Tamil is a single ethnicity where Sinhala means a mix of a lot. We Sinhalese have Tamil, Bengali, Bihari, Gujarati, Malayali etc. and of course the local DNA mix. So how could you say Sinhalese are solely immigrants? What happens to the local population who contributed to Sinhala DNA?
Tamil is not a single entity in SL. The Lankan tamils as a whole do NOT have south indian roots. They are like sinhalese people have both south indian and bengali roots. The reason is the lankan tamils and the sinhalese belong to the same block. It was the geographical proximity and repeated invasions that made them tamil while let the other lankans evolve in a different manner. Otherwise the same people.
The local population too should have migrated and there is no chance that they sprang out from soil here.
As u are fond of DNA analysis,
Kshatriya found the Sri Lankan Tamils to have a greater contribution from the Sinhalese of Sri Lanka (55.20% +/- 9.47) while the Sinhalese had the greatest contribution from South Indian Tamils (69.86% +/- 0.61), followed by Bengalis from the Northeast India (25.41% +/- 0.51). With both the Sri Lankan Tamils and Sinhalese in the island sharing a common gene pool of 55%. They are farthest from the indigenous Veddahs
Actually the burghers are the Dutch people who stayed in Sri Lanka after British took over the island and of course they are now intermingled with the locals and became a unique lot. Actually there are some burgher people who has completely became Sinhala and only there skin color and name gives them away.
The burghers are not only of Dutch origin. There are portugese, british, and even german origin ones. So the burghers too are a race created in SL ne. just like sinhalese. After all why do we really need to talk abt each other’s origins, the need is making SL for all. Identify the multi-cultural sri lanka.
No Sri Lankan means a word to represent the whole community of Sri Lanka comprising of Sinhala, Tamil, Moors, Burghers etc. These communities are not intermingled with each other.
And where did I say otherwise?
The matter is the attempt by sinhala nationalists to hijack sri lankan identity and trying to make sri lanka = sinhala. Just look at what ur saying here, u first said sri lanka’s identity is sinhala buddhist and now say “Sri Lankan means a word to represent the whole community of Sri Lanka comprising of Sinhala, Tamil, Moors, Burghers etc.” Do u see how u’re eating ur own words?
What I meant in my comment which was in reply to ur point over americans was that American is NOT parallel to Sinhala. American is a nationality same like Sri Lankan. Sinhala is an ethnicity. Do u understand how ur own argument help prove my point?
And where have I said otherwise? I said that is the same case for SL tamils.
I think you cannot reason a thing even a little bit. What I say was Jaffna and Batticollo Tamils are recent immigrants.
Of course our reasoning abilities are for everyone to see.
Some may be recent immigrants, but not all. Just like the sinhalese.
So u want me to prove that Jaffna is a tamil city? Can u prove colombo is a sinhala city? Go to jaffna and see.
If you do not know accept you do not know and at least read and reason what I have given you to read other than saying things even you have little understanding like the Tamil dancing.
Why should I accept what u say? The tamils in SL and India have differences and Sl tamils have unique cultural elements. There are dance types that are unique to tamils in SL. I read abt these things in a news paper and I never thought I’d have to teach some1 how tamils lived in SL after 12AD (even after Mahavamsa says so) in an internet forum. As I told u there are names used by only SL tamils, for example Kadirgamar (u conveniently missed this point.).
And if u want to establish the right to this country by the uniqueness of a certain culture and a race, what abt south indian cultural elements in Sinhala culture? Sinhala language was greatly influenced by Tamil. Kandyan dance even Kandyan dress codes were influenced by South indian culture. What abt Pattini cult? So according to ur theory sinhala is also alien ne….
Ethnicity is not the national identity. It seems that there is nothing more to debate with you on this cuz you know nothing and you can't even grasp a single sentence.
Of course national identity is not the ethnicity and where have I said otherwise? It is a point which you missed when you were equating sinhala ethnicity to American nationality and when u try to say sri lankan nationality should represent sinhala ethnicity.
Play the ball not the man men. It seems u are unable counter argue my point. I asked u what sinhala buddhists are? The reason I asked u this is there is no such ethnicity in SL. Am I wrong here? Where has sri lanka defined sinhala buddhists as a different ethnic group? The ethnic group is the sinhala. The people inside it can have any religion.
Actually it is you who have no understanding what an ethnicity is and what a nationality is.
Once I have proven my point you disappeared just like you did in that thread about the 13th amendment.
I l be coming back on 13th, unlike u sinhala nationalists, I like to use my mother tounge in such topics. So it takes time. I didn’t disappear and the last time I remember u were talking abt world war when I asked u the simple question, what is the religious identity of Japan?
U won’t have to spend ur time on ur india claim I guess any indian here can answer that, (and not ur crazy hindutva friend sanki. )
You think the immigrant Tamils came here legally?
Do u think the sinhala people came here legally? Don’t u see it is stupid and wrong to use immigration laws that exist today to decide what happened centuries and even millenias before.
Then little boy why can't you agree on this in Sri Lanka. Why can't you accept the Sri Lanka has the same right to ask it's citizen to adopt the Sri Lankan way i.e. The Sinhala Buddhist way?
Because my darling baby brother sri lankan way is NOT the sinhala buddhist way…..
And these people migrate to Australia after modern australia was established. Also by saying, “Anyone who immigrate recently have to and will adopt Australian ways.”. I didn’t say the Australian authorities force the immigrants to adopt (by way of laws) Australian ways. That is poor understanding of my comment from ur side. Rather stupid from a guy who were lecturing abt grasping the meaning of a sentence.
When immigrants from even asian countries go n settle in Australia they will adopt Aus way of life in a NATURAL method. The 1st generation wont be much into Aus ways but gradually 2nd and 3rd generations will be adopting australian way in a natural way. That is what I meant. Aus doesn’t force their way of life, it naturally happens. If it is forced upon, u will see a counter action, like in SL.
It doesn't matter Tamils being immigrants as long as they support there mother country and accept it as a whole. Problems arise when they try to deviate.
It matters when what u say is wrong. SL tamils in SL are NOT immigrants. They have shared this country for centuries with sinhalese. Also sinhalese also comprise lot of immigrants. For example both Bandaranaike and Jayawardana are recent immigrants from South India. This is a fact. So when both the ethnicities have a lot of immigrants, it is wrong to say one RACE is immigrant.
And SL tamils did support SL and some continue to do so. They deviated because a proper power sharing system was not designed
Well the Tamils who lived with Sinhalese for millennium knew how to co-exist and they lived no where near to Jaffna. Jaffna Tamils (later some were taken to Batticollo in the Eastern province) were brought from TN by Dutch and then British to tobacco farming preliminary and then to other work. They settled here and lived under the colonial rule and knew nothing about the co-existence. This is the problem now. Those immigrants now think that they own Jaffna, Vanni and the Batticollo so they demand a Eelam from Sinhalese.
U said before that Tamils came to SL in 18th century ne,…….
Either India should have stayed away from SL or should have driven the SL tamil issue to a logical conclusion - both had refugee situations and SL was not exactly a friendly nation as well. It did neither except hijack the SL tamil movement and turn it into a violent one by supporting militants instead of the SL civil movement organizations.
So what can SL do for India’s mistake? Actually it was SL who had to pay heavily for india’s mistake. India should have stayed away from SL from the beginning but due to geo politics they didn’t and there was continuous pressure from TN like today to meddle in.
But isn't the naval intelligence a valuable contribution India made? Do you think that SL would have won the war with all the hardware Pakistan and China provided? Apart from what is stated here about the 10,000 tons of weapons destroyed which would have been devastating at the hands of LTTE where it would have become a shooting and stalemate between LTTE and SL with lots of destructions, I was reading a news during the SL war when it was stated that LTTE was running short of mortars and unable to stop SL army.
So mate - give credit where it is due like what your ex-naval admiral had done.
Apart from that, read the article and India had given equipments like 5 Mi-17 helicopters and radars.
What has weapons provided by Pak and china got to do with india’s help
are u trying bask in reflected glory?
I didn’t said naval intelligence was not valuable, I said ur statement that ‘Indian Navy participated in SL war for SL’ was wrong. Because it gives the impression that Indian navy fought for SL in SL seas attempting to belittle SL navy. That was what I am against.
SL has already accepted the help india offered by intell sharing. The very links u pasted will witness to that. Do u want all the Sri Lankans to repeatedly thank india in every forum whatever the topic is discussed. Do u feel like wanting ur backs to be patted everytime?
And Pak and china didn’t merely provide us weapons, we BOUGHT them just like indian forces buy weapons from US, Israel.