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He added that India had deployed 900,000 troops to crush the Kashmiri people’s legitimate freedom struggle and committing massive human rights violations. Ambassador Akram said that settlers from outside IIOJK were being brought in to transform the Muslim majority state into a Hindu majority territory.

Every time Pakistan speaks in the UNGA it doesnt bother to do a copy check. 900,000 troops. Lol. India would capture Azad Kashmir with those numbers. BTW a simple google search would tell you how many troops does India have and how many are posted in Kashmir.
 
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Every time Pakistan speaks in the UNGA it doesnt bother to do a copy check. 900,000 troops. Lol. India would capture Azad Kashmir with those numbers. BTW a simple google search would tell you how many troops does India have and how many are posted in Kashmir.
So says a bobblehead bharti whose ilk never gets tired of throwing out an outrageous number, 90k+ pakistani POWs in east pakistan. Go away indian, you are not wanted here.
 
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Every time Pakistan speaks in the UNGA it doesnt bother to do a copy check. 900,000 troops. Lol. India would capture Azad Kashmir with those numbers. BTW a simple google search would tell you how many troops does India have and how many are posted in Kashmir.


what ever the number is the fact remains the same.. a large numbers of soldiers are being used to oppress and supress Kashmir freedom movement.

they are not there to fight terrorism as Indian soldiers only create terrorism
 
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India doesn’t even qualify for UNSC membership, Pakistan tells UNGA as it debates reforms
Ambassador says India has waged 20 wars since Independence and is especially fomenting terrorism against Pakistan


APPNovember 17, 2020

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Ambassador Munir Akram. PHOTO: APP
UNITED NATIONS:
Pakistan told the UN General Assembly again on Monday that India does not even qualify for a seat on the 15-member United Nations Security Council (UNSC), citing New Delhi’s violations of its resolutions on Indian Illegally Occupied Jammu and Kashmir (IIOJK).
Ambassador Munir Akram reaffirmed Pakistan’s opposition to adding new permanent members in UNSC and reminded the United Nations General Assembly (UNGA) that the South Asian country [India] had waged 20 wars since independence and fomented terrorism and instability across the region, especially against Pakistan.
Without naming India, which along with three other countries — Brazil, Germany and Japan (known as G-4) — had been campaigning for permanent membership, Ambassador Akram said that, “We have clear and ample evidence of this state-sponsored terrorism.”
“It [India] stands in violation of the UN Security Council resolutions calling for the final disposal of the disputed State of the Jammu and Kashmir through the exercise of self-determination by the people of the State in a free and fair plebiscite under UN auspices,” the Pakistani diplomat told the 193-member assembly which was debating the Security Council reform aimed at making it more representative, responsive, democratic and transparent — but the progress remains stalled.
He added that India had deployed 900,000 troops to crush the Kashmiri people’s legitimate freedom struggle and committing massive human rights violations. Ambassador Akram said that settlers from outside IIOJK were being brought in to transform the Muslim majority state into a Hindu majority territory.
“It [India] threatens aggression against Pakistan and resorts to daily artillery and small arms fire, targeting innocent civilians on our side of the Line of Control (LoC) in Jammu and Kashmir,” the ambassador stated. “This country has no qualification for membership of the Security Council — permanent or even non-permanent,” he maintained.
Full-scale negotiations to reform the Security Council began in the General Assembly in February 2009 on five key areas — the categories of membership, the question of veto, regional representation, size of an enlarged Security Council, and working methods of the council and its relationship with the General Assembly.
Despite a general agreement on enlarging the council, as part of the UN reform process, member states remain sharply divided over the details.
The G-4 countries had shown no flexibility in their campaign to expand the UNSC by 10 seats, with six additional permanent and four non-permanent members.
On the other hand, the Italy and Pakistan-led Uniting for Consensus (UfC) group firmly opposed any additional permanent members, saying that such a move would not make the Security Council more effective and also undermine the fundamental principle of democracy that is based on periodic elections.
The Security Council was currently composed of five permanent members — Britain, China, France, Russia and the United States — and 10 non-permanent members.
Ambassador Akram further added that UfC’s proposal reflected the most suitable basis for an agreement on comprehensive reform. He added that it was fair and equitable which respected the principle of sovereign equality of states and does not discriminate between them.
“If it is approved, it will obtain the largest possible support in the General Assembly and the essential ratification of all the [five] permanent members of the Security Council,” he said.
The UfC proposal, he added, was also flexible and through variable arrangements, accommodates the aspirations and interests of the majority of the UN membership, including African and other regional groups such as the Arab Group and the OIC.
He pointed out that that UfC looks at Africa’s collective desire for representation differently; its absence was a historical injustice. Africa was seeking a larger number of non-permanent and two empowered permanent seats for the continent.
“The UfC is prepared to explore with the African Group how their regional approach could be adapted to enable all regions to be able to select their own candidates for membership in an expanded Security Council,” the Pakistani envoy added.
Ambassador Akram added that the reform of the Security Council must be part of a broader revival of the multilateral system as it was conceived under the [UN] charter.
“At the same time, the balance between the Council and the General Assembly, the Economic and Social Council (ECOSOC) and other UN organs must be restored to reinvigorate the entire multilateral system,” he said.

I heard this speech live and the facial expressions of certain delegates was quite revealing. What benefit does India or Brazil or Germany provide to the world by getting into the UNSC. India is involved militarily against Pakistan and China and if they can have their way they would want to annex Nepal and Bangladesh as well.

For a country that claims to be an upcoming world leader in most things the only reliable export industry is Bollywood - even that has run our of quality scripts now. Germany has more of a case so does Brazil. Specially Brazil they have the largest military in South America and they use it to provide security and limit conflict between other south American countries. India is a no brainer. The only way they can get this membership with all the existing saga will be if all current members turn a blind eye to what is going on in and around India.
 
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And need to start from Akshai Chin because UN resolution was for entire J&K including present china and Pakistan parts.

You are saying that as if India will then accept UN resolution. India will not trust a dog from Kashmir; forget the will of its people. India has no intentions of doing so, and because of this, this saga will continue.
 
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You are saying that as if India will then accept UN resolution. India will not trust a dog from Kashmir; forget the will of its people. India has no intentions of doing so, and because of this, this saga will continue.

I am saying that why would only india accept any resolution. if resolution is there then all countries should accept.

I meant that China, pakistan and India.

Since i know that it is not possible than I always say that it is dead horse but leaders still beating to get political gain in Pakistan. CHina and india, both never talk about UN resolution on J & k.

There is no any separate UN resolution on only indian part of kashmir.
 
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I am saying that why would only india accept any resolution. if resolution is there then all countries should accept.

I meant that China, pakistan and India.

Since i know that it is not possible than I always say that it is dead horse but leaders still beating to get political gain in Pakistan. CHina and india, both never talk about UN resolution on J & k.

There is no any separate UN resolution on only indian part of kashmir.

But the biggest drag this dead horse is creating is on India.
India has ambitions - this dead horse will slow it down. Unilaterally India will never implement this resolution, collectively there is not enough trust to do it. Only option is time - until such time that one major party becomes so weak that it loses control completely.
 
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No one cares about Pakistan and its usual rants.

On one hand India is on its way for UNSC permanent seat and on another one pakistan was celebrating that it has not been put into FATF Black list for harbouring and financing terrorism throughout the world.

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But the biggest drag this dead horse is creating is on India.
India has ambitions - this dead horse will slow it down. Unilaterally India will never implement this resolution, collectively there is not enough trust to do it. Only option is time - until such time that one major party becomes so weak that it loses control completely.

Problems in kashmir, don't go so deep because other muslims states can live with India without issues. So why not kashmir? Answer is very simple because of external interference and it is just became play card of India and Pakistan, specially for army and politicians..

Reg. UN qualification if china can qualify than why not india?

Even I don't think that Pakistan will get 3 supports on her view from the world.
 
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India is not trusted in South Asia and open conflict with other U.N members Including a brutal occupation of Kashmiri at the same time becoming increasingly hindutva extremist and banning groups like amnesty

India has no chance
 
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Problems in kashmir, don't go so deep because other muslims states can live with India without issues. So why not kashmir? Answer is very simple because of external interference and it is just became play card of India and Pakistan, specially for army and politicians..

Reg. UN qualification than if china can qualify than why not india?

Even I don't think that Pakistan will get even 3 supports on her view from the world.

Nation states have their own foreign policy and preferences not all countries define their relationship with another country exclusively on the merits of one's religion. That trait is reserved for very few nations.

I still wouldn't count this as being in the bag for India, some UNSC members (USA/UK) like to believe in balance of power (at least on paper) by letting India into UNSC they are forcing Pakistan into a corner. So while this year has been full of surprises and setbacks just be ready for another one.
 
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