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India & China to hold 15th round of boundary talks


India and China will focus on firming up a framework for resolving their decades-old boundary dispute during the 15th round of boundary talks between their special representatives later this year.
The talks are expected to be held either in October-end or early November.

State councillor Dai Bingguo, China's special representatives for boundary talks, will arrive here for talks with his Indian counterpart, National Security Adviser Shivshankar Menon.

The two sides have stepped up efforts to finalise a framework that will determine how to draw the line and demarcate the border.

India and China made an important strategic move by finalising guiding principles and political parameters to resolve the boundary dispute from the higher perspective of their relationship during the visit of Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao to New Delhi in 2005.

This was part of the three-stage process both sides have agreed to with the objective of finally demarcating the border. The second part - the finalisation of the framework - is, however, proving to be the most difficult part of negotiations.

The boundary talks have not made much progress despite 14 rounds between special representatives.

In a move designed to re-assert its territorial claims over India's northeastern state, China over a month ago issued stapled visas, which are not accepted by India, to a team of sportspersons from Arunachal Pradesh.

The issue of stapled visas is expected to figure in the talks as they are implicitly about territorial claims.

Besides the visa issue, the special representatives are also expected to discuss a gamut of strategic and regional issues, including the proposed India-US-Japan forum which Beijing sees as a move to contain its rise in Asia.

India, China to hold 15th round of boundary talks - Hindustan Times

US$100 billion trade target: India & China to hold talks in Sept


India and China will kick-start discussions next month covering a spectrum of sectors aimed at doubling bilateral trade to $100 billion (Rs 460,000 crore) by 2015 under a 'Strategic Economic Dialogue' - a move seen as an attempt to mend a relationship strained by disputes between two of the
world's greatest emerging economic powers.

Planning Commission deputy chairperson Montek Singh Ahluwalia will lead a delegation to Beijing in September-end to define the broad contours of a framework for enhanced economic cooperation in the energy, steel, telecommunication, banking, technology and pharmaceutical sectors, among others.

Zhang Ping, chairman of the National Development and Reform Commission - China's equivalent of the Planning Commission - will lead discussions on behalf of the world's fastest-growing economy during the two-day talks beginning September 26.

The two countries had agreed to establish the dialogue when Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao's visited India in December 2010.

New and renewable energy sources are expected to be one area where the two can cooperate to their mutual benefit. India's 12th five-year plan (2012-16) calls for generating more power through these sources, such as wind and solar power. Likewise, China's 12th five-year plan (2011-15) focuses on a greener approach to economic growth.

India has also sought market access for 17 fruits and vegetables.

An official source said discussions will focus on India's participation in trade fairs in China, trade facilitation, enhancing exchange and cooperation of pharmaceutical supervision, stronger relationships between Chinese enterprises and the Indian IT industry, and speedier completion of phyto-sanitary negotiations on farm products.

China, which fought a brief but bitter war with India in 1962, is India's largest trading partner. It is also our single largest source of imports, with a share of over 10% of India's total imports of $351 billion (Rs 1,614,600 crore) in 2010-11.

China has accused India of adopting anti-trade measures, allegations New Delhi has denied. In turn, India has blamed Beijing for imposing non-tariff barriers to prevent access to its market. India also believes China is blocking entry of fruits and vegetables on grounds not necessarily economic, an official said.

Then there have been instances of Chinese pharma firms selling medicines with 'made in India' labels in Africa. In June 2008, Nigerian authorities seized a consignment of fake anti-malarial drugs with the India tag but allegedly produced in China, said a commerce ministry official here. The tablets could have affected 642,000 customers.

India has also put quality restrictions on cellphones, dairy products and toys in a measure primarily aimed at blocking cheap import from China. India's Directorate-General of Foreign Trade said mobile handsets without the IMEI (international mobile equipment identity) number, which helps track the sale and use of the phones, cannot be imported. Industry sources estimate close to a million such phones enter India from China every month.

$100bn trade target: India, China to hold talks in Sept - Hindustan Times
 
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we want Aksai Chin they want Arunachal Pradesh the mistakes of Nehru will not be repeated Arunachal Pradesh will never leave India because China won't attack it again because they know they can not take it again
 
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we want Aksai Chin they want Arunachal Pradesh the mistakes of Nehru will not be repeated Arunachal Pradesh will never leave India because China won't attack it again because they know they can not take it again

Let's see if the "Congress party" is willing to beef up the defences against China, after the Indian Army warned them that Chinese forces vastly outnumber Indian forces on the LoC.

Army warning to PM: China can deploy half-a-million troops on LAC - Express India

The Indian Army told the PM that Chinese PLA has acquired the capability to deploy 34 troop divisions (one division has 23,000 troops) along the LAC in case of a high threat scenario by pulling out troops from Chengdu and Lanzhou military regions. When compared to the Indian strength of nine holding divisions along the northern borders, the PLA with a defence budget estimated at $150 billion holds overwhelming advantage.
 
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Last time around there had been a consensus between two sides to give up claims on populated areas. But talks were stuck on the issue of Tawang and we have actually gone backwards from there. Hopefully this time around the talks will be more constructive.
 
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Let's see if the "Congress party" is willing to beef up the defences against China, after the Indian Army warned them that Chinese forces vastly outnumber Indian forces on the LoC.

Army warning to PM: China can deploy half-a-million troops on LAC - Express India

you think we are not capable of spreading large troops across out NE? do you even know how many reserve troops IA has in Tezpur? just like you we are building infrastructure on border and adding strength to the NE a new strike corps, raising of the Arunachal scouts and much more else to come all of this was planned and approved during the tenure of army chief JJ Singh
 
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Last time around there had been a consensus between two sides to give up claims on populated areas.

The problem being that India's major claim on Chinese land is Aksai chin, which has no inhabitants.
 
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The problem being that India's major claim on Chinese land is Aksai chin, which has no inhabitants.

you think China would recognize Arunachal as apart of India in return for us recognizing Aksai apart of China just like we did in 2004 with Tibet and Sikkim?
 
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you think China would recognize Arunachal as apart of India in return for us recognizing Aksai apart of China just like we did in 2004 with Tibet and Sikkim?

You don't want to ask me, I'm quite anti-India. You should ask a more neutral Chinese member.
 
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The problem being that India's major claim on Chinese land is Aksai chin, which has no inhabitants.

That would be a conflict point. But to be honest, reports from the last time around suggest that Tawang was the bone of contention between two sides. I take it as an indication that an agreement was reached regarding Aksai Chin.
 
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Jaw jaw (even meaningless) is better than war war.

Both sides have what they really want. The claims on the territories are for bargaining purposes.
 
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we all know in 62 we didn't deploy our IAF. That may sound stupid but that is what happened. You guyz knew you couldn't hold an inch of land when winter sets in and left our lands. It was not out of charity but u wanted to avoid a strategic defeat.

I won't even argue with cn members here explaining the circumstances. Anyways, tawang being given is out of question cuz its a populated stretch of land and swapping is out of question.
 
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we all know in 62 we didn't deploy our IAF. That may sound stupid but that is what happened. You guyz knew you couldn't hold an inch of land when winter sets in and left our lands. It was not out of charity but u wanted to avoid a strategic defeat.

I won't even argue with cn members here explaining the circumstances. Anyways, tawang being given is out of question cuz its a populated stretch of land and swapping is out of question.

yes because of Nehru's mistakes not deploying the IAF, enacting the forward policy and not preparing for conflict in the NE but that has never happened again and never will because we learned from Nehru's mistakes 8 mountain divisions are kept in Tezpur for a reason
 
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if boundary problem be solved. it is good for both side.

but at least we must get Tawang back.
 
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if boundary problem be solved. it is good for both side.

but at least we must get Tawang back.

It is agreed that no settled areas will change hands.

The only realistic solution is LAC as the border with some minor trade offs in some sectors, no exchange of settled populations or areas.

Yes, it will be good. It is needlessly dragging.
 
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