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India drawn deeper into Afghanistan
By Sudha Ramachandran

BANGALORE - India's presence and influence in Afghanistan has come under fire again. While an Indian road construction project was attacked by suspected Taliban militants a little over a week ago, Indian television serials are being taken off the air in Afghanistan under pressure from religious conservatives.

In the years since the fall of the Taliban in 2001, India's presence in Afghanistan has grown dramatically. India does not have a military presence in Afghanistan, but it does play a significant role in the country's reconstruction and has won support across Afghanistan's ethnic groups.

India's proximity to the Hamid Karzai government and growing India-Afghanistan cooperation has raised hackles among the



Taliban and in Pakistan.

On Monday, an Indian working for a Dubai-based firm was kidnapped in Herat province, while on April 12 a convoy of India's Border Roads Organization (BRO), which is engaged in a road construction project, was attacked by the Taliban. The suicide attack left two BRO personnel dead and seven others, including two Afghans employed on the project, injured.

BRO is building a 218-kilometer road linking Delaram to Zaranj, which lies on Afghanistan's border with Iran.

The attack on the BRO came close on the heels of Afghan Defense Minister Abdul Rahim Wardak's week-long visit to India, during which he requested the Indian government to provide Afghan soldiers with counter-insurgency training. He also asked India for support in maintaining Afghanistan's Soviet-era helicopter gunships. Wardak visited the Indian Air Force's training command at Bangalore and the army's 15 Corps headquarters in Srinagar in Jammu and Kashmir, which would have undoubtedly ruffled feathers in Islamabad, where the Pakistan government disputes India's rights to that territory.

Even if the attack on the BRO convoy in Afghanistan's Nimroz province was not an angry reaction from the Taliban to Wardak's visit to India, it was at the least a reaction to India's growing influence in Afghanistan.

The Zaranj-Delaram road project has been in their cross-hairs for a while. The project has come under attack at least a dozen times and the recent one is the third in which Indian personnel on the project have been killed.

In November 2005, Ramankutty Maniyappan, a 36-year old driver working with the BRO, was taken hostage then beheaded. In January this year, a suicide attack on a BRO convoy resulted in the death of two personnel of the Indo-Tibetan Border Police, which are providing security to BRO personnel in Afghanistan. About 56 Afghan security personnel are said to have lost their lives guarding Indian engineers and crew on this road project.

There have been Indian casualties in other projects in Afghanistan. In 2003, an Indian engineer working for an Afghan telecom company was shot dead. The same year, two Indians employed by an Indian company and contracted by an American firm on a highway construction project were abducted and subsequently released. In 2006, an Indian national working for a Bahraini company was abducted and then beheaded.

Of all India's projects in Afghanistan, the Zaranj-Delaram road triggers the most unease in Pakistan. This is because the route will reduce Afghanistan's dependence on Pakistan and increase India's land access to Afghanistan.

Goods to landlocked Afghanistan, including supplies for North Atlantic Treaty Organization forces and international non-governmental organizations stationed there, currently come through Pakistani ports and then wind their way overland through the Khyber Pass into Afghanistan.

The Zaranj-Delaram road will link Afghanistan's Garland Highway to the Iran border through the Milak Bridge and onwards by rail and road to Iran's Chahbahar port, giving Afghanistan a shorter option to that than through Pakistan to the sea.

For India, the Zaranj-Delaram road will provide it overland access though Iran not just to Afghanistan but across Afghanistan.

It is this expanding Indian access that the Taliban and its Pakistani backers are seeking to end with their intimidation and violence.

What adds to the annoyance of the Taliban and Pakistan is that India's involvement in Afghanistan - unlike that of other countries there - is winning it support among people.

India is Afghanistan's fifth-largest bilateral donor and is involved in an array of projects in the country. It is constructing roads and setting up power transmission lines, sinking tube wells and building schools, hospitals and public toilets. It is constructing the Afghan parliament building and is engaged in repair and construction of the Salma dam project in Herat province. It has gifted Afghanistan with buses and is providing food assistance. It has trained civil servants and police and is extending scholarships to Afghan students to study in India.

Like other donors, India has fallen short on handing out funds it pledged, disbursing only a third of the US$750 million pledged for the 2002-09 period.

However, its involvement in Afghanistan's reconstruction has been quite different from that of other countries, providing the kind of help Afghans want and not merely extending assistance it thinks Afghanistan needs or foisting on the country projects New Delhi thinks are good for Afghanistan.

While India's role in Afghanistan's reconstruction has won it appreciation among the locals, religious conservatives do not seem to be impressed with its impact. They have called for a ban on Indian television soaps, which are hugely popular among Afghans. Six Indian serials are currently being televised, but the Afghan government - under pressure from hardline clerics - has ordered television stations to take them off air on the grounds that they are "un-Islamic".

Neither the general deterioration in the security situation in Afghanistan nor specific attacks on Indian project personnel there is likely to persuade India to reduce its presence or to dilute its commitment to projects. On the contrary, it could result in India stepping up its role in Afghanistan beyond the current reconstruction and development work.

Following his meeting with Wardak, India's Defense Minister A K Antony ruled out military involvement in Afghanistan. But India can be expected to take up the counter-insurgency training of Afghan soldiers. This will bring it another step closer to military engagement of the Taliban.

Thanks to Pakistan's objections to an Indian military role in Afghanistan, India was forced to stay out of the Afghan military quagmire. But that could change.

There are sections in India that are keen to sends troops to Afghanistan to take on the Taliban, this at a time when even the erstwhile Northern Alliance is reaching out to the Taliban.

A bigger military role will only put India in a tighter embrace with the failed US-led military misadventure in Afghanistan. It will make Indian personnel in Afghanistan more vulnerable to violence. And more importantly, it would erode the many gains made over the past few years with regard to earning public goodwill there.

Sudha Ramachandran is an independent journalist/researcher based in Bangalore.

(Copyright 2008 Asia Times Online Ltd. All rights reserved. Please contact us about sales, syndication and republishing.)
 
Now why are you interested in this article? It only debunks your theories that India is spreading terrorism in Pakistan thru Afghanistan. It explains how India is involved in development work there & how it is winning support among the locals, except religious hardliners.

OTOH, it opposes any military presence of India in Afghanistan, just like so many Indians. What do you find 'cool' there from Pakistan's perspective?
 
Now why are you interested in this article? It only debunks your theories that India is spreading terrorism in Pakistan thru Afghanistan. It explains how India is involved in development work there & how it is winning support among the locals, except religious hardliners.

OTOH, it opposes any military presence of India in Afghanistan, just like so many Indians. What do you find 'cool' there from Pakistan's perspective?


I think all three major players in Afghanistan US,NATO and India have buisness intrests in Afghanistan more then rehabilitation of Afghan people.

After Defeat of Russia why dont they all invested in Afghanistan for wellfare projects???????
 
I think all three major players in Afghanistan US,NATO and India have buisness intrests in Afghanistan more then rehabilitation of Afghan people.

Business activity picking up in a region would automatically cause prosperity in the region...ever heard of the free hand theory?

After Defeat of Russia why dont they all invested in Afghanistan for wellfare projects???????

India and Afghanistan have traditionally been friendly. Before the Taliban took over India and Afghanistan had flourishing trade.

Please do some research before blindly posting crap. Your blind anti Indian hate makes you look stupid.
 
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Business activity picking up in a region would automatically cause prosperity in a region...ever heard of the free hand theory?

Every thing is related to peace , if there is no peace no theory will work.

You need to read about big game of US in central asia to understand the whole picture .


India and Afghanistan have traditionally been friendly. Before the Taliban took over India and Afghanistan had flourishing trade.

It mean you are admitting that India was partner of Russia for their expedetion in Afghanistan.What was net gain of India for this partnership?

After Russian Afghan war , Afghan people need more humanterian aid ,Thausands of Afghan children died due to poverty, decease and hunger , why dont India send humanterian aid at that time?

Please do some research before blindly posting crap. Your blind anti Indian hate makes you look stupid.

I posted this article to identify your state's game plans.

Indian itself damaging its image for violation of UN resolution on Kashmir.

Who ever claimimg UN membership but mean time denying the UN resolutions on kashmir dispute actually looks stupid :woot:
 

After Russian Afghan war , Afghan people need more humanterian aid ,Thausands of Afghan children died due to poverty, decease and hunger , why dont India send humanterian aid at that time?




because the afgans who established themselves there were "the armed taliban"......and they chose to side with Pak - India's traditional enemy and also India 's trusted friend "the U.S.S.R " was defeated in the war ..... plus we were not so economically stable at that time to aid other nations........now we aid afganistan coz we have the resources ti aid it !!!!! - man i cant give you money if i dont have it myself -can i?
 
It mean you are admitting that India was partner of Russia for their expedetion in Afghanistan.What was net gain of India for this partnership?

Doing trade makes one partner in war?? The time period I mentioned was after the Russians had left and there was an afghan government at the helm.

After Russian Afghan war , Afghan people need more humanterian aid ,Thausands of Afghan children died due to poverty, decease and hunger , why dont India send humanterian aid at that time?

I posted this article to identify your state\'s game plans.

Indian itself damaging its image for violation of UN resolution on Kashmir.

Who ever claimimg UN membership but mean time denying the UN resolutions on kashmir dispute actually looks stupid :woot:

How does Kashmir come into this...or you have nothing else left to expose about evil India so you get back to your favorite subject.
 
Bravo Fundamentalist! You are spot on, at least you are asking the right questions. :cheers:
 
I think all three major players in Afghanistan US,NATO and India have buisness intrests in Afghanistan more then rehabilitation of Afghan people.

That goes for all the strategic relationships on the planet. They ought to be mutually beneficial. Unlike your strategies of supporting Taliban in Afghanistan. They were beneficial only for Pakistan, Afghanis got Taliban regime in return.

After Defeat of Russia why dont they all invested in Afghanistan for wellfare projects???????
Because India was a socialist regime back then, why are you forgetting the history? How would India have afforded to openly oppose Russia, a trusted strategic partner who had inspired the Indians to adopt socialist methodology back then? Again all this is for strategic relationships. India that time, gave more importance to Russian relationship & not Afghan.

It mean you are admitting that India was partner of Russia for their expedetion in Afghanistan.What was net gain of India for this partnership?
No direct gain. And India was not a 'partner' as you suggest. India was a quiet spectator bowing only to Russia - India strategic relationship.

After Russian Afghan war , Afghan people need more humanterian aid ,Thausands of Afghan children died due to poverty, decease and hunger , why dont India send humanterian aid at that time?

Read my second excerpt. May I instead ask what Pakistan did for the sake of Muslim brotherhood? You just pushed them into the hell called as 'Taliban' just for your strategic gains, completely ignoring the interests of Afghani people. And yet you are the ones who keep blaming them for their active animosity towards you.
 
Please do some research before blindly posting crap. Your blind anti Indian hate makes you look stupid.

Please remain civil while posting on this forum - if your point is valid, it should be obvious without resorting to such inflammatory language.
 
Well you will also read Indian involvment in afganistan beyond construction, Pakistan has accused India for terrorism in Pakistan, Pakistan has caught Indian made weaponry from talibans including communication devices, So lets not start this that india is just helping in construstion alone, No one is stupid on this site to buy your stories here..... NOW REPLY IN CIVALIZED MANNERS
 
Well you will also read Indian involvment in afganistan beyond construction, Pakistan has accused India for terrorism in Pakistan, Pakistan has caught Indian made weaponry from talibans including communication devices, So lets not start this that india is just helping in construstion alone, No one is stupid on this site to buy your stories here..... NOW REPLY IN CIVALIZED MANNERS

Hey, shoe is in the other foot now. It was Pakistan in 80s & 90s helping vrious groups working Kashmir and throughout India. Now India is using same tactics. Call act of war or what ever but it's just that situation is reversed now.
 
Well you will also read Indian involvment in afganistan beyond construction, Pakistan has accused India for terrorism in Pakistan,
Accusations are accusations......
They are not the truth.
If you have proof that India is involved in terrorism in Pakistan via Afghanistan..they please ask your govt to share it with the international community ...
Pakistan has caught Indian made weaponry from talibans including communication devices,
I am not quite sure that the weapons caught are Indian...there are many versions of the gun which is shown in the media...But any way i will give you the benefit of the doubt...

Hell the weapon was Indian...it was stolen in an attack on Border Road Organization camp by the Taliban.

Won't you think IF ...IF India was involved in taliban war it will be a bit more careful so that its name does not get dragged into the war.

So lets not start this that india is just helping in construstion alone, No one is stupid on this site to buy your stories here.....

Probably India wants a Military base in Afghanistan and that is why all this reconstruction work...Ever thought of that ?
 
Well you will also read Indian involvment in afganistan beyond construction, Pakistan has accused India for terrorism in Pakistan, Pakistan has caught Indian made weaponry from talibans including communication devices, So lets not start this that india is just helping in construstion alone, No one is stupid on this site to buy your stories here..... NOW REPLY IN CIVALIZED MANNERS

Yeah and as evidence, your Army pulled out an uncircumcised dead body and called it a dead 'Hindu taliban'. Also some clips of malnurished looking guys claiming that they were being paid by RAW. Honestly, you have to do better than that.
 
All i can do is laugh at you at this moment, Since you are too brain washed by Bollywood, Wake up and smell the coffee buddy boy. Pakistani army had caught Indian made gun( simple words will help you understand) weapons, communication devices( people or terrorist talk through them to counter Pak army) Indian made bullets, Indian 17 consulates along Pakistan and afgan border??????? Filled with Indian RAW agent's, there are reports that india is spending 1 billion in afganistan!!! You are rich with 700 million indian people don't have reach to public bathrooms, Now Uncircumcised dead bodies, their DNA have been taken and these monsters are Indian's, Muslims are all circumcised, They are supposed to be these best muslim, isn't it ( beast muslim means that terrorist claim themself the best muslims) Now you are telling me that those jihadis who are so strict about everything else they won't be circumcised, Buddy boy you are hindu that is why you don't get it, I am muslim and we are muslim and we understadn how serious it is, You can be ignorent by simply laughing at it, But then what about the weaponry? Stop thinking that India is so poviter.... We don't say that Pakistan is so clean. We play dirty too same as USA's CIA or israel's MOSSAD, stop saying that india is so clean, All the country play dirty games and we did in 80's now you are playing it, But we are men we don't complain like you guys did, We will simply play it dirtier and counter all the indian moves and world moves. This is a Nation of 170 million we rise agaisnt everyone when needed. now take a walk please and think what i have said
 

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