"INDIA DOCTRINE-Some Info on the collaborators/contributors"

[ahmeddsid]

^^^^ An eye opener for those not knowing anything about these so called "WORLD RENOWNED JOURNALISTS!" Munshi Sir, do u still say that these guys are Journalists?? They are not Journalists! They at best equals talk show hosts!

 

[Flintlock]

Gunaratna seems like an extreme-right winger and a supporter of the GWOT...

 

[ahmeddsid]

Gunaratna seems like an extreme-right winger and a supporter of the GWOT...

Whatever he is, He is not a JOURNALIST or a Writer Par Excellence

 

[valkyr]

actually ahmedsid I may not totally absolve RAW and MI Dte from any covert op to assasinate or do anything to paralyze the Chinese and Pakistani establishments.

If you can, then kindly do find out about the Indian Army Special Group, its mode/criteria of selection (the unwritten one), its op parameters, its direct supervision and its primary task. Please it is not a part of SAG (51st Special Action Group) or NSG or SF.......

Also kindly do find out about VIKAS units being operated and especially the exclusive women company in one of them ......

in the end also I can verify one known op ...... two attempts were made to assasinate President Zia-ul-Haq ....... and both failed ..... one was in 1982 the other in 1984 ...... in one the malfunction of the Stinger being fired caused the failure when there was a clear shot ....... the person who did it is presently retired from IA and leading a very happy contented life ...

 

[ahmeddsid]

actually ahmedsid I may not totally absolve RAW and MI Dte from any covert op to assasinate or do anything to paralyze the Chinese and Pakistani establishments.

If you can, then kindly do find out about the Indian Army Special Group, its mode/criteria of selection (the unwritten one), its op parameters, its direct supervision and its primary task. Please it is not a part of SAG (51st Special Action Group) or NSG or SF.......

Also kindly do find out about VIKAS units being operated and especially the exclusive women company in one of them ......

in the end also I can verify one known op ...... two attempts were made to assasinate President Zia-ul-Haq ....... and both failed ..... one was in 1982 the other in 1984 ...... in one the malfunction of the Stinger being fired caused the failure when there was a clear shot ....... the person who did it is presently retired from IA and leading a very happy contented life ...

Yeah, I know, But Its not Like how Mr Munshi and Co Make it out. Even if their neighbors cat gets Pregnant they will blame it on the Infiltration of the Cat Community by RAW cats!!!! They dont know what is RAW or for that Matter some might not even know what RAW stands for! Its all in the game and the name is blame!

 

[valkyr]

an interesting read

The Assassination of General Zia

 

[SurvivoR]

Yeh, I am also thinking the same thing, where were they, I think you better know, where were they.

Dabloo

They were busy in killing Karkare.

 

[SurvivoR]

It realy amuzes me how the word Paranoid gets fit on some people.

Munshi i feel you are bombard by some extremely paranoids.

 

[valkyr]

It realy amuzes me how the word Paranoid gets fit on some people.

Munshi i feel you are bombard by some extremely paranoids.

nope

not paranoids ...... but sceptics am sure ...........!!!!

I mean he has given credit to RAW for something it is inept at ...... and India holds this perception ..... that RAW is bungling and ineffectual ........ so if you are giving credit to it for something which is done by Mossad/ISI/KGB(FSB) etc then its hard to digest

But I agree to what he says ....... yes there are involvements definitely and quite effective

I remember seeing a brief once where a PA officer was shown standing behind PM Benazir Bhutto at a top secret conference of PA commanders at Skardu ......

and I later met that same officer in Indian Infantry colors at College of Combat (now Army War College) at Mhow at his course .......

also while at Ganganagar, there would be briefs of days important discussions/points avaliable as transcripts from Lahore HQ ......

intel is good ....

 

[dabloo]

They were busy in killing Karkare.

Yeh I know,

We also got hold of 1 alive, rest 9 were martyred, gone to heaven enjoying......, the one we caught is getting the taste of Mumbai Crime Branch which is world famous for it fondness with criminals.

Regards

Dabloo

 

[ahmeddsid]

Okay People, Lets not Bring in the Mumbai Carnage here, Lets leave it to Pakistan and India to sort out. And Please no PERSONAL ATTACKS Here, I dont want any in a Thread I started.

 

[dabloo]

My thoughts on these so called Journalists , Dr. Rohan Gunanaratna, I had already posted about him, he is just a liar.

While both Ikram Sehgal & Ahmed Qureshi are Pakistanis, so it is obvious that they will write against India, otherwise in pakistan, nobody must have known these two name. Just like Pravin Togadia in India.

Regards

Dabloo

 

[valkyr]

actually the term could have been indira doctrine ..... as formulated by Indira Gandhi

It was formulated by Indira Gandhi post-1969 and was tested for the first time in Bangladesh. The concept calls for establishment of Indian supremacy in South Asia with effective power projections into the surrounding seas, ocean and SE Asia as also middle eastern regions till madagascar ...... and absolute Indian dominance in sub-continent.

Fd Marshal Manekshaw was given 6 months to prepare for war and then escalation was done .... similarly in 1983 15 Inf Div was prepared to intervene "humanitarianly" in Srilanka. Only her untimely assasination delayed induction of IA into SL till later.

The same doctrine has now been modified to ensure major role in CARs and SEAsia as also in surrounding regions. With economic development at a greater rate the realisation of this doctrines objectives are not too far off.

LTTE has been cut down to size, it grew too big for its own boots and the recent SL success can be attributed to passive Indian intervention by IN in ensuring complete blockade of LTTE supply lines, covert Ops undertaken by MARCOS to support SL initiatives, active support to SL in terms of logistical and equipment provision as also real time information of battlefield and intel.

The LTTE example is an example to highlight the role India has and will continue to have in stability in region.

Nepal is another case study. The fall of erstwhile King from Indian graces ensured his downfall. Infact China had chosen to support him instead, while India had stressed on democracy even if CPN is voted to power. The elections in Bhutan are also in sync with the policy of promoting democracy ...... the aim is to ensure democracy as that does serve Indian interests in the end

The recent BD results also show that India can mobilise resources to ensure victory in certain places. The BD have fears of India working to declare them a failed state, something stressed by Barrister Munshi ..... but that is a bit of an overreaction as it will NOT be in Indian interest to have BD as a failed state and an ineffectual leadership there as that opens the doors for radicalisation.

 

[valkyr]

read this

http://www.sangam.org/articles/view2/446.html

 

[ahmeddsid]

What I feel is that, Basically some people from Bangladesh Didnt want to Split from Pakistan and I wont blame them, because they see Pakistan as a strong Nuclear power, with a good Defence Forces. Its admiration which has let them to this notion, and Again I wont blame them.

On the other Hand, this makes them hate India and everything Indian and goes onto blame India for the pettiest of things.