India-China parallel rise in contemporary era is ‘unique happening in human history’: S Jaishankar

[Jackdaws]

India has technology and innovation? Why not name them?

Saying India has innovation and technologically superior without backing up with examples is empty talk. Others are calling you out, name them. We would like to see them with our own eyes.

Sure. Space technology. Mars Mission. Tata Motors.

 

[beijingwalker]

LOL, Of course India is scientificly, technologically and militarily way ahead of China, India has been a superpower since 2012.

 

[tower9]

The similarities are superficial. Too many differences. China can't match India in technology or innovation. It is one thing to build your economy on forced labor, internment camps and sweatshops - another to actually build an economy in a more sensible manner.

What world do you live in where India is anywhere in China’s league when it comes to innovation and tech?

 

[IsThisNameAvailable]

Do overtakings mean superpower? Your indian minds are obssessed with superpower, we just like to live a better life and make more money.

It is possible that as per Chinese IQ, you need to 'overtake' and 'surpass' others for a better life of one's own. As per Dharmic Indian spiritual traditions, all peace & contentment is internal (& not external). Your self-worth is dependent on external comparison. That is really pitiful for a country with a civilization much older than the western capitalist regimes. Nevermind.

 

[tower9]

It is possible that as per Chinese IQ, you need to 'overtake' and 'surpass' others for a better life of one's own. As per Dharmic Indian spiritual traditions, all peace & contentment is internal (& not external). Your self-worth is dependent on external comparison. That is really pitiful for a country with a civilization much older than the western capitalist regimes. Nevermind.

Then why is India so obsessed with comparing itself to China?

 

[beijingwalker]

It is possible that as per Chinese IQ, you need to 'overtake' and 'surpass' others for a better life of one's own. As per Dharmic Indian spiritual traditions, all peace & contentment is internal (& not external). Your self-worth is dependent on external comparison. That is really pitiful for a country with a civilization much older than the western capitalist regimes. Nevermind.

Indian spiritual contentment... LOL, that's why you made a movie that white people are servants serving Indian masters and your 2012 superpower?

 

[IsThisNameAvailable]

Then why is India so obsessed with comparing itself to China?

"Both are growing economies" is not obsession, its the truth.
On the other hand, daily threads about "we have surpassed / overtaken this one on that parameter" is obsession.
But worst thing is, playing coy and feigning innocence that " we never wanted to be a superpower".

 

[tower9]

"Both are growing economies" is not obsession, its the truth.
On the other hand, daily threads about "we have surpassed / overtaken this one on that parameter" is obsession.
But worst thing is, playing coy and feigning innocence that " we never wanted to be a superpower".

India’s been obsessed with China for a long time. Even the western media picked up on this a long time ago

 

[beijingwalker]

"Both are growing economies" is not obsession, its the truth.
On the other hand, daily threads about "we have surpassed / overtaken this one on that parameter" is obsession.
But worst thing is, playing coy and feigning innocence that " we never wanted to be a superpower".

Because overtakings happen daily, if India overtook some country, I expect to see posts too in PDF, but they rarely happen or completely the other way around.

 

[Jackdaws]

What world do you live in where India is anywhere in China’s league when it comes to innovation and tech?

The democratic, civilized one.

 

[tower9]

The democratic, civilized one.

Democratic, sure. But definitely one of the most barbaric, unfair and violent societies on earth.

 

[beijingwalker]

The democratic, civilized one.

With 30% illiteracy rate, India is nowhere close to being civilised.

 

[Jackdaws]

With 30% illiteracy rate, India is nowhere close to being civilised.

Civilization doesn't just stem from literacy in the democratic world.

 

[jamahir]

We have a reasonably successful space program

Given the huge number of engineers and scientists of various kinds who pass out of Indian colleges every year, given the big industrial base, India should have had a base on Mars by now.

Though I don't think China is presently a Communist country at least it sent its first human to space about 17 years ago. The private, SpaceX, with lot less human and other resources when compared to India's ISRO, sent four humans to space ( to the ISS ) last year. SpaceX is planning to send humans to Mars ( maybe do a flyby of Mars orbit ) in 2024 or 2026. ISRO is yet to send Indians to space, plans it to do it in 2022.

However, there are three new private space launch companies - Bellatrix Aerospace, Agnikul Aerospace and Skyroot Aerospace - who are developing launch vehicles and engines that can take small sized satellite to LEO. Maybe these companies can develop human transport and descent to Mars by the mid 2030s.

Yes it is the largest democracy, a very vibrant and spicy one where power really does lie with the people. It's a beautiful thing but has it's drawbacks too.

Technically, India is not a true democracy. It is a "Representative Democracy" where the citizens don't get to decide things in the country. Things big or small. Things at neighborhood level or country level. It is career politicians and the party system that decides. A true democracy would be a "Direct Democracy" system that is guided by progressive political thought. Such a system existed in Libya until 2011 and exists in Venezuela now. You can read that system in theory on this page and compare it to India's complicated system. Even Elon Musk speaks for Direct Democracy on near-future Mars settlements.

 

[beijingwalker]

Civilization doesn't just stem from literacy in the democratic world.

Been there , done that. A disaster.