a lot of electronic intelligence on the Russian system which has been fed into the Rafale jets. “Rafale(Indian) against the S-400 (Chinese) is a much better bet than the Russian defense system against the Chinese J-20 and other fighters,” he noted.

Dar, when reviewing Indian Rafales against China’s J-20 jets and S-400 missiles, noted that Rafale jets have operated against the S-400s and know the systems quite well.

China, on the other hand, has been operating the S-400 for quite some time, but they have no experience of using them against French-origin jets in comparison to Su-30 and other Russian-origin jets.

This gives India a big advantage as Rafale under the defense umbrella of S-400 missiles would know very well how to dodge the Chinese S-400s and outflank their latest aircraft including the untested J-20s.

Indian Rafale Jets Under The Defense Shield Of S-400 Missiles Can Create Havoc On Untested Chinese Aircraft -- Analysts

India will very soon have a deadly combination of "omni-role" Rafale fighter jets and S-400 air defense systems to guard its border with China

eurasiantimes.com

Good luck with all the gadgets, however use them wisely and don't end up shooting down your own Rafale's. Remember there are always going to be clouds in the sky and ask your analysts to come up with some theory to have a clear sky before firing the missiles.

 

[PradoTLC]

We Indians are doomed!!!

100% correct…. With modi and his rss Hindu ideology …this is a guaranteed event

There are several videos on Pakistani news media and social media about how Jf-17 Killed the Rafale in a recently concluded exercise.

indian pilots seem to get shot down in any thing..su30, mig21, hunters, Mystre, vampires, Canberra bombers, mig-27,… the Rafale just replicated how an indian would fly it.

 

[PradoTLC]

The S400 is also a dud on arrival since Pakistan already has an established Cognitive Electronic Warfare system to "surprise" India.

turkey also bought the system.. so you can bet we will have a close look at it.

concerning it being a dud.. depends.. if that same genius who shot your own hel on 27 feb is manning the s400 any thing is possible

Just Jf-17 and secretive "surprises" from Pakistan will take care of any such current and future purchases.

Why not ?

it surprised you before.. what makes you think we won’t do it again

 

[blueazure]

TB2s were able to wreck havoc only after those Harpy drones eliminated the air defenses else those would have had no chances. Meanwhile we are buying MQ9 Reaper Predator-B UCAVs.

conjectures- theories

 

[mig25]

100% correct…. With modi and his rss Hindu ideology …this is a guaranteed event


indian pilots seem to get shot down in any thing..su30, mig21, hunters, Mystre, vampires, Canberra bombers, mig-27,… the Rafale just replicated how an indian would fly it.

Exactly what I am saying. A PAF pilot in a Cessna armed with a radar and a datalink communication with AWACS and PL-15 missiles is enough! what's the disagreement? Kashmir has been left on the platter all it takes for you is to start walking the talk. Talking the talk has been deafening so far.