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India furious at UN for rejecting surgical strike claim in Kashmir

Wow! I didn't know Pakistan had such defense capabilities. But then I rarely ever comment on defense equipment/capabilities because I am ignorant about them--and by choice.

But if what you say is true then it is a formidable defense. Thanks for sharing.

Coming back to the 'Sir Gee Kal' strike debate: I think if this helps Modi save face and there is normalcy then so be it.


Don't forget the many outposts and patrols in the region. Also the soldiers in the sector they claimed to have struck is filled with hardened troops back from fighting taliban, they literally sleep with one eye open in case of any such 'infiltration'
 
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Pakistan should maintain their balance ,otherwise they will release those footage and would be a big embarrassment to Pak

If still India doesn't release the footage, it is basically lying about surgical strike.
 
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Pakistan should maintain their balance ,otherwise they will release those footage and would be a big embarrassment to Pak

Indians did cross border raids even during Kargil time but all end up in fire fights with PA although they mange to kill some civilians (which I mention here on PDF but was rejected by Indian) so cross border raids are noting new it going on since long, calling them surgical strike is just childish.
 
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India furious at UN for rejecting surgical strike claim in Kashmir
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Desperate India is furious at the United Nations for rejecting its black propaganda of surgical strike along the Line of Control in Kashmir.

The UN mission monitoring the ceasefire said it “has not directly observed” any firing along the LoC.

Responding to a question on the “surgical strikes” claim of Indian Army in Kashmir, UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon’s spokesperson Stephane Dujarric said at a daily press briefing that the UN Military Observer Group in India and Pakistan (UNMOGIP) had not “directly observed” any firing.

“They are obviously aware of the reports of these presumed violations and are talking to the relevant concerned authorities,” he said.

Read more: UN mission finds no proof of Indian ‘surgical strike’ claims

But Indian leadership led by hardliner Prime Minister Narendra Modi is still tweaking the script of the loosely choreographed drama in a desperate bid to fix plot holes in the storyline.

Showing anger at the UNMOGIP in extreme frustration, India’s Permanent Representative to the UN Syed Akbaruddin said the facts on the ground do not change whether somebody has “observed” it or not.

“I have nothing to say because what (Dujarric) said was ‘directly observed’. It’s a call that they have to take. I cannot place myself in their boots and directly observe something,” said the Indian envoy, when asked to comment on Dujarric’s remarks.

Akbaruddin said the “facts on the ground do not change whether somebody acknowledges or not. Facts are facts, we presented the facts and that’s where we stand.”

Meanwhile, Indian Home Minister Rajnath Singh after inaugurating a ‘smart toilet’ in New Delhi on Sunday when quizzed by reporters on doubts raised by Pakistan over the operation as India did not release the footage of the operation, said, “Just wait and watch,” Indian Express reported.

Read more: ‘Just wait and watch’, says Indian Home Minister about evidence of surgical strikes

India claimed on September 29 that it conducted surgical strikes inside Kashmir in revenge attack in Srinagar that killed 18 soldiers.

On the other hand, a Japanese magazine issued a report ruling out the possibility of surgical strikes at the LoC, in the presence of Pakistan’s missile system. “Pakistan’s air surveillance is also highly advanced,” it stated.

The report further said that Indian military is not capable of conducting surgical strikes in the first place, for it lacks the defence equipment required in such operations.

Quite contrary to India’s coward attitude , Pakistani military took local and foreign journalists on a rare visit to forward locations along the Line of Control to debunk the myth of Indian surgical strikes.

The Pakistan Army vehemently rejected all the Indian claims of the so-called surgical strikes, saying that no such incident had taken place and the Indian lies had been exposed before the world.

It said anyone who tried any misadventure inside Pakistan will get response beyond his imagination.

“No such incident has taken place nor any such will be allowed to happen in future and if the adversary attempted so, it will be responded to with an ever strongest force,” Director General (DG) Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) Lieutenant General Asim Saleem Bajwa said.

Briefing the visiting journalists, representing both foreign and local media, at two different locations along the LoC, Boxor and Hotsping, he said the Indian claims of carrying out surgical strikes across the LoC were baseless, absurd and unfounded, which were meant to not only misguide the Indian people but also the international community.

“No physical violation of the LoC has taken place, nor it will be allowed to happen by our resilient forces,” he reiterated in reply to a question.

“The Pakistan Army is fully prepared to tackle any misadventure and any such attempt will be responded to in a more effective and forceful manner,” he said.

Read more: Denial won’t bring back the dead

General Officer Commanding of Bhimber Sector Major General Chiragh Haider apprised the journalists that no physical violation of the LoC happened on the night between September 28 and September 29 as claimed by the Indian Director General Military Operations.

The journalists were earlier given a full picture about the geographical and physical location at the Boxor Formation by Brigade Commander Brigadier Furqan Moazam. The entire scenario was drawn to make them understand that how the Indian forces had carried out unprovoked firing due to which a Pakistani soldier embraced Shahadat.

At the foothills of Boxor Formation, two villages of about 130,000 inhabitants are situated whose residents have no clue about any intrusion by the Indian troops. They confirmed that only crossfire had taken place on the particular night and nothing else.

The DG ISPR said the visit of media persons was arranged with the purpose that they should independently probe the Indian claim.

The DG ISPR said the ceasefire violation along the LoC was a routine affair and labelling it as a surgical strike was totally baseless and a pack of ‘white lies’. He said in 2003 Pakistan had announced unilateral ceasefire which was later ratified by India. Pakistan, he said, had been exercising maximum restraint by not initiating fire. The Pakistan side, he said, hardly initiated fire while in most of the cases it was the other side which had initiated firing and then it became necessary for Pakistan to silence the guns of the adversary through an effective response.

Lieutenant General Asim Bajwa said same was the case of the night between September 28 and Sept 29 when the Indian side opened fire of small to medium calibre at around 02:00 hours and the same was responded in a befitting manner. The fire from across the LoC continued till 08:00 hours with a matchless response from the Pakistani side and the same morning it was named as a “surgical strike”.

In that specific case, he questioned as to how Indian special forces personnel landed on the Pakistani soil and then left the area without coming into the knowledge of Pakistani troops who were deployed in an alert state.

“If they had sent paratroopers, what was their purpose or aim to be here and how they returned to their country?” he posed another question, referring to the Indian claims.

When asked to comment on the hotline contact between the DGMOs of the two countries, he said they did speak on the issue and the Pakistani DGMO lodged a protest on the incident of unprovoked Indian firing that claimed the lives of two Pakistani soldiers. He had straightaway rejected the claim of Indian DGMO regarding the surgical strike, stating that no such incident had taken place.

The DG ISPR stated that the UNMOGIP with seven posts on the Pakistani side of the LoC had been observing the situation while India had not been offering them access to locations on its side.

Answering a question, he said inadvertent crossing of the LoC was a routine matter and if any such case was found, it would be treated in accordance with the standing order procedures (SOP).

“We are prepared for any eventuality. The other side had been escalating the situation which is being minutely observed by the world forums,” he added.

Pointing out the situation in the Indian Held Kashmir (IHK), he said it was the 84th consecutive day of curfew in the IHK where the people had been demanding their right to franchise in accordance with the UN resolutions.

He said the struggle of the IHK people was completely indigenous. The present situation along the LoC, he added, was an Indian attempt to divert the attention of the world forums from the situation in the IHK, especially at the time of UN General Assembly session.

http://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/201...r-rejecting-surgical-strike-claim-in-kashmir/

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Loving the indian fristration... come on guys.. Pakistan is not Myanmar or Bangladesh!.. India just achieved humiliation and not any strategic goal.. got their military men killed and captured... thats it!

UN ka India ko badmash mana sa inkar...........or call Indian govt incompetent . ......officially lost world trust...

Your Donkey is with us to spill the beans.

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Seems Pak army building Zoo for Indian army....before Pak army had monkey now donkey .....
 
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*The people who live near the LOC say "What"?
*The UNOGIP says "What"?
*The Pakistan Army says "What"?

Interestingly Pak allows UNOGIP to operate on it's side of LOC but India does not. I wonder why?

Link > http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/02/world/asia/kashmir-pakistan-india.html
You are forgetting one thing. The attacks have been being done by the Ape forces as par the Indian Defence Minister. And, he's right. Some folks from Beni Israil were turned into apes for failing to enforce divine commands. Proxies fighting Pak are much much worse. So, Mukti Bahini, TTP, BLA etc. are in fact Honuman forces employed by India to harm Pak...
 
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Pakistan should maintain their balance ,otherwise they will release those footage and would be a big embarrassment to Pak
The one which is still under production in Bombay / Bollywood?
 
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*The people who live near the LOC say "What"?
*The UNOGIP says "What"?
*The Pakistan Army says "What"?

Interestingly Pak allows UNOGIP to operate on it's side of LOC but India does not. I wonder why?

Link > http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/02/world/asia/kashmir-pakistan-india.html
BAN INDIAN MOVIES CHANNELS COMMERCIALS DISH TV GIVE THEM WHAT THEY DESERVE BECAUSE SINCE DAY ONE INDIA ROOT CAUSE OF CREATING BLUNDERS FOR PAKISTAN,Pakistan need changes in corrupt politicians foreign policies ,need only Patriotic media, icbm, naval war ship, missile shield, also nuclear sub marines, these crook cunning wicked modi supporter hindu devils root cause of all criminal activities in asia need a life long lesson pthan kot mumbai blast uri attack all self made propagandas just support all that organisations which need freedom from india kill modi if he dies the whole asia will be in peace all goons criminals will die which india spread on daily bases in neighbouring countries gujrat butcher u can never trust back stabber hindus till they are alive, so if they ever gonna target pak so pak must target all three countries so people remember them in history,FINISH MQM COMPLETELY, india israel afghanistan common interests against pak because today all india is doing on the signals of usa who don't see atrocities of india in balochistan tribal areas of pak kashmir srilanka burma but see even very minor things of pak even not did clear discrimination must be stopped nawaz sharif can do several speeches to cover his thefts of panama but no speech on LOC issues indian raw criminals and constantly shouting there could some thing happen in imran khan gatherings all game of noon party to harm army and imran GOD bless Pakistan.
 
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Pakistan should maintain their balance ,otherwise they will release those footage and would be a big embarrassment to Pak
No it's never be released
1. You don't have it coz you didn't do
2. If you did and you have and release
You be in big trouble internationally to attack another country big big Hindian lose of its dreaming of getting permennat seat in security counsel etc etc etc etc?
 
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Pakistan will never admit it(due to shame of failure) .And it'll make next strike much easier. :lol: Just like OBL strikes,few Pakistanis still believes that it never happened.What a gullible country.
How many times you Indians will resort to the OBL episode? No Pakistani ever said that the operation didn't happen, what they said was that OBL couldn't be there. Show me any official or even non official statement which states that the Americans didn't attack the compound.
 
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India furious at UN for rejecting surgical strike claim in Kashmir
50 MINS AGO BY IHSAN QADIR
rajnath.jpg



Desperate India is furious at the United Nations for rejecting its black propaganda of surgical strike along the Line of Control in Kashmir.

The UN mission monitoring the ceasefire said it “has not directly observed” any firing along the LoC.

Responding to a question on the “surgical strikes” claim of Indian Army in Kashmir, UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon’s spokesperson Stephane Dujarric said at a daily press briefing that the UN Military Observer Group in India and Pakistan (UNMOGIP) had not “directly observed” any firing.


On the other hand, a Japanese magazine issued a report ruling out the possibility of surgical strikes at the LoC, in the presence of Pakistan’s missile system. “Pakistan’s air surveillance is also highly advanced,” it stated.

The report further said that Indian military is not capable of conducting surgical strikes in the first place, for it lacks the defence equipment required in such operations.





Why are they furious at the United Nations? i don't think so they should be because their own prime minister declined the surgical strike drama stating that we have not attacked on any country neither we are thirsty of lands
 
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Really? Are you high on Bollywood fantasy story, go ahead still waiting, not the fake surgical cartoon strike, no need to beat your chest high with jingoism.:pakistan:
You still believe in your bullshit, these are not Indian systems, these are Israeli systems on an IL78 and very good Russian and french fighters..... And these things hit really hard, i can understand..... Your air force will fall short to IAF if you ever became an aggressor....
 
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look what i dont understand is the logic here, why in hell would india send troops, are they kinda stupid...
i mean most logical why to do any strikes are air strikes and honestly no body can stop such strikes as india can easily use guided weapons from well within it boarders, no one can reacts to such strikes so quickly...the only thing is what happens afterwards
 
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facts on the ground do not change whether somebody has “observed” it or not.

You have to establish those facts by providing evidence.

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See the mythological nature of this attack, it is an un-observable fact :disagree:
 
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even with all these toys which india spent billions cannot do JACK. Other than offcourse relentless propaganda lie to JACK up rate of indian chest thumping. That reality makes indian 150 Su-30mki, 50 Mig-29's and 40 upgraded mirage-2000's,just worth less junk and subject of world amusement.
we did jack shit in 1971 and knew it, that someday it would become a worthless peice of shit :disagree:

Plz release we are still waiting :pop::pop::pop:
thoda aur mujra kijiye and then we will definitely release the videos, it would not had made sense to release it immediately, we want Pakistan to be declared as a terror state, now that you are cleaning your shit on eastern border, we will surly release it in some time.......wait for it you will be left with no place to hide on this forum.....:disagree:

Plz release we are still waiting :pop::pop::pop:


And we bought out SAMs for polishing :coffee::coffee::coffee:

Indians has bought from Russian nothing except scrap
sometimes people forget that if russian fighters are junk then maybe Chinese equipment is more like a scrap metal...keep polishing it and show your high painting skills, maybe this is what your armed forces learnt in the last 70 years, polishing and painting.....one you learnt from USA and the other skill you got from your beloved brothers China....:rofl::rofl:
 
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