India confirms presence of BLA chief Hyrbyair Marri in New Delhi

[Jacob Martin]

Why dont india give some PROOF againts lakhvi and hafiz saeed . If not to Pak give to US or some international court its height of deception . US put 1 million dollar bounty if any one can provide anything against Hafiz saeed that can be used against him in court but nothing ever came from any corner of world including india.

There is enough proof against them which is why they are designated terrorists with a bounty on their heads. The world doesn't need any more proof. Only Pakistan does.

A return to the days of CIT-X and CIT-J perhaps?

Bingo. Lesson from history - the only time India actually retaliated in asymmetric arena, it worked.

 

[Albatross]

There is enough proof against them which is why they are designated terrorists with a bounty on their heads. The world doesn't need any more proof. Only Pakistan does.



Bingo. Lesson from history - the only time India actually retaliated in asymmetric arena, it worked.

Only if indians were educated enough to read english properly only

Bounty on Saeed not for his location, but for information leading to conviction: US

Despite indian tall claims and propaganda she never was able to provide any evidence against saeed to Pak or USA and thats why USA put a bounty on any information about his alleged involvment in 26/11 that can stand test of court but no such information ever came from india as it doesnt exist.

The U.S. has announced a bounty of as much as $10 million for information leading to the arrest and conviction of Hafiz Saeed for his alleged involvement in terrorist attacks, including the 2008 strike on Mumbai that killed more than 160 people, including six Americans.
U.S. Puts $10 Million Bounty on Pakistan's Hafiz Saeed - WSJ

Shame on India for yet another propaganda story one wonder why they are not able to provide anything to US even after 7 years of incident. And the only reason that come to a logical thinker is because India herself staged that massacre to shore up international support against Pakitsan but ironically now her real terrorist supporting face is getting revealed.

 

[Bratva]

There is enough proof against them which is why they are designated terrorists with a bounty on their heads. The world doesn't need any more proof. Only Pakistan does.



Bingo. Lesson from history - the only time India actually retaliated in asymmetric arena, it worked.

People who murdered Imran farooq was arrested in Pakistan. They all know ALtaf hussain ordered them to do murder. yet Scotland yard didnt arrested Altaf for the murder of Imran farooq. Because Pakistani law and evidences can not be admitted into british court system.

A little sense from you would have resolved the issue about the legality of evidences. We asked for Ajmal qassab statement so atleast we indict Lakhvi but you refused to give access to ajmal kassab. So is this our mistake that your stupidity let lakhvi walk free ?

 

[Jacob Martin]

Only if indians were educated enough to read english properly only

Bounty on Saeed not for his location, but for information leading to conviction: US

Despite indian tall claims and propaganda she never was able to provide any evidence against saeed to Pak or USA and thats why USA put a bounty on any information about his alleged involvment in 26/11 that can stand test of court but no such information ever came from india as it doesnt exist.

The U.S. has announced a bounty of as much as $10 million for information leading to the arrest and conviction of Hafiz Saeed for his alleged involvement in terrorist attacks, including the 2008 strike on Mumbai that killed more than 160 people, including six Americans.
U.S. Puts $10 Million Bounty on Pakistan's Hafiz Saeed - WSJ

Shame on India for yet another propaganda story one wonder why they are not able to provide anything to US even after 7 years of incident. And the only reason that come to a logical thinker is because India herself staged that massacre to shore up international support against Pakitsan but ironically now her real terrorist supporting face is getting revealed.

The bounty is so that he can be convicted in Pakistan, because it is Pakistan which is PRETENDING to try his case. No one gives a bounty of millions of dollars for a person's conviction unless they are themselves convinced. The sole reason being because like any other scenario, here too Pakistani courts reject every credible evidence that is presented before them.

Nice try at fooling the world, once again....

 

[Bratva]

That is most likely because India never sponsored any arms for Baloch groups. At least until Manmohan SIngh government was in power. But with the current government, all bets are off. I will agree that India might be helping Baloch insurgents materially now. Earlier governments were by the book people. And that is most likely the reason behind lack of evidence.

Pakistan was kept on its toes all this time by the likes of Zaid Hamid, who will return from SaudiA tomorrow and say 'I told you so', but that was unnecessary.

India sponsored arms and training through Afghanistan with the help of NDS. That was the real reason !

What did you guys officially hand over to the UN ? As far as i know Zaki-ur-Rehman Lakhavi is a free man and is a patriot involved mainly in social service works in Pakistan.



You can imagine that and console yourself but reality is not as bleak as your imagination.

Post 66 and 67 pretty much covered why Lakvi is free. Because of India's own foolishness

 

[Jacob Martin]

People who murdered Imran farooq was arrested in Pakistan. They all know ALtaf hussain ordered them to do murder. yet Scotland yard didnt arrested Altaf for the murder of Imran farooq. Because Pakistani law and evidences can not be admitted into british court system.

A little sense from you would have resolved the issue about the legality of evidences. We asked for Ajmal qassab statement so atleast we indict Lakhvi but you refused to give access to ajmal kassab. So is this our mistake that your stupidity let lakhvi walk free ?

Yes, because your superb investigating agencies and ace legal resources would have extracted something new from Kassab that we had not already done. What is it that Pakistan wanted to know from Kasaab? Extradition is done on the basis of faith in the judiciary of the country trying the case. Do not try to pretend as if Pakistan ever had any intent of extraditing or sentencing Lakhvi.

 

[Ahmad Masood]

What did you guys officially hand over to the UN ? As far as i know Zaki-ur-Rehman Lakhavi is a free man and is a patriot involved mainly in social service works in Pakistan.



You can imagine that and console yourself but reality is not as bleak as your imagination.

Thats the question, if he is a real murderer then why doesnt India raise voice at the highest level? Instead of giving a reason you are telling me he is a free man. Ok. The convict of samjhota express is also free. You have to admit that Indian governmwnt has weakened its own case by not sharing proofs at the highest level.

 

[Bratva]

Yes, because your superb investigating agencies and ace legal resources would have extracted something new from Kassab that we had not already done. What is it that Pakistan wanted to know from Kasaab? Extradition is done on the basis of faith in the judiciary of the country trying the case. Do not try to pretend as if Pakistan ever had any intent of extraditing or sentencing Lakhvi.

The statement from a Pakistani citizen recorded by Pakistani lawyers anywhere in the world accusing another Pakistani citizen is admissible in the court of law. India or Indian recording a statement of a Pakistani in India or anywhere else accusing other Pakistani is non admissible in court of law in Pakistan

Read up the law of India and Germany. Everywhere it is same. Dont act as petulant and ignorant child whose mouth and fingers runs off faster than his brain can think

 

[Albatross]

The bounty is so that he can be convicted in Pakistan, because it is Pakistan which is PRETENDING to try his case. No one gives a bounty of millions of dollars for a person's conviction unless they are themselves convinced. The sole reason being because like any other scenario, here too Pakistani courts reject every credible evidence that is presented before them.

Nice try at fooling the world, once again....

Convinced by what hindu rhetoric ??

If you guys would have shared any credible proof that can withstand court tests US wont waste a second sharing it with us as we handed over to US hundred of men against whom they gave us evidence why not saeed.

Nobody including india and US have any proof against him and thats the ugly truth right in your face.

 

[Jacob Martin]

India sponsored arms and training through Afghanistan with the help of NDS. That was the real reason !



Post 66 and 67 pretty much covered why Lakvi is free. Because of India's own foolishness

Yes, because Pakistan has taken action against LeT, JuD etc. before. right?

From the US Department of State, Annual Report on Terror, 2014:

Pakistan continued to experience significant terrorist violence, including sectarian attacks. The Pakistani military undertook operations against groups that conducted attacks within Pakistan such as TTP, but did not take action against other groups such as Lashkar e-Tayyiba, which continued to operate, train, rally, propagandize, and fundraise in Pakistan. Afghan Taliban and HQN leadership continued to find safe haven in Pakistan, and although Pakistan military operations disrupted the actions of these groups, it did not directly target them.

 

[Bratva]

Its not true buddy for how long is this going to continue there has to be an end Pakistan will say Kashmir is the core issue India will say terrorism is the core issue.

The only feasible solution is reach a stale mate. Pakistan in Kashmir and India in Baluchistan stale mate both can give up the proxy shit and then we can sit and talk.

Some times resilience also has limits how long can a country keep quiet or how long will we have incompetent government.



Do you really know or are you just ignorant about facts:

Trials in the United States
The LeT operative David Headley (born Daood Sayed Gilani) in his testimony before a Chicago federal court during co-accused Tahawwur Rana's trial revealed that Mumbai Chabad House was added to the list of targets for surveillance given by his Inter Services Intelligence handler Major Iqbal, though the Oberoi hotel, one of the sites attacked, was not originally on the list. On 10 June 2011, Tahawwur Rana was acquitted of plotting the 2008 Mumbai attacks, but was held guilty on two other charges. He was sentenced to 14 years in federal prison on 17 January 2013.

David Headley pleaded guilty to 12 counts related to the attacks, including conspiracy to commit murder in India and aiding and abetting in the murder of six Americans. On 23 January 2013, he was sentenced to 35 years in federal prison. His plea that he not be extradited to India, Pakistan or Denmark was accepted.

You cant deny the truth buddy this is not an Indian court. Its a US court and their investigation. I am eagerly waiting for your reply on this to know what you have to say ?

references:
Businessman Tahawwur Rana gets 14 years for role in terrorism plots - latimes
Rana acquitted of terror plot
How Oberoi hotel accidentally became 26/11 target - Rediff.com India News

Major Iqbal, Anybody can walkup to a isolated person and can make him believe he is a RAW/IB agent. That's why American courts didnt convicted ISI in the 26/11 attack.

Open up your mind to facts of how law works.

 

[Jacob Martin]

Convinced by what hindu rhetoric ??

If you guys would have shared any credible proof that can withstand court tests US wont waste a second sharing it with us as we handed over to US hundred of men against whom they gave us evidence why not saeed.

Nobody including india and US have any proof against him and thats the ugly truth right in your face.

You gave up guys to the US to stop the persistent drone attacks. Stop trying to fool yourself, coz you ain't fooling anyone else.

 

[Bratva]

Yes, because Pakistan has taken action against LeT, JuD etc. before. right?

From the US Department of State, Annual Report on Terror, 2014:

Pakistan continued to experience significant terrorist violence, including sectarian attacks. The Pakistani military undertook operations against groups that conducted attacks within Pakistan such as TTP, but did not take action against other groups such as Lashkar e-Tayyiba, which continued to operate, train, rally, propagandize, and fundraise in Pakistan. Afghan Taliban and HQN leadership continued to find safe haven in Pakistan, and although Pakistan military operations disrupted the actions of these groups, it did not directly target them.

As long as you bleed us through Baloch or TTP terrorists we will not take action against these groups. Simple as that

 

[Jacob Martin]

As long as you bleed us through Baloch or TTP terrorists we will not take action against these groups. Simple as that

So now you atleast stop pretending, good. That's all I wanted out of this discussion., To put an end to your lies. Thank you. See you later.

 

[New Resolve]

India is openly harbouring a terrorist, this should be taken to the security council.