India Developing, but still a long way to go

[Nitro]

lagta hai jab tak congress rahi gi government main india developing long way hi rha ga......

 

[Abingdonboy]

^^ I wondered if that was the case. Since i'm from Lahore, it's also expanding outwards. Most people consider similarities between the two i don't exactly why. Either there are close to each other or they are known as cities of culture. I guess the high rise part is not considered as it might look to ruin its original architecture that it was historically known for. I don't know about Delhi, but certainly in Lahore, we make use of our traditional red bricks....

From what I see Delhi is very much trying to blend its history/culture and modernity. For example the Delhi Metro connected "old Delhi" and took extra care not to damage the historic buildings that had no foundations. But you will modern buildings like in the West in Delhi that are all steel and glass.

 

[karan21]

^^ I wondered if that was the case. Since i'm from Lahore, it's also expanding outwards. Most people consider similarities between the two i don't exactly why. Either there are close to each other or they are known as cities of culture. I guess the high rise part is not considered as it might look to ruin its original architecture that it was historically known for. I don't know about Delhi, but certainly in Lahore, we make use of our traditional red bricks....

tbh I don't want delhi to go highrise anyways. Delhi is a beautifull city clean and high tech. Has got a top notch delhi metro and connecting Gurgaon metro. It has a world class airport. Top quality highways, expressways and roads. It also has a very nice city wide security system. Now soon it will have monorails. What else you want man.. Everyone is happy with the way delhi develops and its better than Mumbai and Pune.

 

[Edevelop]

tbh I don't want delhi to go highrise anyways. Delhi is a beautifull city clean and high tech. Has got a top notch delhi metro and connecting Gurgaon metro. It has a world class airport. Top quality highways, expressways and roads. It also has a very nice city wide security system. Now soon it will have monorails. What else you want man.. Everyone is happy with the way delhi develops and its better than Mumbai and Pune.

Well high-rise has become popular culture, so i wondered if they were doing it in Delhi too. You are right about having monorails, metros, and other forms of transportation. That is something every city must have. When i look at Lahore and Delhi, i see potential. Its good if they are not going high-rise. I hope they have similar charm as London and Rome.

 

[karan21]

Well high-rise has become popular culture, so i wondered if they were doing it in Delhi too. You are right about having monorails, metros, and other forms of transportation. That is something every city must have. When i look at Lahore and Delhi, i see potential. Its good if they are not going high-rise. I hope they follow the similar charm as London and Rome.

Well highrises in delhi and Lahore is inevitable. Our planners know this and are working on this. With economic development in India cities are getting crowded and income is rising rapidly. This is the perfect recipe for builders. That what they want. Mumbai now has about 800 highrises under cons all over the place. NCR is getting low highrises and soon will go for supertalls. 2-3 supertalls have already started cons in NCR.

 

[AnmolSingh]

Saddi Dilli


New project/tower by 3C called Lotus peak at sector 100, Noida.
43 floors tall.

Source: TOI

More of brays buzz(80 floors)






Sikka Dream Heights(80 floors ).

Source:

Some more info about the structure of Sikka Dream Heights,

Source:

Project Name : SIKKA
Location: Gurgaon
Architect : C.P KUKREJA ASSOCIATES
This project belongs to Sikka Developers
Pvt. Ltd. This is a high-end residential
development contain the Various façade
element (i.e. Unitized Glazing, External
Screen, Casement windows, Railing),
where the major area is of Unitized
Glazing.
It is the fourth approved supertall in NCR

 

[Abingdonboy]

Chattisgarh has one of the best PDS in the country, managing to supply grains to almost its entire needy citizens with minimum pilferage. C Garh has now introduced smart cards for PDS.

PDS gets smart

Basant Jagat pulls a rickshaw in Raipur, the capital of Chhattisgarh, to support his family. On a good day, he can earn up to Rs 200; on bad days, he has to contend with Rs 150. The money is just enough for his family of six to keep body and soul together. If he doesn’t go out to work for a day or two, the financial stress begins to tell. Till a couple of months ago, Jagat would face a dilemma every month. He draws ration from fair price shops, where grain, sugar, and kerosene are sold at prices subsidised by the government. There would be serpentine queues in front of these shops. He would have to wait the whole day to get his quota of ration. At times, the wait could be as long as three days. That would deprive him of his earnings. What should he sacrifice: inexpensive ration or his income?

But now he has no such worries. That’s because the Chhattisgarh government has launched an innovative scheme that aims to revamp the public distribution system, or PDS, and, in the process, weed out pilferages to the black market, remove corruption and make life hassle-free for poor folks like Jagat. The scheme is called CORE PDS, and is based on the latest information technology tools: smart cards, hand-held point-of-sale devices at ration shops and servers that store all data and monitor all transactions. It is the brainchild of a technical director with the National Informatics Centre who is currently posted at Raipur.

Here’s how it works. Instead of a traditional ration card made of paper, people like Jagat have been issued smart cards which carry his personal details and also his ration entitlement. Every time his card is swiped at a ration shop, the state knows how much he has drawn vis-à-vis his quota. All the ration shops have been linked by satellite. So, if there is a queue of people at one shop, Jagat is free to go to another shop. It is like modern banking — customers are no longer tied down to one branch or shop. The pilot is running successfully in Raipur where 72,000 smart cards have been issued, and will be extended to Rajnandgaon and Durg from November 1. By June next year, it will be in operation in all the towns and cities of the state.

This works in different ways. One, the ration shop has to electronically inform how much stock it has received, which can be matched instantly with what was despatched from the government’s warehouse. Earlier, when all records were offline, much of the ration was stolen in transit, and the work of matching despatches and receipts was enormous, and therefore seldom undertaken. So, that leakage has been plugged. Two, the government knows precisely how much of the ration received by each shop has been sold to the card holders. In the past, unscrupulous shopkeepers would show on paper that the ration was sold to the poor and then sell large quantities in the open market. (Halwais, for instance, are known to be big buyers of sugar meant for PDS). That cannot be done now, unless the shopkeeper gives lesser to the buyer than what is swiped on the card. Actually, it is now in the shopkeeper’s interest to see that his stocks are full and not leaked to non-entitled buyers. Or else, the smart-card holders will just go to the next shop.

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Officers of the Chhattisgarh government are satisfied with the outcomes, though they don’t have a precise idea of how much of the ration meant for PDS was getting stolen. But the numbers could be substantial. Consider this. In Delhi, half the petrol sold in fuel stations is believed to be adulterated with kerosene meant for PDS. At least 40 per cent of the grain meant for the poor gets diverted to the market. Economists have estimated that the national scam here could be to the tune of Rs 16,000 crore in a year. It’s a small beginning to solve a monumental problem.

The process of computerising the PDS supply chain started some six years ago and was completed in 2007-08. The CORE PDS scheme started in July 2011 when the state began to compile data of individuals from the ration card. Based on that data, each below-poverty-line beneficiary was provided with a smart ration card. In April this year, 147 ration shops were equipped with a point-of-sale device with GPRS connectivity to operate the smart card. Ration is given manually at the shop but the authentication and recording of transaction on the server is done electronically, through the point-of-sale device.

On the beneficiary’s demand, the shopkeeper or his salesman enters the quantity of ration he wants to purchase and submits it to the server, which updates the transaction and gives the success report. Thereafter, a receipt is printed and the commodities are issued to the beneficiary. Chief Minister Raman Singh has named the point-of-sale device Annapoorna ATM — an ATM for grain. The beneficiary can use the card anywhere in the city and collect ration. He has the freedom to buy sugar from one outlet and wheat from another — the details of his purchase and entitlement appear on the smart card at all times. “I now carry the card with me while peddling my rickshaw through the city and purchase ration from any shop where the rush is less,” Jagat says. Of course, this doesn’t crimp his daily earnings.

This is just an instance of relief; the 72,000 card holders in Raipur can’t stop recounting the advantages of CORE PDS, and how it has improved their lives. “Earlier, the head of the family on whose name the ration card was issued had to go to the shop for collecting ration,” says Tahshil Kanpan who works in a private automobile components shop. Now, his children take the smart card to the shop and get the ration without any problem. This has helped Kanpan attend office without break.

Over the years, the shopkeepers had become brazen. They perhaps knew that a large number of poor people depended on them for their food; as a result, not only had they become corrupt but also arrogant. But all that is history, in Raipur at least. Punitram Pradhan, who stays in Shakti Nagar, says the shopkeeper in his area was so arrogant that he wouldn’t give ration to you if you failed to pick it up for one month. “We are poor people and depend on daily wages,” Pradhan says. Sometimes, people like Pradhan may not have enough money to purchase ration from the shop. Earlier, they would be penalised for it. But now they can just move to another shopkeeper. And that’s precisely what Pradhan and most of the people in his area have done.

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Many shops in the city have had to close down following such migration to other shops. Kaushlendra Singh, the managing director of Chhattisgarh Food and Civil Supplies Corporation, says about 25 shops in the city had closed after CORE PDS started. “Since there is the condition that the ration shop has to lift 25 per cent of the allotted stock, these 25 shops failed as people weren’t turning up,” Singh says, adding that the district administration had to close the shops. This has kicked off competition among the ration shops. “The competition has forced the owners to ensure that they stock the best quality of commodities and to behave properly with the customers,” says Roshani Sahu who heads a self-help group that runs a ration shop in Rajatalab. It was her outlet from where CORE PDS started. Significantly, another store is located adjacent to her outlet. “This is causing us problems as people return the commodities collected from that shop claiming that the other one has better quality,” Sahu says. So Sahu needs to stock more ration.

This large-scale migration from one shop to another, however, has caused a new headache for the Chhattisgarh administration. It now needs to target its delivery better, in line with the shifting demands. So, a control room has been set which constantly monitors the stock status in the ration shops. “When people started switching over from one shop to the other, the demand for stock in one shop would increase and decline in another one; that was a big problem that we faced initially,” Chhattisgarh Food Secretary Vikas Sheel says.

The success of this scheme has prompted the state to start a mobile ration shop. “At present, three mobile ration vans are moving around the city,” Singh says. The day and time are fixed for each locality, where the van is stationed with the in-charge equipped with the point-of-sale device. Santoshi Kumari, a housewife in Shakti Nagar, claims that in the ration shops often one does not get all the commodities. The van carries all commodities and helps people cope with shortage in any outlet.

But this was a minor irritant in a scheme that has cleared a lot of dirt around PDS. In the past, out of all the complaints that the government received from people, 25 per cent were related to irregularities in PDS. In Raipur, such complaints have fallen to almost zero.

PDS gets smart

 

[AnmolSingh]

Grand Arch Delhi(116 meters*4 towers)

Under Construction Images

 

[Abingdonboy]

Orion mall in Bangalore is looking pretty awesome:

 

[IndoCarib]

Cutting through rock for underground section of Bangalore metro

 

[patentneer]

Lahore, Karachi and Delhi have something going among themselves re: partition aftermath.

Delhi was a Muslim city. Lahore a Sikh city. Karachi a Hindu city.


1. Delhi's Muslims went down to Karachi and along with Mumbai's, Gujarat and Bangla Muslim's took over and Krunchy turned into a Delhi-esque Urdu cosmoplitan (in the Muslim context) city.

2. Lahore emptied out too, but Pakistan was run by Punjabi military with roots in Lahore so new Lahore took off and my gora friend who spent 3 yrs. in Lahore says it's just like Toronto. Military developed Lahore.

3. Relatively new colonial Delhi emptied out of traditional Muslims too. Lahore's Sikh and singinficant Hindu Punjabi ended up in Delhi. Delhi became the new Lahore with a huge gash of partition trauma and Punjabiyyat became the new culture that subsumed Delhi's Mughlai cultural melting pot with Lucknow, Kanpur and other communities like Bengali's dissolved in it.

Inversely, India side brick-&-mortar 'Jewellery of the Crown' - Delhi, Mumbai, Calcutta even Madras were ghettoised by Indian style socialism and migration from civil war torn Punjab re: Delji-Mumbai, then Bihar civil strife and Bangladesh war re: Calcutta and lastly Sri Lanka civil war re: Madras recently. Pakistani cities of Lahore and even Karachi grew well and nicely, even with Baloch, Kashmir & lately Afghan immigrants, Indian cities in contrast had a better start but were run to the ground. India was busy doing other things like Green, Milk, education and land reform revolutions and wars with practically all it's neighbours.

Only very recent 5-7 yrs. have Indian mega-cities pulled ahead of Pak. in some areas. Meanwhile, Pak. cities are sputtering. Future 3-5 yrs.; even 10 yrs., Indian cities will leap far ahead of Pak. only because of infra. development momentum. For eg., they are building systems, like metro systems in the not-have cities of Patna, Bihar and Luckhnow, UP (Ulta Pradesh) too.

Patna Metro Proposal
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Morre Info. & (c) http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1442711&page=2

 

[Splurgenxs]

Only very recent 5-7 yrs. have Indian mega-cities pulled ahead of Pak. in some areas. Meanwhile, Pak. cities are sputtering. Future 3-5 yrs.; even 10 yrs., Indian cities will leap far ahead of Pak. only because of infra. development momentum. For eg., they are building systems, like metro systems in the not-have cities of Patna, Bihar and Luckhnow, UP (Ulta Pradesh) too.

Response to stuff that made sense:
the changes u see 5 years back were planned and executed 10 years ago, nothing happens overnight. Y bring Pakistan here?
Pakistan GDP wise is just 1/10 of India's economic size ,so its only natural to have limited infra in Pakistan.

India was Bankrupt in 1992 due to its socialism and protectionism. Pakistan Had the US backed golden age of peace and prosperity and yet it chose to become a military state rather than work for welfare. Don't mishmash history.

 

[patentneer]

Wot?

What u talk all nonsense, my family's been on both sides. Pak military built road infra. Fantastic.

Pls. control your bias, and don't knock ppl. at a personal level, we are not that kind of thread. Watch your manners.

DNA of Pak. & India politicians and people same-same. Only difference is Punjabi trauma on both sides was tempered in India by the huge depth of India's people and politico's. South and West upto Gujarat India today is remarkably different from north still. Facts!

 

[Splurgenxs]

Wot?

What u talk all nonsense, my family's been on both sides. Pak military built road infra. Fantastic!!!!?????.

Pls. control your bias, and don't knock ppl. at a personal level, we are not that kind of thread. Watch your manners.

DNA of Pak. & India politicians and people same-same. Only difference is Punjabi trauma on both sides was tempered in India by the huge depth of India's people and politico's. South and West upto Gujarat India today is remarkably different from north still. Facts!

come back when u improve ur english man,im having a hard time deciphering ur banter.

 

[Water Car Engineer]

Hyderabad Metro pillers.

2 Bangalore Metro station

SCCC