India, China must have strategic partnership: expert

[hembo]

Split South Tibet/Arunachal Pradesh roughly in half. China gets Tawang and the areas occupied by Tibetans (i.e. Chinese people or Mongoloids). India gets the other half that is not occupied by Mongoloids.

That's it folks. I've solved the Sino-Indian border problem in 5 minutes. Of course, it'll never happen. Indian politicians won't budge an inch.

First of all, there are mongoloid people everywhere in north-east India and they are not limited to tawang only.. All of Arunachal, Mizoram, Nagaland, Meghalaya, Manipur, Sikkim & 30% of Assam's population is of mongoloid origin since time immemorial.

Secondly, you're right that it will never happen because it highly impractical & divisive..

As far as your Tibetan populace in these areas goes, you are wrong again. The 97% people in Tawang district, about 80% in West Kameng District are of Monpa origin. Most Monpas live in the Indian state of Arunachal Pradesh, with a population of 50,000, centered in the districts of Tawang and West Kameng. Around 25,000 Monpas can be found in the district of Cuona in the Tibet Autonomous Region, where they are known as Menba. Of the 50,000 Monpas who live in Arunachal Pradesh, about 30,000 of them live in Tawang district, where they constitute about 97% of the district's population, and almost all of the remainder can be found in the West Kameng district, where they form about 77% of the district's population. A small number of them may be found in bordering areas of East Kameng and Bhutan (2,500).

There are few tibetan refugees in west Kameng, but then they are now scattered over every where in India now.

These monpas identifies themselves as Indians & they have completely integrated into Indian way of life. Apart from religion & their written script, they have nothing common with the average Tibetans. Therefore, your five minute solution will not hold any water.

As for your other suggestion of going to WAR in your subsequent posts with immature display of war hardware (by you & others), I have nothing to say but to be thankful that the people at the helm of things aren't some 20 year war mongering keyboard warriors..

 

[hembo]

^^^^^^^^ this type + Nehru type of thinking is root cause of problem.

We need to deal with the china, there can not be two tigers in a mountain (a chinese proverb) ek mayan main do talwaren nahi reh sakti (Indian one)

We have to learn to live with it defending each of our military, strategic, economic, political interests.

- Aksai chin is not barren land , that's our Madrewatan (motherland). Only a fool can deny its importance ITS THE CHINA'S ONLY LAND LINK WITH PAKISTAN.

Even though you are banned as of now, I would like to reply to your post here.

First of all, your geography needs a little brush up. Aksai Chin is NOT AT ALL the land link of China & Pakistan. Does Gilgit-Baltistan & Karakurom pass rings any bell, or should I post a pic to either enhance or refresh your knowledge in this regards. OK, let me post a pic here..

Secondly, who has asked us (or any other nation) not to give importance defence of its interests. Aren't we buying all these fancy gadgets & developed nuclear power for that purpose. We WILL defend every inch of, as you say it, "our military, strategic, economic, political interests". But guess what, Aksai Chin has been in Chinese possession & Arunachal is in India's possession since last 60 years. We have not been able to do squat about Aksai Chin except keeping alive a dormant claim over it. It had never been our "our military, strategic, economic, political interests" except a way to get back at China for their claim over Arunachal. Thumping chest & being practical is two different things..

I would also like to accuse you & the likes of you (same way you accuse me) that it is for thinking like yours that has been the root cause of the problem. Even after 60 years, we are bickering & at loggerhead with our neighbors & guess who is benefiting from it. Billions of Dollars are being given to few first world countries to buy these fancy war gadgets, which should have been dedicated towards development. And by development, I don't mean glittering buildings & sparkling roads in the Cities while majority of our population struggle to have the very basic amenities. By development I mean development of the human resource, their mind, their ability, INNOVATIVENESS, R&D. Do you know why British could conquer us with handful of soldiers? Because, by then we had ceased to develop, to INNOVATE, to do R&D. We were content with bickering & fighting among ourselves, rather then smelling the 18th century. Our only form of education (to small fraction of the populace) were some religious scripts, which were great when it was first introduced, but it was not possible to revise the syllabus to include contemporary developments & new knowledge.

We are in a way, doing the same thing now. We have set up fancy colleges (millions of them), but have failed to promote INNOVATION. We are giving subsidized foodgrains to the poor, but failed to give them proper education for who knows how many Abdul Kalams we have missed to recognize & promote from these so called poor section of our society. If we start doing what we should do, all these gadgets will be available to us at a fraction of the cost at the same time we would be self sufficient.

In order to step into the real path of development, we have to learn to think from out of the box, perhaps learn to keep TWO SWORD in the same SEATH.

Sorry folks for my blabberings..

 

[huzihaidao12]

I think you have mis-understood him. What he had said is that, it was a bad decision by Nehru to host that Tibetan govt in exile. But, as we are a democracy, requiring popular votes to form govt, our govts after govt are afraid to shut their shop.

Its like a bad tablet, which is difficult to throw away (keep hosting the Tibetan govt) or to swallow (keep hosting it)..

This cannot be achieved overnight unlike CPC. Here, the successive govts has to build up public consensus over time in order to get it done. Then also, their will be some fraction who will viciously oppose it & protests & strikes will follow..

Anyway, it (ceasing to host the govt in exile) needs to be done if we have to move forward in the path of development & prosperity...

Other-wise there will always be some trigger happy & short sighted pseudo-patriots on both sides.. One wrong move & we both can say good bye to peace & development for next 100 years..

1, If as you said, this is not a misunderstanding, you underestimated the significance of Tibet exile Government , I does not said more, I personal understanding India Government of position, that needs time, this I agreed. but that is your interior, it cannot confusion and diplomatic to any reasons, Chinese Government diplomatic policy just depends on your diplomatic policy. as I said, that needs India strategy judgment.


2, you do not have sufficient understanding of China. regardless of the protests and strikes, it is not a rare thing, will usually get a compromise from both sides. updating your information, please, thank you.

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Secondly, who has asked us (or any other nation) not to give importance defence of its interests. Aren't we buying all these fancy gadgets & developed nuclear power for that purpose. We WILL defend every inch of, as you say it, "our military, strategic, economic, political interests". But guess what, Aksai Chin has been in Chinese possession & Arunachal is in India's possession since last 60 years. We have not been able to do squat about Aksai Chin except keeping alive a dormant claim over it. It had never been our "our military, strategic, economic, political interests" except a way to get back at China for their claim over Arunachal. Thumping chest & being practical is two different things..

I would also like to accuse you & the likes of you (same way you accuse me) that it is for thinking like yours that has been the root cause of the problem. Even after 60 years, we are bickering & at loggerhead with our neighbors & guess who is benefiting from it. Billions of Dollars are being given to few first world countries to buy these fancy war gadgets, which should have been dedicated towards development. And by development, I don't mean glittering buildings & sparkling roads in the Cities while majority of our population struggle to have the very basic amenities. By development I mean development of the human resource, their mind, their ability, INNOVATIVENESS, R&D. Do you know why British could conquer us with handful of soldiers? Because, by then we had ceased to develop, to INNOVATE, to do R&D. We were content with bickering & fighting among ourselves, rather then smelling the 18th century. Our only form of education (to small fraction of the populace) were some religious scripts, which were great when it was first introduced, but it was not possible to revise the syllabus to include contemporary developments & new knowledge.

We are in a way, doing the same thing now. We have set up fancy colleges (millions of them), but have failed to promote INNOVATION. We are giving subsidized foodgrains to the poor, but failed to give them proper education for who knows how many Abdul Kalams we have missed to recognize & promote from these so called poor section of our society. If we start doing what we should do, all these gadgets will be available to us at a fraction of the cost at the same time we would be self sufficient.

In order to step into the real path of development, we have to learn to think from out of the box, perhaps learn to keep TWO SWORD in the same SEATH.

Sorry folks for my blabberings..

It is also the same for China, instead of consuming huge resources to fight India, I would prefer it spent at home on welfare.

 

[Kazhugu]

India's puny atomic weaponry comprises a total of 0.8 to 1 megaton. Fire one atomic warhead in China's direction and your civilization is over. China has at least 294 megatons of thermonuclear firepower.

lmao..then perhaps the chinese are lacking in balls to come and take whats theirs even thoough our atomic arsenal is only puny...grow some "made-in-china" balls i say....