India for incremental progress, status quo ante at LAC

[namefield_empty]

Ni hao Han forumers, what would it take for you to grow a spine and acknowledge your field casualties, and not let indentured slaves shill for you. We understand that the manner in which your men perished don't paint a pretty picture but this stoic silence can barely contain the visceral rage boiling inside your commie CCP cadres.

To the Indians, is it just me or does a certain picture come to your mind too every time the word begging is mentioned.

 

[SuperStar20]

If Chinese officials say no death you people will be the first to say ITS FAKE .I know Indian mentality too well.
However by not releasing the numbers it's pissing off Indians more. Maybe that's what they want or maybe their thinking is old style and by not releasing they want to calm the situation.

Well chinese officials are saying that no deaths, correct? It may be other way around. India does not want war at this pandemic virus time. Indian gov and military deliberately not releasing any video/figure accurately to give face saving chance to Xi and PLA for retreat.

 

[casual]

Well chinese officials are saying that no deaths, correct? It may be other way around. India does not want war at this pandemic virus time. Indian gov and military deliberately not releasing any video/figure accurately to give face saving chance to Xi and PLA for retreat.

believe whatever you want. China will just keep fortifying their positions. talking wont' get them to turn back.

 

[masterchief_mirza]

“There was a view that we should adopt a strong and rigid posture on our demands for restoration of status quo ante. At this stage, we should show our stubbornness, we need to keep the Chinese off-balance, not comfort them,” an official told The Sunday Express.

Chit-stamping amateurs couldn't topple a sofa from a tightrope.

Not a good way to bargain if you think about it. Still haven't learned anything from British who occupied HK for 150 years.

What has India learned from the British? Would Delhi not have seen common sense and given up any fanciful ideations of ethnoreligious engineering in Kashmir back in 1947 if Nehru et al had actually "learned" any lessons whatsoever from the colonial era British?

 

[hussain0216]

Indians are coming across as loud mouthed COWARDS why can Indians not see this????

All the chest beating
Fantasy
Weapons purchases etc

Indians are just looking like pussies

 

[Fireurimagination]

Lol Pakistanis come across as such naive people. Even if India wants to take a military step or fight a war with China we will do so at a time and place of our choosing.Doklam standoff happened for a good 60 days why didn't hyperpower China attack India. Were they cowards or were scared of India? There have been instances when the standoff has went on for a year. Both the countries are not fools to start a war.

 

[danger007]

A tresspasser has scaled the fence n climbed into your own backyard. Instead of arming yourself with a baseball bat or metal rod to chase him out, u seek to negotiate with him- begging, praying n hoping he would leave on his own accord.

An expansionist under 21st century dictatorship... it's quite expected that you support ccp... otherwise they execute you..

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

Right from Modi own speech. No Indian land is lost. He indirectly admit its moment of folly from his management. ...

Official Indian surrender broadcast live to the entire Indian nation. Lol.

 

[Amaa'n]

Commentary:

The following article's about India seeking to reclaim the LAC it controlled before the clashes in May- through 'disengagement talks'

Source:

https://indianexpress.com/article/i...ntal-progress-status-quo-ante-at-lac-6523561/

India for incremental progress, status quo ante at LAC
New Delhi has decided to stick to its strategy of “incremental change despite slow progress” while pressing for the end-goal, the restoration of status quo ante as of April — before the start of the military standoff.

India and China are expected to schedule the fifth round of talks at the Corps Commander level next week to resolve the situation along the Line of Actual Control (LAC) in Ladakh.

New Delhi has decided to stick to its strategy of “incremental change despite slow progress” while pressing for the end-goal, the restoration of status quo ante as of April — before the start of the military standoff.

It has also ruled out application of any kind of military pressure against China as an option, so as to avoid any inadvertent escalation(because it's weak and unable to take military action against china- not that it doesnt want to).

A government official told The Sunday Express that both sides have agreed to hold the talks at the level of the Corps Commander during the meeting Friday of the Working Mechanism for Consultation & Coordination on India-China Border Affairs, but the agenda for the talks is yet to be approved.

The date for the talks will be finalized only after the agenda is approved, and can be expected to be held towards the end of next week.

“It is a very institutionalized process. Before every Corps Commander talks, the agenda is approved in Delhi. There is a meeting of the China Study Group which sits down and approves what the commander can propose and agree to. He is an instrument in the process, not the decision-making authority,” the government official said.

READ | Agreement with China on early, complete disengagement: India

After the last round of talks at the level of the Corps Commander on July 14 which failed to break the deadlock, there was a view within the government that there was a need to keep the Chinese off-balance in the next round of talks, as Beijing seemed to be comfortable with the new status quo on the border.

This view was based on the argument that if military options are ruled out and India is prepared for a prolonged standoff and winter deployment, it should not accept any half-measures or proposals for partial disengagement on the LAC at this stage.

“There was a view that we should adopt a strong and rigid posture on our demands for restoration of status quo ante. At this stage, we should show our stubbornness, we need to keep the Chinese off-balance, not comfort them,” an official told The Sunday Express.

The consensus in the government, however, seems to have veered around the continuation of its existing strategy of the past 12 weeks of the standoff. It rules out any use of military options, either as a quid pro quo action or in any other form of military leverage, while focusing on the end goal of restoration of the status quo ante.

“Our end goal is restoration of the status quo ante, in as many steps as it takes. Anything which facilitates the stated outcome is important for the end goal. Yes, the progress has been very slow but there has been incremental change despite slow progress on the ground. I mean, without going into specifics, there has been some thinning out of troops even in the last few days and there will be some positive results to show before the next talks between commanders,” a second government official said.

Explained: Why it is a challenge maintaining troops on LAC
“The Army will remain deployed for the long haul, and logistics preparations have already started for that. If required, there can be even a permanent deployment. That is crystal clear,” the official said.

On the lack of discussion about the situation in Depsang Plains, where the Chinese have denied the Indian side access to five patrolling points, the official said “our aim is for resolution in the entire eastern Ladakh. But the current focus is on Pangong.”

A senior Army officer confirmed the government official’s stance on status quo ante and prolonged stand-off by pointing to a television interview given by Northern Army Commander, Lt General YK Joshi to CNN-News18 on Saturday.

“What I can tell you in simple words is that we shall continue all efforts to restore the status quo ante along LAC. I believe the negotiations and process of disengagement and the commitment of both sides to adhere to the laid down methodology would dictate the timelines of the stand-off,” Lt General Joshi told the news channel.

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As reported earlier, there has been limited progress in disengagement on the ground, leaving the situation tense on at least three of the friction points: PP17A in Gogra, Pangong area and Depsang Plains. As per intelligence sources, a sustained strength of 2,000 PLA soldiers has been blocking Indian patrols in Depsang for 10 weeks now.

In the assessment of intelligence agencies, China is attempting to make the Kugrang Tsangpo river as the new LAC at PP15 and PP17A in the Hot Springs sector. It has also not removed its posts on the forward slope of Finger 4 at Pangong Tso, and has further strengthened its deployment close to Finger 6, sources said.

stop changing the thread title for propaganda war please, on next violation, there will be a warning.
If you wana add your comments, you can do so on O.P body, changing titles is not allowed

 

[TNT]

India basically is a beggar nation, they take the largest aid. If u catch an indian from his neck, he will start begging for his life. The same goes for their govt and army. They begged for abhinondone and now begging chinese togo back.

 

[Han Patriot]

That is the reason, PLA not releasing its casualties. Because PLA was not ready for full fledged war.

Latest update as per Chellaney

https://twitter.com/x/status/1287323466300108801

 

[Ahmad Bhutta]

Latest update as per Chellaney

https://twitter.com/x/status/1287323466300108801

Modi is anything but peaceful he's hindutva bastid, illiterate chai Wala disrupting peace in the whole region but I'm happy only modi can disintegrate India and it's beginning to happen

 

[HalfMoon]

A tresspasser has scaled the fence n climbed into your own backyard. Instead of arming yourself with a baseball bat or metal rod to chase him out, u seek to negotiate with him- begging, praying n hoping he would leave on his own accord.

I like your analogy.

 

[HalfMoon]

that's what u would have instinctively done- no?? i think if u're in america, u would have grabbed your shotgun

These Indians are shameless creatures and their PM Modi is the Surrender in Chief.

 

[HalfMoon]

if u're in pakistan, u would have grabbed your ak-47, point it at the intruder n demand he leave- or else:

Pakistanis are born fighters while Indians are sissies. we should not even try to compare.