India detains Pakistani soldiers

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i am not an Indian Brahman




The Indian army is only good at shooting innocent Kashmiris and playing tomato catch up dramas,

1. Keep your casteist comments to yourself.

2. You would have cried foul if they had been shot. You are taunting the Indian army for releasing them. What the hell do you exactly want ?

3. Do all journalists in Pakistan have the habit of posting such bovine excreta?

 

[vish]

i am not an Indian Brahman






The Indian army is only good at shooting innocent Kashmiris and playing tomato catch up dramas,

Care to explain?

 

[Spring Onion]

3. Do all journalists in Pakistan have the habit of posting such bovine excreta?

All of them are good at replying to such bovine excreta posted by Indians

 

[Spring Onion]

Care to explain?

lolzzzzzzzzzz vish you keep on decreasing my reputation points everytime some post boils you up. but i wont deduct your points

 

[Spring Onion]

Care to explain?

come on dont tell me i had to explain the tomato catch up drama of Indian Army




Siachen troops face inquiry for faking kills

Josy Joseph in New Delhi | May 07, 2004 15:59 IST
Last Updated: May 07, 2004 16:24 IST


An army battalion on the Siachen glacier may have faked killings of Pakistani soldiers to claim bravery awards and military citations, a report said on Friday.The Leh-based 14 Corps headquarters is investigating the possibility that least a third of 50 'kills' in Siachen last year could be fake, according to The Hindustan Times.

The battalion could have even created dramatic videos to prove its 'efficiency', the report said.

There is no statement from army headquarters yet. But an officer told rediff.com on condition of anonymity, "From the evidence that we have, including video clips, it looks like they faked killings."

The battalion's commanding officer and others are under investigation.

A major, a member of the battalion, has given details of the operation to a court of inquiry headed by Brigadier H S Nagra, deputy general officer commanding, 3 Infantry Brigade.

The major spilled the beans after he fell out with his commanding officer, according to the report.

Between July and November 15, 2003, when the unit was posted in Siachen, the fraud was carried out under the direction of the commanding officer, who wanted his juniors to show 'initiative' in carrying out such acts, according to the major.

The major told the court of inquiry that on July 29, a lieutenant of his company reported a kill in the Chandan Complex on Siachen, though there was no enemy (Pakistani troops) movement in the area in the days before that. On August 8, the same lieutenant shot a fake video of a kill, making a rifleman play dead.

On August 24, three other 'kills' were captured on video. The colonel rang the major, asking him to ensure that it was a 'hazy video.'

The unit also built an 'enemy air defence bunker' to make the entire operation look realistic and then destroyed it for the video. On September 21, the 'enemy bunker' was destroyed using rockets and mortars. A splinter hit the major during the operation and he was evacuated. He was recommended for the Vir Chakra/Sena Medal, according to the report.

The major blew the lid off the unit's 'brave acts' last December. Since then he has briefed top commanders, including army chief General Nirmal Chand Vij.

What could open a can of worms is the major's admission before the court of inquiry that his unit is not isolated in faking kills.

On his part, the colonel as claimed that the only fake kills were those executed by the major's men.


Siachen troops face inquiry for faking kills

 

[vish]

lolzzzzzzzzzz vish you keep on decreasing my reputation points everytime some post boils you up. but i wont deduct your points

I thought these points were meant to be increased/decreased. The only reason I deducted your "points" (wonder why it bothers you) because your post is prejudiced and full of generalization. You can deduct my "points" (as if I care) if you feel the need to do so.

Your posts, as a rule, do not usually "boil" me; it is just that your prejudice and segregationism does make me wonder what you learnt about journalism. Generalizing that all Indian Brahmins are evil and bad is something that convinces of your yellow-paper journalistic approach.

Accusing the Indian Army of only being "good at shooting innocent Kashmiris and playing tomato catch up dramas" is something that speaks the most about your credibility. I've never denied that some soldiers of the IA (or the security forces of the state of J&K) have indulged in human rights violations. But stating that all the Indian Army does is "shooting innocent Kashmiris" and "playing catch up dramas" is what I call being a narrow-minded nincompoop, which I'm increasingly being convinced you are. You've wasted no time or any of your neuroplasm to generalize this "belief" of yours over an entire million men plus institution.

I'm aware of that Siachen fiasco; believe me, if I ever find those idiots, I'll give them an earful and more. However, why is it that an act committed by a dozen (hundred) or so individuals should be generalized over the entire IA? You do realize that the person(s) who orchasterated the fake kills are currently undergoing court martial, right?

Or is it perhaps you derive pleasure from flame wars? Or are you just an opportunist?

 

[Spring Onion]

I thought these points were meant to be increased/decreased. The only reason I deducted your "points" (wonder why it bothers you) because your post is prejudiced and full of generalization. You can deduct my "points" (as if I care) if you feel the need to do so.?

it dosnt bother me rather i can see the helplessness on the part of the person who has no other way but to deduct points (BTW i am not an idiot to deduct your point

Your posts, as a rule, do not usually "boil" me; it is just that your prejudice and segregationism does make me wonder what you learnt about journalism. Generalizing that all Indian Brahmins are evil and bad is something that convinces of your yellow-paper journalistic approach.?

I can understand that the word Brahmans or Brahman is adding to your BP

But thats the only thing in India that is causing all the problems for the Hindus there itself.

I'm aware of that Siachen fiasco; believe me, if I ever find those idiots, I'll give them an earful and more. However, why is it that an act committed by a dozen (hundred) or so individuals should be generalized over the entire IA? You do realize that the person(s) who orchasterated the fake kills are currently undergoing court martial, right?

Or is it perhaps you derive pleasure from flame wars? Or are you just an opportunist?

If the major did not have the rift with his senior this tomato catch up drama of Indian army will never had come to fore and there would have been no court-martial so pleaseeeeeeeeeeee do not tell me that they are clean bunch of people.


And as far generalizing things why dont you tell your countrmen not to do so when they start abusing Muslims.

 

[Flintlock]

I can understand that the word Brahmans or Brahman is adding to your BP

But thats the only thing in India that is causing all the problems for the Hindus there itself.

Apart from being off-topic and completely irrelevant to the thread, your statement is also completely false.

And as far generalizing things why dont you tell your countrmen not to do so when they start abusing Muslims.

So that's you justification for generalizing?

Atleast you admit that you are infact, generalizing.

Don't do a tu quoque here honey!

 

[vish]

it dosnt bother me rather i can see the helplessness on the part of the person who has no other way but to deduct points (BTW i am not an idiot to deduct your point

No other way but to deduct points, that is what you say? Perhaps my post answers your folly in that regard. I really do not consider points before posting so you not being an idiot by not deducting my points has little bearing on me. I was unaware that deducting points does have an effect on you.

By the way, usage of the bold font was a nice touch; speaks volumes who's shouting and venting air out here.

I can understand that the word Brahmans or Brahman is adding to your BP

No you do not understand and neither can you because you believe and see what you want to believe and see. What I really find pathetic is that you assume every Indian Brahmin as a potential evil-doer.

My BP is as it was; the last time I checked the doctor said I'm technically in a coma.

But thats the only thing in India that is causing all the problems for the Hindus there itself.

We (Indians = Hindus + Muslims + Sikhs + Christians + ...) have our own share of problems; your assessments and views are welcome; however, considering their lack of logic are rejected as unfeasible and unreal.

I've never denied that the caste system exists in India; what I find wierd is that you choose to generalize things to suit your agenda.

If the major did not have the rift with his senior this tomato catch up drama of Indian army will never had come to fore and there would have been no court-martial so pleaseeeeeeeeeeee do not tell me that they are clean bunch of people.

No bunch of people is a clean bunch of people. Please read my post again; I've clearly stated my dissatisfaction (I'm being very polite here) with the fact that you presume (a result of your generalization) that the IA is full of people who do nothing more than shooting only innocent Kashmiris and only performing tomato catch up dramas. Your generalization is what I'm dissatisfied (being polite) with.

And as far generalizing things why dont you tell your countrmen not to do so when they start abusing Muslims.

I do tell them; this is the precise reason why I'm telling you to refrain from generalization.

 

[Sam Dhanraj]

I can understand that the word Brahmans or Brahman is adding to your BP

But thats the only thing in India that is causing all the problems for the Hindus there itself.

Hmmm...Intrestining POV !!!

If the above logic is correct then one should also believe other statements when non muslims (who claim that they know about Islam Just like you really know about other religions) say...

"That Islam is the only reason that is causing terrorism and All Muslims are Terrorists"

But you know what...there still some sanity left in this world and I am glad that most people do not agree with both of the statements above like generalizing all the muslims as terrorists and brahmins with all the ills of Hindu.

At one point you want to educate the world that "all muslims are not terrorists" but unwilling to educate yourslef that "all brahmins or hindus or Indian Army soldiers" do not have blood drenched fangs and horns on their heads"

 

[Khalsa]

Hmmm...Intrestining POV !!!

If the above logic is correct then one should also believe other statements when non muslims (who claim that they know about Islam Just like you really know about other religions) say...

"That Islam is the only reason that is causing terrorism and All Muslims are Terrorists"

But you know what...there still some sanity left in this world and I am glad that most people do not agree with both of the statements above like generalizing all the muslims as terrorists and brahmins with all the ills of Hindu.

At one point you want to educate the world that "all muslims are not terrorists" but unwilling to educate yourslef that "all brahmins or hindus or Indian Army soldiers" do not have blood drenched fangs and horns on their heads"

Can't agree more

 

[dabong1]

Soldiers returned to Pak army
Tribune News Service

Jammu, June 5
Two Pakistani soldiers arrested by the Army in the Mirpur Sidhr area of Khour block in Pallanwala sector close to the Line of Control (LoC) were handed over to the Pakistan army today.

Though such incidents were extremely unusual along the heavily fortified dividing line between the two countries, yet Pakistani soldiers had 'inadvertently' strayed into the Indian territory last evening.

However, they were nabbed by 19 Sikh Light Infantry jawans at around noon after they entered the Indian territory.

Belonging to 66 Baloch Regiment, they were identified as Jameel Abbas, 35, a havildar and Ali Sagar, 25, a sepoy.

Sources said during sustained questioning by the Army they divulged that they were returning to their unit after a training session near LoC in Pak territory when they mistakenly crossed over to this side.

A Nokia cell phone with a SIM card was recovered from the possession of the Pakistani soldiers.

However, Army officers did not name the Pakistanis but confirmed that they were a havildar and a sepoy from the 66 Baloch Regiment.

"After sustained questioning we established them to be a case of inadvertent crossing and decided to restore them to the Pak Army," divulged defence sources.

Subsequently, they were handed over to the Pak Army at a Flag Meeting today at 1 pm as a goodwill gesture, they said.