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India Facing Growing Maoists Insurgency, Targets Rights Groups

I wonder if it was a good idea to label CPI-M a terrorist org and ban them... they were an established political party that could potentially have been engaged in dialogue. And these cadres produced people who eventually took high office, such as George Fernandes.

CPI-Maoist banned to avoid ambiguity: Chidambaram: Rediff.com India News

By banning and sidelining these groups, they are excluded from mainstream dialogue, adding more fuel to the fire.

The Naxalite insurgency appears to be spreading and getting worse.

Tech yaar i think you got confused with CPI with CPI maosits..CPI is a political party here and its not banned ..The banned oraganisation is a armed group who dont belive in democracy and want there rule in Delhi
 
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There is no greater human right than the right to food, shelter and clothing. And the Chinese, even the Pakistanis, have done a better job of respecting this basic human right than India.
Speaking in 2008, Indian planning commission member Syeda Hamid acknowledged India's failure in meeting its people's nutritional needs when she said, "I should not compare. But countries like Bangladesh, Pakistan and Sri Lanka are better." She was speaking at a conference organized last year by the Confederation of Indian Industry and the Ministry of Development of Northeastern Region.

Haq's Musings: Food, Clothing and Shelter in India and Pakistan

Before food, shelter and clothing, you need to be alive and that is bigger human rights than any thing else.

Look at the threat levels of Tibetians\Muslims in China, Tamils in Srinlanka, Minorities in Pakistan and Bangladesh. They even can not carry on their beliefs openly and Freely. I see that on this forum If people have so much of hate against some religious minorities then what will be the life of an average non-muslim in Pakistan/Bangladesh.

Do you really think Food, Shelter, clothings etc ranks higher than Living under threat in terms of Human right? Rethink about it and als find better ways to market your blog.. after all Marketting is your profession. ain't it?
 
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There is no greater human right than the right to food, shelter and clothing. And the Chinese, even the Pakistanis, have done a better job of respecting this basic human right than India.

Speaking in 2008, Indian planning commission member Syeda Hamid acknowledged India's failure in meeting its people's nutritional needs when she said, "I should not compare. But countries like Bangladesh, Pakistan and Sri Lanka are better." She was speaking at a conference organized last year by the Confederation of Indian Industry and the Ministry of Development of Northeastern Region.

Haq's Musings: Food, Clothing and Shelter in India and Pakistan

When beaten back, you simply deviate from the topic and make incoherent claims as a face saving exit. The response i gave above post#66 lies your tall claims flat. So swing the way you want, i am little busy preparing for my exam tomorrow otherwise you will come up with another stat that 80% of muslims fails test in India.
 
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I saw the baluchistan thread a while ago, its deleted now. So shall we flood this thread which baluchistan, pashtoonistan or sindhistan ?

You want to discuss Indian internal issues and term India as harsh on minorities whereas there is only one nation in region which was dismembered due to mistreatment on minorities.

This is called hypocrisy.
Since this is a Pakistan Forum, you as an Indian will have the privilege to post , flood or flame here but no such joy for me as a Pakistani to convey my point across say in BR.
It will benefit you to do some home work before you come here and start preaching your rational beliefs, In India the Muslims, Sikhs and Christians are the minorities and for your cumber some judgement, Pakistan is a major Muslim country and the minorities are Hindu, Sikhs and Christians etc. Bengali Muslim were never a minority and here is a wake up call, the population of East Pakistan was always more than that of West Pakistan, hence your point is meaningless.
However it's only in India, where there are a dozen or so insurgencies for independence or otherwise taking effect, not many countries boast of so many unsatisfied citizens.
 
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When beaten back, you simply deviate from the topic and make incoherent claims as a face saving exit. The response i gave above post#66 lies your tall claims flat. So swing the way you want, i am little busy preparing for my exam tomorrow otherwise you will come up with another stat that 80% of muslims fails test in India.

Beaten back? Face saving? Look who's talking? Unable to respond with any rational data or arguments, you resort to nonsensical responses.

The list of atrocities against minorities in India is very long. Delhi Sikhs in 1984, Gujarat Muslims in 2002, Orissa Christians in 2008, to name just a few .... and recent hounding of MF Hussain is still fresh in our minds.

A lot of what I am talking about are not just allegations, these are well documented pogroms where the perpetrators are still roaming free.

Haq's Musings: Sikhs Remember Victims of 1984 Massacre
 
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Beaten back? Face saving? Look who's talking? Unable to respond with any rational data or arguments, you resort to nonsensical responses.

The list of atrocities against minorities in India is very long. Delhi Sikhs in 1984, Gujarat Muslims in 2002, Orissa Christians in 2008, to name just a few .... and recent hounding of MF Hussain is still fresh in our minds.

A lot of what I am talking about are not just allegations, these are well documented pogroms where the perpetrators are still roaming free.

Haq's Musings: Sikhs Remember Victims of 1984 Massacre

Its pretty ironic Mr. Haq that you are arguing a case of atrocities against "minorities" in India, with a Muslim. Are you suggesting that you are better aware of the conditions of Muslims in India, then an Indian Muslim himself?
Every nation having a diverse population has to face such issues, be it ethinic, religious or sectarian diversity like in your case. Can you deny that these problems occur in Pakistan too?
Time and again you have been busted posting fabricated facts and figures, so talking figures with you makes no sense.
Lastly you show your concern for M.F. Hussain. I hope you are aware why was he in the situation he is? If you are, I am sure you must have sympathies for the jerk Rushdie too!
If not then you are a hypocrite.
 
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I hope you reply this time Mr. Haq, if you are in a position to answer i.e, no pressures!!!:cheers:
 
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Its pretty ironic Mr. Haq that you are arguing a case of atrocities against "minorities" in India, with a Muslim. Are you suggesting that you are better aware of the conditions of Muslims in India, then an Indian Muslim himself?
Every nation having a diverse population has to face such issues, be it ethinic, religious or sectarian diversity like in your case. Can you deny that these problems occur in Pakistan too?
Time and again you have been busted posting fabricated facts and figures, so talking figures with you makes no sense.
Lastly you show your concern for M.F. Hussain. I hope you are aware why was he in the situation he is? If you are, I am sure you must have sympathies for the jerk Rushdie too!
If not then you are a hypocrite.

Why you become soooooo serious?
By the way, the way Muslims living in India is what we Pakistani are more than enough aware by that!
 
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Its pretty ironic Mr. Haq that you are arguing a case of atrocities against "minorities" in India, with a Muslim. Are you suggesting that you are better aware of the conditions of Muslims in India, then an Indian Muslim himself?
Every nation having a diverse population has to face such issues, be it ethinic, religious or sectarian diversity like in your case. Can you deny that these problems occur in Pakistan too?
Time and again you have been busted posting fabricated facts and figures, so talking figures with you makes no sense.
Lastly you show your concern for M.F. Hussain. I hope you are aware why was he in the situation he is? If you are, I am sure you must have sympathies for the jerk Rushdie too!
If not then you are a hypocrite.

This Indian Muslim is either grossly misinformed, or accepting of discrimination against his fellow Muslims in India.

He is disagreeing with the detailed findings of an Indian government commission headed by Justice Sachar on this subject which details things such as disproportionate unemployment and incarceration rates in India.

Asra Nomani who I quoted earlier as calling Muslims as "India's New Untouchables" is also an Indian Muslim...a she knows the reality in India because she is a journalist.

Muslims -- India's new 'untouchables' - Los Angeles Times

Here's how Indian columnist Kapil Komireddi put it in the Guardian:

Indian Muslims in particular have rarely known a life uninterrupted by communal conflict or unimpaired by poverty and prejudice. Their grievances are legion, and the list of atrocities committed against them by the Indian state is long. In 2002 at least 1,000 Muslims were slaughtered by Hindu mobs in the western state of Gujarat in what was the second state-sponsored pogrom in India (Sikhs were the object of the first, in 1984).

Kapil Komireddi: India's failing secularism | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk
 
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You have not given a suitable answer, if you feel i am lying, read your answer again,and yourself pass your judgement on it. Posting some hate articles is very easy task, you can find hundreds, just one click away. And you seem to have very smartly dodged the Rushdie-Hussein angle in your reply.
Thanks
 
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Here's a video of attack on a village resisting Tata Steel which was razed to the ground by goons while police watched.

This link is from a Professor at the Asian College of Journalism at Chennai, India, of the aftermath of an alleged attack on a village resisting an entire takeover of the property by tata Steel for an expansion project of its facilities in Orissa. Kalinganagar, as the village is known, was attacked once in 2006 and some of its residents killed by goons. This time, a few weeks ago, in a second attack, several of the huts of the tribals who live there were razed to the ground in full view of police officials. Orissa, as some might know, is a neighbor state to West Bengal where the Tatas' proposed factory for their Nano car caused a similar attack on poor people resulting in 16 deaths and scores of injured people.



 
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Maoist rebels have killed at least 75 Indian soldiers in a series of attacks on security convoys in the central state of Chhattisgarh, officials say.

A large patrol of federal paramilitary troops was ambushed at dawn by hundreds of heavily armed insurgents in a remote part of Dantewada district.

Rescue teams were later ambushed in attacks using landmines and gunfire.

Correspondents say it is the worst attack on security forces by the rebels since their insurgency began.

India's Home Affairs Minister P Chidambaram said the attack showed the brutality and savagery that the rebel army was capable of.

But he suggested lessons had to be learnt quickly by the security forces.

"Something has gone very wrong. They seem to have walked into a trap set by the Naxalites [Maoists]. Casualties are quite high and I am deeply shocked," he said.

Home Secretary Gopal K Pillai said that the rebels had booby-trapped the area of the ambush.

"Preliminary reports indicate that the Maoists planted pressure bombs in surrounding areas at places where the security forces might take cover," he said.

"As a result of this, the bulk of the casualties have arisen from the pressure bomb blasts."

The Maoists have stepped up attacks in recent weeks in response to a big government offensive along what is known as the "red corridor", a broad swathe of territory in rural eastern and central India where the Maoist rebellion has been gathering strength.

Nearly 50,000 federal paramilitary troops and tens of thousands of policemen are taking part in the operation in several states.

The rebels have tapped into rural and tribal anger among those who have seen no benefits from India's economic development and this attack is another chilling reminder of the growing threat they pose, says the BBC's Chris Morris in Delhi.

Talks call

Thousands of people have died during the rebels' 20-year fight for communist rule.

The latest attacks come two days after rebels killed at least 10 policemen and injured 10 more in a landmine attack on a police bus in the eastern state of Orissa.

The rebels say they will step up attacks unless the government halts its offensive against them.

Mr Chidambaram has said troops will intensify the offensive if the rebels do not renounce violence and enter peace talks.

The Maoists want four senior leaders freed from jail and the offensive halted before any talks.

Prime Minister Manmohan Singh has described the Maoist insurgency as India's "greatest internal security challenge".

The Maoists say they are fighting for the rights of the rural poor who they say have been neglected by governments for decades.

BBC News - Scores of Indian soldiers killed in Maoist ambushes
 
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India says it has no plans to deploy troops to fight Maoists, a day after rebels killed 76 paramilitary police.

Home Minister P Chidambaram said central paramilitary and state police forces could deal with the threat, but did not rule out using the air force.

Mr Chidambaram urged calm and patience on a visit to central Chhattisgarh state, where the attacks took place.

Correspondents say it is the worst attack on security forces by the rebels since their revolt began.

An air force transport aircraft has been sent to Chhattisgarh to bring back the bodies of the soldiers killed in the attacks.

State police said the death toll had risen to 76 with the death of another member of the security forces.

Thousands of people have died during the 20-year fight for communist rule.

The Maoists say they are fighting for the rights of the rural poor who they say have been neglected by governments for decades.

'Long struggle'

Mr Chidambaram laid a wreath near coffins of security force personnel and promised that the offensive against the Maoists would continue.

"We must remain calm and hold our nerves to rid India of this threat," he said after meeting relatives of some of the dead soldiers.

"You cannot expect instant success. This is a long, drawn-out struggle. It will take two to three years, perhaps more [to defeat the rebels]."

He said the Maoists presented the "gravest threat to internal security".

"We are paying the price for the neglect of the last 10-12 years," the home minister said. During that time the Maoist movement has grown in strength in large rural areas in eastern and central India.

But he said they would not be allowed to succeed in their long-term aim of overthrowing the government.

India's main opposition party, the BJP, has said there should now be an all-out offensive against the rebels and the media are full of talk of war against the insurgency.

The BBC's Chris Morris in Delhi says the government has always insisted this is not just a security issue.

Our correspondent says it bitterly condemns Maoist violence, but it acknowledges that chronic poverty, and lack of opportunity and development, are significant factors which have given the insurgency added impetus.

'Totally outnumbered'

Police said the paramilitary troops on patrol in remote jungle in Dantewada district were ambushed by hundreds of heavily-armed insurgents.

Rescue teams were then ambushed in attacks using landmines and gunfire.

An armoured vehicle was first bombed before rebels on a hillock opened fire, police said.

As security personnel took cover, they found the rebels had booby trapped trees with explosives. Troops in the open were gunned down by the rebels.

"We were totally outnumbered. And they [the rebels] had far too much ammunition," Pramod Kumar, one of seven soldiers who survived the ambush, told The Times of India newspaper.

"How could just 80 of us fight more than 1,000 of them? We got no time and no opportunity to retaliate."

The Maoists have stepped up attacks in recent weeks in response to a big government offensive along what is known as the "red corridor", a broad swathe of territory in rural eastern and central India where the Maoist rebellion has been gathering strength.

Nearly 50,000 federal paramilitary troops and tens of thousands of policemen are taking part in the operation in several states.

Mr Chidambaram has said troops will intensify the offensive if the rebels do not renounce violence and enter peace talks.

The rebels want four senior leaders freed from jail and the offensive halted before any talks.

BBC News - India 'not planning' to deploy army after Maoist attack
 
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