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India copying Pakistani/Western Culture

From my view both Pak and India copying western culture.

@ santro - thanks telling about your visit. When you visited and how was your trip.

Yeh its true. Both try to copy western way of life i wont say its their culture :)


And this is very unfortuante that we think by adopting western way of life we become progressive.
 
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Yeh its true. Both try to copy western way of life i wont say its their culture :)


And this is very unfortuante that we think by adopting western way of life we become progressive.

Wrong. We adopt good points of our culture and merge with western style. This is something new not bad.
 
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To the gentlemen trying to own onto India's history as either This side's or that side.Let me say this:
before the Lucknow pact you were the same people with a common history, Religion was the major reason for division and rightly so.
But to think that only the Indian has right over Asoka or only the Pakistani has a right over Aurangzeb is wrong. These people were from amongst you, and most of India in their times still took them as their kings. most of those people are your ancestors. Even the Pathans who have more in common with Afghans still were culturally influenced by those from Bengal. Islam did not properly arrive in India till the 700 AD's and even then, most if not all Indians then converted and even now many of the Muslims on both sides are from the lineage of converts.Many people trace their lineage back to the prophet with pride through middle eastern Sufi and orthodox preachers but fail to see that they too converted people through which many Muslims in India and Pakistan are descended from. So while the average Subcontinent Muslim may ignore it, Asoka was as much the king of his genetic forefathers as it was of someone in Mumbai. The same goes for the average Hindu who would have genetic forefathers serving in Akbar or Sher Shah Suri's army.
Religious history which involves the all Muslims or Hindu's and does not allow Pakistani's to lay claim to Khalid bin Waleed's military prowess as part of their hereditary inheritance. Nor should it force the Indian's to disown Tipu Sultan as somebody who does not deserve recognition in the history of India as somebody who resisted an Invader to the end for his land which was Mysore.
In a nutshell, The history of India is nobody property which includes the Indus valley civilization and the Aryan Invaders..to Ranjit Singh and The first world war where Indians died for the British in the trenched of Europe
 
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Wrong. We adopt good points of our culture and merge with western style. This is something new not bad.

:) no there are many things which many Indians as well as Pakistanis also consider against their values. And i agree with them.
 
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I don't think our govt. mis teach us. We have longer chapters of aurenzeb, Akbar and mostly all empires. I have learn history books in schools which start from 1000 bc to 1947. It includes even prophet and Mecca. not sure why which is irrelevant to whole greater India.

Although I have not heard about Ranjit Singh or so yet.
 
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To the gentlemen trying to own onto India's history as either This side's or that side.Let me say this:
before the Lucknow pact you were the same people with a common history, Religion was the major reason for division and rightly so.
But to think that only the Indian has right over Asoka or only the Pakistani has a right over Aurangzeb is wrong. These people were from amongst you, and most of India in their times still took them as their kings. most of those people are your ancestors. Even the Pathans who have more in common with Afghans still were culturally influenced by those from Bengal. Islam did not properly arrive in India till the 700 AD's and even then, most if not all Indians then converted and even now many of the Muslims on both sides are from the lineage of converts.Many people trace their lineage back to the prophet with pride through middle eastern Sufi and orthodox preachers but fail to see that they too converted people through which many Muslims in India and Pakistan are descended from. So while the average Subcontinent Muslim may ignore it, Asoka was as much the king of his genetic forefathers as it was of someone in Mumbai. The same goes for the average Hindu who would have genetic forefathers serving in Akbar or Sher Shah Suri's army.
Religious history which involves the all Muslims or Hindu's and does not allow Pakistani's to lay claim to Khalid bin Waleed's military prowess as part of their hereditary inheritance. Nor should it force the Indian's to disown Tipu Sultan as somebody who does not deserve recognition in the history of India as somebody who resisted an Invader to the end for his land which was Mysore.
In a nutshell, The history of India is nobody property which includes the Indus valley civilization and the Aryan Invaders..to Ranjit Singh and The first world war where Indians died for the British in the trenched of Europe


Santro Afghans and Pathans is almost same thing if you exclude the current nationalities based on border lines. We have same bloodline.
 
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:) no there are many things which many Indians as well as Pakistanis also consider against their values. And i agree with them.

I said, we don't take it western styles as granted. We feature the best and take it and merge with our good cultural points and leave the rest for our older generation (fathers and fore...).
 
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I don't think our govt. mis teach us. We have longer chapters of aurenzeb, Akbar and mostly all empires. I have learn history books in schools which start from 1000 bc to 1947. It includes even prophet and Mecca. not sure why which is irrelevant to whole greater India.

Although I have not heard about Ranjit Singh or so yet.

doesnt make sense.. Not to have Ranjit singh. Considering he was the only dude in History who was able to rule Afghanistan inspite of being a foreigner
 
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I said, we don't take it western styles as granted. We feature the best and take it and merge with our good cultural points and leave the rest for our older generation (fathers and fore...).

Its the same in both countries but still you will see some purely western way of life which clashes with our own values.
 
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doesnt make sense.. Not to have Ranjit singh. Considering he was the only dude in History who was able to rule Afghanistan inspite of being a foreigner

Possibly I don't remember it. He might have been in the books. Because of all Mughals mentioned in Books, hardly singh could be remember.
 
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doesnt make sense.. Not to have Ranjit singh. Considering he was the only dude in History who was able to rule Afghanistan inspite of being a foreigner

Just read. He was born in Lahore and died there only. Didn't knew why we don't have deep study on him.
 
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Jana the bloodlines are the same, but the division are deeper from what I experienced..And generally, Afghanistan has a greater mix of the Uzbek line and Turks. Compared to the Pakistani side which is more Pathan generally.
Not important in medical terms, but the cultural hint is quite noticeable.
 
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Just read. He was born in Lahore and died there only. Didn't knew why we don't have deep study on him.

he carved out an independant sikh empire and his hegemony was almost all of present pakistan, punjab and major parts of Afghanistan.. though there were no capable rulers after him which caused the empire to disintegrate after that.. U must loook him up in the internet dude.. interesting story it is.

there you go..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranjit_Singh
 
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Possibly I don't remember it. He might have been in the books. Because of all Mughals mentioned in Books, hardly singh could be remember.

There is a section of history books devoted to Ranjit Singh and Sikh empire. Pls. check section of British Occupation of Punjab ....
 
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Jana the bloodlines are the same, but the division are deeper from what I experienced..And generally, Afghanistan has a greater mix of the Uzbek line and Turks. Compared to the Pakistani side which is more Pathan generally.
Not important in medical terms, but the cultural hint is quite noticeable.

If we talk in terms of people of different parts of Afghanistan then yes some parts have greater mix of Uzebks ( not sure about Turks) but then they are not Pathans, as we can see the Afghans in nothern part.


The Pathan culture in both the countries is 99% similar. rest there is a huge difference between cultures of Norther part of Afghans and the Pathan Afghans. But there is not much between Pakistani Pathans and the Afghans Pathans other than difference in Pashto dilect which can been seen in even in Pakistan among the Pathans.
 
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