India funding terrorism in Pakistan?

[Menace2Society]

‘India financed problems for Pakistan’ from Afghanistan: Chuck Hagel – The Express Tribune

Chuck certainly believes this is the case.

So this means TTP and BLA are both funded by India as we suspected.

What do we do about this?

I for one would like to plant ISI cells in Afghanistan to monitor the Indian consulates and get hold of the paper trail for the money that is being siphoned off to the terrorists. Present this evidence to the world and then we can finally say, I told you so.

 

[Dillinger]

It would be a feasible way to cause attrition, military or otherwise, and strain the back-broken Pakistani economy. We should give some serious thought to such a stratagem- although personally and from a sentimental point of view it would be distasteful- but it can be kept in storage as an exigent plan.

 

[livingdead]

BLA may be... but why TTP?

It would be a feasible way to cause attrition, military or otherwise, and strain the back-broken Pakistani economy. We should give some serious thought to such a stratagem- although personally and from a sentimental point of view it would be distasteful- but it can be kept in storage as an exigent plan.

which one do you prefer, war or supporting militancy.. I would prefer later although it sounds immoral.(as long as no civilians are killed)

 

[Dillinger]

BLA may be... but why TTP?


which one do you prefer, war or supporting militancy.. I would prefer later although it sounds immoral.(as long as no civilians are killed)

Civilian fatalities are distasteful. BUT the nation we are dealing with has not played by those rules either so in case of an exigency we must be willing to let such casualties slide. The point is to be smart about it unlike Pakistan- lest we want to be maligned all over. Cleaner, numerous levels of separation and avoiding high visibility targets other than military ones unless there is an exigent circumstance. Still, its up to our leaders and the authorities concerned- Personally I would still prefer not to engage in any such thing. That's why I said that such a stratagem should be kept in cold storage and employed ONLY when no other option remains viable- thankfully that is not the case nor will it be for the foreseeable future. A PNS Mehran type assault is acceptable.

 

[livingdead]

Civilian fatalities are distasteful. BUT the nation we are dealing with has not played by those rules either so in case of an exigency we must be willing to let such casualties slide. The point is to be smart about it unlike Pakistan- lest we want to be maligned all over. Cleaner, numerous levels of separation and avoiding high visibility targets other than military ones unless there is an exigent circumstance. Still, its up to our leaders and the authorities concerned- Personally I would still prefer not to engage in any such thing. That's why I said that such a stratagem should be kept in cold storage and employed ONLY when no other option remains viable- thankfully that is not the case nor will it be for the foreseeable future. A PNS Mehran type assault is acceptable.

I tend to believe that we are already doing it, and some of the accusations (especially wrt BLA) are true. And yes I was talking about Mehran type attack not killing a random dude in market.

 

[special]

‘India financed problems for Pakistan’ from Afghanistan: Chuck Hagel – The Express Tribune

Chuck certainly believes this is the case.

So this means TTP and BLA are both funded by India as we suspected.

What do we do about this?

I for one would like to plant ISI cells in Afghanistan to monitor the Indian consulates and get hold of the paper trail for the money that is being siphoned off to the terrorists. Present this evidence to the world and then we can finally say, I told you so.

may be a retaliation for this
'ISI officer the brain behind fake currency' - Hindustan Times

 

[Dillinger]

I tend to believe that we are already doing it, and some of the accusations (especially wrt BLA) are true. And yes I was talking about Mehran type attack not killing a random dude in market.

A 26/11 like assault should NEVER be backed, abetted, aided or funded. Specifically targeting civilian targets should also NEVER be accepted. Collateral damage, within reasonable bounds, while attacking a specific military target is a different matter. Again, no shelter for any such elements on Indian territory, no camps or training/funding infrastructure in Indian territory. We do not need a blowbak from such "assets".

That's the objective analysis. Although we also need to look at the cost benefit analysis. We are the stronger nation by far and don't particularly need to employ proxies (specially not religious terror orgs. those are a NO-NO under any and all circumstances)- unless it be part of a contained and limited stratagem. MB for example was employed within a contained region in pursuit of a very specific objective. IF we start rolling with the likes of the TTP and the LeJ then that will all go down the drain, these organisations are more bent on creating as many casualties as possible- and that is completely unacceptable.

Now on a personal note- as tempting as this would be. And as fitting as it would be given the prospective target nation- no matter how much I opine that it would be a feasible strategy- It would also be in contravention to what we are supposed to stand for. I still can't rationalize supporting the LTTE, so this would be a HARD sell to a person like me at least.

 

[Bobby]

Good News...tit for tat....

 

[livingdead]

@Dillinger .. we should consider war as completely out of equation, which take out our conventional capability (stronger nation?) out of equation. Proxy war is the only alternative.
BTW, when talking about proxys I am thinking more on line of mukti vahini than LTTE. Although I wont be against some opportunistic transaction based deal with some of these nasty people for sabotage.

 

[Aka123]

‘India financed problems for Pakistan’ from Afghanistan: Chuck Hagel – The Express Tribune

Chuck certainly believes this is the case.

So this means TTP and BLA are both funded by India as we suspected.

What do we do about this?

I for one would like to plant ISI cells in Afghanistan to monitor the Indian consulates and get hold of the paper trail for the money that is being siphoned off to the terrorists. Present this evidence to the world and then we can finally say, I told you so.

Lots of belief in US officials you have..... ok then listen to the comments of this US Defense official as well.

 

[Menace2Society]

may be a retaliation for this
'ISI officer the brain behind fake currency' - Hindustan Times

Provide the proof that it was a Pakistani govt or military agency involved.

 

[Dillinger]

@Dillinger .. we should consider war as completely out of equation, which take out our conventional capability (stronger nation?) out of equation. Proxy war is the only alternative.
BTW, when talking about proxys I am thinking more on line of mukti vahini than LTTE. Although I wont be against some opportunistic transaction based deal with some of these nasty people for sabotage.

There are smarter and cleaner ways to deal with a nation like Pakistan if required. All of us get sentimental when we hear of one of our jawaans losing his life in the field or civilians in a market place dying due to an attack by some Pakistan backed proxy- BUT we must remember that attrition is the last weapon that can bring India down- materially (in strategic terms) these organisations cannot harm us. Which is exactly why their handlers try to stomp their collective foot on the peddle once in a while and go after a high visibility target.

Provide the TTP with some funding and info IF they are going to be assaulting another airbase or naval base- that's OK, but it must on an op to op basis- where we first know what the target is- WHICH is a very difficult thing to do since these guys aren't exactly your local panwadi guy who'll pay you back the change day after.

 

[janon]

Provide the proof that it was a Pakistani govt or military agency involved.

Ditto for the title of the thread, which you started.

(Two can play at that game, you see.)

 

[livingdead]

@Dillinger .. our leaders are smarter than what we give them credit for, the press and people just go after them and expect some knee jerk reaction.

 

[jaunty]

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