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India, China growth race 'silly', says Nobel winner

thr growth race may be silly, but as a benchmark, who else can India compare itself too?

Only China springs to mind.


I must agree partially with you but don't downplay the significance and trade policies of other global financial players such as Malaysia. We also need to do comparative studies with those emerging financial giants and try to establish what they are doing right and what we are doing wrong. The economic growth of India will face handicapps if no long term strategy is put into place. i would hate to see Delhi being a "bubble economy". Unfortunately our current PM seems to focus more on foreign issues than the future financial plans which he was so remarkably implementing when he was finance minister. Whilst we promoted him by removing him as finance minister and promoting him to PM, we demoted the nation in doing so
 
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Make no mistake. I am not putting India down. When I refer to China as a guru, I must restrict it to their manner of doing business, expanding their infrastructure and exit ports (When I was in Shangai I was told that it takes no longer than 12 hours to turn a ship around. In Bombay I would look at anything between 3-4 days for the same ship!), their removal of red tape since the late 70's; their impatience for corruption. Offcourse Beijing needs much more reforms to edge itself to an acceptable global player and they could take notes from India in this respect. One simple example is comparing the Shangai and Shenzen stock exchanges with the Bombay stock exchange. We have much more transparency with the Stock Exchange Commission having investigative and punitative powers whilst in China one would have to go through the lengthy courts to investigate a company sinve their SEC doesn't have that much authority. A larger younger educated population in India compared to China is also an advantage. My point is that our advantages are long term and not an immediate bonus. We only started economic reform in the 1990s whilst Beijing blue-printed it in 1978 and started in 1979. Our disadvantages are not crippling. But we need to take a book out of Beijing when it comes to infrastructure, red tape removal, no-no to corruption and beurocracy. In that regards they need to be our gurus. Their advantages are glaring and their strides are noteworthy but for us to start competing with them at this early stage of our trip is shortsighted. Hence my suggestion that we use them as a benchmark (offcourse with limitations :D) and not a competitor and my agreement with Mr Sen's sentiments

Younger, maybe. But more educated population?

Can you give me some quantitative evidence on exactly how much "more educated" India's youth is?

Lets talk literacy rates, secondary/tertiary enrollment, engineers graduated and PhDs graduated?

In terms of quality, the best judgment is PISA test results and IQ tests for non-college graduates, average wages for college graduates, and research output for masters/PhDs. In all 3 aspects, which one has India above China?

Corruption in China only slightly less bad than corruption in India. The red tape here is more than you think. The only obvious advantage, in your words, would then be the infrastructure.

But I think there's more.

I think the real advantage of China over India is that we invested in our youth, by giving them college educations, while India still has the education system of China's past: only educate the elite at taxpayer expense.

IIT is a typical example of the failure of the Indian educational system. IITians individually, of course, are amazingly talented individuals. But IITs disproportionately receive tax money, and they have an extremely low acceptance rate; lower than both Harvard and Beijing U. Thus, the end result is, a tiny batch of smart engineers is graduated every year, they see that India is not ready for their talents, and they leave for the West.
 
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Yes, India's obsession with China is silly. Comparing India to China is like comparing Pakistan to the US.

China economy is 3.5 times more than India.
US Economy is 2.5 times more than China.
Indian economy is 10 times more than Pakistan.

If China can compare with U.S., India can also compare with China. But Pakistan can never ever compare with India if you see the difference. But I see many Pakistani comparing with India on daily basis. :woot:
 
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Yes, those articles are written by obsessive Indians!

There is no comparison between India & China in ANYTHING.

Just realised there is one they both have large populations

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China economy is 3.5 times more than India.
US Economy is 2.5 times more than China.
Indian economy is 10 times more than Pakistan.

If China can compare with U.S., India can also compare with China. But Pakistan can never ever compare with India if you see the difference. :azn:

We dont normally its you guys who compare incredible india to pakistan
 
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China economy is 3.5 times more than India.
US Economy is 2.5 times more than China.
Indian economy is 10 times more than Pakistan.

If China can compare with U.S., India can also compare with China. But Pakistan can never ever compare with India if you see the difference. :azn:

Population differences?

India has about 8 times the population of Pakistan. India also has similar GDP per capita as Pakistan. All socioeconomic indicators show India & Pakistan are similar, & that India cannot be mentioned in the same breath as China.
 
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Yes, India's obsession with China is silly. Comparing India to China is like comparing Pakistan to the US.

Lol... Good one...:lol:

@Topic...

I don't think there is anything silly about it,everyone try to compare with one who is doing better then you and if that person is your neighbour then it even drives you more to do the same.....Btw..In India most of people admire china;s economic growth and want our country "India" to do the same(economic front)

Yeah we are well 20 years behind from china and we know it...but we will be among top 4 countries in the world in our future. Thats what we know and want achieve.
 
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We dont normally its you guys who compare incredible india to pakistan

Why we will ever compare with Pakistan when difference is 10 times and even if India continues to grow at moderate average 8% and Pakistan at 4% from current 2% growth also, Then also difference will be 20 times in next 15 years ? We never compare as we don't need to do that.

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Population differences?

India has about 8 times the population of Pakistan. India also has similar GDP per capita as Pakistan. All socioeconomic indicators show India & Pakistan are similar, & that India cannot be mentioned in the same breath as China.

So that means Japan is 12 times ahead than China. Israel is 70 times ahead than China. First you decide the criteria, Then ask question. :coffee:
 
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We dont normally its you guys who compare incredible india to pakistan

Really?? ever heard about RiaZHaq ?? a pakistani blogger?? lol

That what we call obsession! Give me name of a single Indian blogger who compares India with pakistan.
 
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Yes, those articles are written by obsessive Indians!

There is no comparison between India & China in ANYTHING.

look at these articles

India vs. China: Whose Economy Is Better?
By Michael Schuman / Hong Kong


Read more: India vs. China: Which Economy Is Better After Recession? - TIME


Roubini: India Will Beat China Hands Down
Vincent Fernando, CFA


Read more: Roubini: India Will Beat China Hands Down


China and India: A Comparison in Sourcing Potential
By Charles
on January 26, 2010 2:52 PM

China, India has suspended economic. For the next two decades India will hardly be able to catch up. But then could beat his time. Because China is aging and has little talent.

Von Erich Weede
 
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Why we will ever compare with Pakistan when difference is 10 times and even if India continues to grow at moderate average 8% and Pakistan at 4% from current 2% growth, Then difference will be 20 times in next 12 years ? We never compare as we don't need to do that.

India also has about 8 times the population of Pakistan that you seem to forget. For the past 50 years in both countries existence, Pakistan grew at a faster rate than India, had higher GDP per capita levels than India, comparable to South Korea at some periods of its history as well. For the first time in history, when Pakistan is in the forefront of the international WOT, India gets the chance to progress, & Indians want to compare themselves to China :lol:

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Population differences?

India has about 8 times the population of Pakistan. India also has similar GDP per capita as Pakistan. All socioeconomic indicators show India & Pakistan are similar, & that India cannot be mentioned in the same breath as China.

There is no logic in whateva you sayin...! Get real!

No one here even want to compare itself with pakistan! do compare yourself with bangladesh and srilanka please..

And yeah china is even more populated with India and economic diff btw India and china is 3.5 times...which is not that much !

Pls dont Bring pakistan into this!
 
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look at these articles

India vs. China: Whose Economy Is Better?
By Michael Schuman / Hong Kong


Read more: India vs. China: Which Economy Is Better After Recession? - TIME


Roubini: India Will Beat China Hands Down
Vincent Fernando, CFA


Read more: Roubini: India Will Beat China Hands Down


China and India: A Comparison in Sourcing Potential
By Charles
on January 26, 2010 2:52 PM

China, India has suspended economic. For the next two decades India will hardly be able to catch up. But then could beat his time. Because China is aging and has little talent.

Von Erich Weede

Of course it is the US trying to prop up India, as they're threatened by China, but not India.
 
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