India does not have an ICBM programme

[paritosh]

So this kind of debate would never produce results. Its important to talk about what is already created instead of one is capable of. Maybe India can and would be able to create an ICBM. But the fact that India can send an orbitor to the moon or to geosynchronous orbit doesn't mean that India has ICBM capability as these two are not exactly the same technology. You can say that as acountry that can send satellite to the geosynchronous orbit, it has part of the technology that is similar to ICBM. But that doesn't mean that India already has ICBM technology or can easily produce one. So from the perspective of debating, India has no such capability.

Otherwise, there is no basis for debating a capability.

from what I know...
the ICBM needs a strong rocket motor...
the GSLV has an Indian 4,700Kn rocket engine...a 10000 km ICBM like the Jericho of Israel has a motor of 1000kn...so we have the power

the ICBM needs very good processors...for course correction and navigation...which with our space program (which involves a lot of 3-d space navigation...heck even the stationery satellites require a hell lot of inertial stability control) we have had good experience with course correction and on-board computers with such capability.

and ICBM also needs capable re-entry vehicles...we have been testing re-entry vehicles for some time now...
India Launches Rocket to Test Re-Entry - Space News - redOrbit

SRE-1 safe return makes India's re-entry technology a great success - Instablogs

India tests system for human spaceflight - Space- msnbc.com

so there is no reason that it should be difficult.

 

[jha]

So, tell me what is the similarity between ICBM and PSLV? The similarity is they both fly to the sky???

in that case i do not find any need to give reasons to you sire...sorry that i replied and tried to put some logic....

 

[paritosh]

My, my, Iran is one country India has a very good relationship no matter what spin others put on it. One of the most successful community in India traces its lineage from there. Persian was a court language once upon a time. I would just consider this guy from Iran to be just kidding when he rants anti India stuff. In spite of voting against Iran on the nuke thing, India still has a very good relationship with Iran.

Yusuf...he doesn't speak for all of Iran.
doesn't matter what he thinks.

 

[chinapakistan]

in that case i do not find any need to give reasons to you sire...sorry that i replied and tried to put some logic....

Or you dont know any reasons about that. And man only believe truth, not who is saying what.

 

[jagjitnatt]

Again, any src or supporting???

An ICBM is just a warhead propelled by a rocket, if you missed any school classes.

India has the capability to launch satellites, its has its own launch vehicles (rockets). The same launch vehicles can be used as missile after attaching a warhead and reprogramming the course of the rocket.

I can't find a reason why you cannot understand this.

India currently doesn't need huge stockpile of missiles. Its not in a state of war or even remotely close to war with any other country in the world. It would be foolish to spend billions on missile program when the same money could be used to build infrastructure. Exactly that is being done. India can afford slow progress with missile. We have our priorities straight.

Of course we could have created multiple ICBMs if we had a 10trillion dollar economy.

 

[faithfulguy]

An ICBM is just a warhead propelled by a rocket, if you missed any school classes.

India has the capability to launch satellites, its has its own launch vehicles (rockets). The same launch vehicles can be used as missile after attaching a warhead and reprogramming the course of the rocket.

I can't find a reason why you cannot understand this.

India currently doesn't need huge stockpile of missiles. Its not in a state of war or even remotely close to war with any other country in the world. It would be foolish to spend billions on missile program when the same money could be used to build infrastructure. Exactly that is being done. India can afford slow progress with missile. We have our priorities straight.

Of course we could have created multiple ICBMs if we had a 10trillion dollar economy.

I think India should come under US nuclear umbrella. India can then develop its economy like Japan and won't have to worry about developing nuclear missiles.

 

[LCA Tejas]

I think India should come under US nuclear umbrella. India can then develop its economy like Japan and won't have to worry about developing nuclear missiles.

We already are under russias Nuke umbrella.... We dont need more umbrellas dude...

 

[Kinetic]

Are you talking about every country can launch satellites can produce ICBM??? Are you talking about a country can make tracks can make hybrid car??? And Are you talking about a country can make a memory can make high performance CPU??? Are you talking about a system can work well on windows so that system can aslo work well on Linux??? What a logic!! And I am aslo suprised there are many indian member agree with you.

I think you don't have any knowledge about space and rocket technology as well as tracks/hybrid car or memory/CPU.

Do you ever heard of Topol, SS-18 and R-7? They are ICBMs but they can launch satellite into space as well. Every SLV in the world is a missile themselves. For example PSLV is a heavy ICBM itself, just need to change the software a bit.

And the post of faithfulguy aslo make the same sense, you should take a look, things dont go well like bcoz the are similar in aspect, so one of them worked, the others will aslo work. They are different tech.

No they are not different! Go and watch videos of ICBMs launching satellites into space.

 

[Ingis]

I think India should come under US nuclear umbrella. India can then develop its economy like Japan and won't have to worry about developing nuclear missiles.

That is not possible.

People keep forgetting the fact that when every Asian country was running behind USA during Cold War, India was perhaps one of the only countries which stood its ground and continued to embrace the USSR and defied America.

American hawks themselves agree that USA can never be a true friend of any nation because USA considers its own interests to be supreme. That is case with every nation but USA has a habit of shamelessly leaving its friends out in the cold if there is a conflict of interest.

USSR was a different story. Too bad the Soviet Union does not exist anymore.

India might be close to USA now because of economic and strategic links but India can never trust the USA to be a reliable ally. That is a fact and everyone knows that.

 

[jha]

Or you dont know any reasons about that. And man only believe truth, not who is saying what.

its about china ..but lets see..

CIA Compares Long March To Chinese ICBM

 

[jha]

@ kinetic ...no use educating him...you will die trying...

 

[jha]

@ chinpakistan

here is another one YOUR HONOR..

launch vehicle (rocket system) :: Early Soviet launch vehicles -- Britannica Online Encyclopedia

 

[chinapakistan]

I think you don't have any knowledge about space and rocket technology as well as tracks/hybrid car or memory/CPU.

Do you ever heard of Topol-M and R-7? They are ICBMs but they can launch satellite into space as well. Every SLV in the world is a missile themselves. For example PSLV is a heavy ICBM itself, just need to change the software a bit.

No they are not different! Go and watch videos of ICBMs launching satellites into space.

Yes, I dont, but arccording to what you said, it seems you are know less than me about space and rocket. I think you should read the article below. ICBM doesnt go like what you said change the software a bit. After launching a ICBM may release several independent warheads, and penetration aids such as metallic-coated balloons, aluminum chaff, and full-scale warhead decoys. And I aslo suggest you read some article about ICBM. Launching ICBM is a very easy phase, but make the ICBM hit the target authenticitily is far difficult than just launching a rockets.

The following flight phases can be distinguished:

boost phase: 3 to 5 minutes (shorter for a solid rocket than for a liquid-propellant rocket); altitude at the end of this phase is typically 150 to 400 km depending on the trajectory chosen, typical burnout speed is 7 km/s.
midcourse phase: approx. 25 minutes—sub-orbital spaceflight in an elliptic orbit; the orbit is part of an ellipse with a vertical major axis; the apogee (halfway the midcourse phase) is at an altitude of approximately 1,200 km; the semi-major axis is between 3,186 km and 6,372 km; the projection of the orbit on the Earth's surface is close to a great circle, slightly displaced due to earth rotation during the time of flight; the missile may release several independent warheads, and penetration aids such as metallic-coated balloons, aluminum chaff, and full-scale warhead decoys.
reentry phase (starting at an altitude of 100 km): 2 minutes—impact is at a speed of up to 4 km/s (for early ICBMs less than 1 km/s); see also maneuverable reentry vehicle.

 

[chinapakistan]

@ chinpakistan

here is another one YOUR HONOR..

launch vehicle (rocket system) :: Early Soviet launch vehicles -- Britannica Online Encyclopedia

That is Sovet, not indian, they dont just have the tech to launch rocket but tech I mentioned in my last post. But, there are not src supporting india has those tech.

 

[Kinetic]

@ kinetic ...no use educating him...you will die trying...

Thanks for the important info!