India can launch a short war in case of a Pak misadventure

[Zob]

ok something i fail to understand is why don't the indians realize that two NUCLEAR ARMED COUNTIRES can never ever dream of attacking the other with SURGICAL STRIKES!!! neither of the countries is LEBANON!!!! so india is Hallucinating when it talks about strikes against pakistan....


because wewill retaliate and no one knows with what...could be nukes even though i doubt it....cuz knowing PAKISTAN mentality we will never use the nukes unlike what the world thinks!!


as for the article by HAMID MIR....it is an ARTICLE and not a fact and article is just an opinon of some writer!!!

as for MANMOHAN being an economist and not attacking pakistan....well my friend...even if you get ADVANI or THACKREY as your PM and both conutires poses nukes no one will dare attack the other!!!

and the only way you can make the government of PAKISTAN get serious in helping you is when YOU SOLVE THE KASHMIR ISSUE!!!

 

[Omar1984]

considering that pak started the wars earlier, does that not give india a reason to start one?

Lets go back in history:

1948: 1st Indo-Pak war over the disputed region of Kashmir.
1/3 of Kashmir becomes part of Pakistan. 2/3 of Kashmir is still occupied by India.

1965: 2nd Indo-Pak war over the DISPUTED REGION OF KASHMIR. Fight over the LINE OF CONTROL.
India then crosses INTERNATIONAL BORDERS invades Lahore and Pakistanis successfully defends Lahore and rest of Pakistan from Indian aggression.

1971: 3rd Indo-Pak war. India crosses the INTERNATIONAL BORDERS again in East Pakistan and creates Bangladesh.

And now India is talking about crossing INTERNATIONAL BORDERS again and the world is wondering why Pakistan needs nukes?

PLA did nothing during Kargil, 71, 65

Pakistan was not a nuclear nation in 1965 or 1971.
Kargil (part of a disputed region) was different, Line of control is very different from International borders. Pakistan had Kargil in their hands but due to pressure from the Indian loving President of US Bill Clinton, Nawaz Sharif (then prime minister of Pakistan) ordered Pakistani troops to leave Kargil.


If India crosses INTERNATIONAL BORDERS once again, Pakistan should use all the weapons against India, including nuclear if necessary.

 

[Rajkumar]

Lets go back in history:

1948: 1st Indo-Pak war over the disputed region of Kashmir.
1/3 of Kashmir becomes part of Pakistan. 2/3 of Kashmir is still occupied by India.

1965: 2nd Indo-Pak war over the DISPUTED REGION OF KASHMIR. Fight over the LINE OF CONTROL.
India then crosses INTERNATIONAL BORDERS invades Lahore and Pakistanis successfully defends Lahore and rest of Pakistan from Indian aggression.

1971: 3rd Indo-Pak war. India crosses the INTERNATIONAL BORDERS again in East Pakistan and creates Bangladesh.

And now India is talking about crossing INTERNATIONAL BORDERS again and the world is wondering why Pakistan needs nukes?





Pakistan was not a nuclear nation in 1965 or 1971.
Kargil (part of a disputed region) was different, Line of control is very different from International borders. Pakistan had Kargil in their hands but due to pressure from the Indian loving President of US Bill Clinton, Nawaz Sharif (then prime minister of Pakistan) ordered Pakistani troops to leave Kargil.


If India crosses INTERNATIONAL BORDERS once again, Pakistan should use all the weapons against India, including nuclear if necessary.

bring it on

 

[Cockpuncher]

Lets go back in history:

1948: 1st Indo-Pak war over the disputed region of Kashmir.
1/3 of Kashmir becomes part of Pakistan. 2/3 of Kashmir is still occupied by India.

1965: 2nd Indo-Pak war over the DISPUTED REGION OF KASHMIR. Fight over the LINE OF CONTROL.
India then crosses INTERNATIONAL BORDERS invades Lahore and Pakistanis successfully defends Lahore and rest of Pakistan from Indian aggression.

1971: 3rd Indo-Pak war. India crosses the INTERNATIONAL BORDERS again in East Pakistan and creates Bangladesh.

And now India is talking about crossing INTERNATIONAL BORDERS again and the world is wondering why Pakistan needs nukes?





Pakistan was not a nuclear nation in 1965 or 1971.
Kargil (part of a disputed region) was different, Line of control is very different from International borders. Pakistan had Kargil in their hands but due to pressure from the Indian loving President of US Bill Clinton, Nawaz Sharif (then prime minister of Pakistan) ordered Pakistani troops to leave Kargil.


If India crosses INTERNATIONAL BORDERS once again, Pakistan should use all the weapons against India, including nuclear if necessary.

1. If india crosses LOC and attacks, is that not aggression? irrespective of international border or not? same logic applies for what pakistan did in 65. also then, india captured 750 sq miles of pakistani territory. get ur facts right.

2.1971 war started by pakistan when west P. PAF attacked IAF bases. check 4 urself.

Pakistan had Kargil in their hands but due to pressure from the Indian loving President of US Bill Clinton, Nawaz Sharif (then prime minister of Pakistan) ordered Pakistani troops to leave Kargil.

I am familiar with this 'superior pakistan army' propaganda but lets stick to facts shall we? IA drove PA from kargil. period (check any sources)

so why does pakistan need nukes?

 

[Mac2]

What the hell is going on here.Someone is saying we will use nukes and others are saying bring it on? Do someone have any idea of destruction by nuclear weapons and mr. Omar1984 are thinking that operating with nuclear bombs is like hitting a home run to a amature.
Have you ever thought after destroying homes of people of other side of your border with nuclear bombs you are also going to get the same. If you do not care for others please do care for yourself. I really wonder if your leaders start to think like you what will happen.

 

[Omar1984]

1. If india crosses LOC and attacks, is that not aggression? irrespective of international border or not? same logic applies for what pakistan did in 65. also then, india captured 750 sq miles of pakistani territory. get ur facts right.

Line of Control is very different from Internation borders. Kashmir is recognized as a disputed region, the LOC is not International borders. The border near Lahore is international borders. This is a major difference, violating International borders is not the same as violating Line of Control.

If you want to cross the Line of Control, then come....our Kashmiris from Azad Kashmir could take care of you Indians on their own and they will teach Indians a lesson and take revenge for all the atrocities done against their fellow Kashmiris in Indian Occupied Kashmir by Indian army.

2.1971 war started by pakistan when west P. PAF attacked IAF bases. check 4 urself..

So thats your reason why India crossed INTERNATIONAL BORDERS again into East Pakistan and created Bangladesh?

I am familiar with this 'superior pakistan army' propaganda but lets stick to facts shall we? IA drove PA from kargil. period (check any sources)

From wikipedia:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kargil_war
As Pakistan found itself struggling, the army had covertly planned a nuclear strike on India, the news of which alarmed U.S. President Bill Clinton, resulting in a stern warning to Nawaz Sharif.[49] Following the Washington accord on July 4, where Sharif agreed to withdraw Pakistani troops, most of the fighting came to a gradual halt.

so why does pakistan need nukes?

So you damn Indians stay in your side of the International border, where you belong.

 

[Omar1984]

What the hell is going on here.Someone is saying we will use nukes and others are saying bring it on? Do someone have any idea of destruction by nuclear weapons and mr. Omar1984 are thinking that operating with nuclear bombs is like hitting a home run to a amature.
Have you ever thought after destroying homes of people of other side of your border with nuclear bombs you are also going to get the same. If you do not care for others please do care for yourself. I really wonder if your leaders start to think like you what will happen.

If India violates International borders for the 3rd time, then Pakistan should use all their weapons to protect Pakistan.

The only reason why Pakistan has nuclear weapons is because we have a neighbor like India next door who hates the existance of Pakistan.

 

[Mac2]

I understand your mistrust towards india and i also know that india has been a major deterrence towards growth of your economy but nuclear strikes are last option man. If india attacks you you should try to counter them by force.
I have heard some of your folks saying that we have nukes only to cause nuclear deterrence not attacks.

 

[Hellfire]

Zob

ok something i fail to understand is why don't the indians realize that two NUCLEAR ARMED COUNTIRES can never ever dream of attacking the other with SURGICAL STRIKES!!!

They can. Infact, the presence of nukes ensures that the conflict will not escalate. (Kargil is a case example)


so india is Hallucinating when it talks about strikes against pakistan....

militarily india has the capability. politically its not there. the polity is unwilling to take the step.

because wewill retaliate and no one knows with what...could be nukes even though i doubt it....cuz knowing PAKISTAN mentality we will never use the nukes unlike what the world thinks!!

in case of Indian Strike, IMO Pakistan will NOT retaliate as long as locations are just a couple and specifically terror/jihadi camps in pak controlled kashmir. there was a generalised call for blood post-Atlantique incident, but nothing happened of that too.

 

[Omar1984]

in case of Indian Strike, IMO Pakistan will NOT retaliate as long as locations are just a couple and specifically terror/jihadi camps in pak controlled kashmir. there was a generalised call for blood post-Atlantique incident, but nothing happened of that too.

Yea we'll see. Just try. Pakistan army will never allow Indians to strike any part of Pakistan, including Azad Kashmir.

Indians can dream on!

 

[Hellfire]

Lets go back in history:

1948: 1st Indo-Pak war over the disputed region of Kashmir.
1/3 of Kashmir becomes part of Pakistan. 2/3 of Kashmir is still occupied by India.

1965: 2nd Indo-Pak war over the DISPUTED REGION OF KASHMIR. Fight over the LINE OF CONTROL.
India then crosses INTERNATIONAL BORDERS invades Lahore and Pakistanis successfully defends Lahore and rest of Pakistan from Indian aggression.

1971: 3rd Indo-Pak war. India crosses the INTERNATIONAL BORDERS again in East Pakistan and creates Bangladesh.

And now India is talking about crossing INTERNATIONAL BORDERS again and the world is wondering why Pakistan needs nukes?





Pakistan was not a nuclear nation in 1965 or 1971.
Kargil (part of a disputed region) was different, Line of control is very different from International borders. Pakistan had Kargil in their hands but due to pressure from the Indian loving President of US Bill Clinton, Nawaz Sharif (then prime minister of Pakistan) ordered Pakistani troops to leave Kargil.


If India crosses INTERNATIONAL BORDERS once again, Pakistan should use all the weapons against India, including nuclear if necessary.

corrections Omar


1. 1948 you invaded a kingdom which chose neither Pakistan nor India as per mutually agreed terms concluded with the British. Your representatives raped and plundered forcing the king to aceede to India. Period.

2. 1965 you tried to occupy Sir Creek and later launched OP. Grandslam, a grand failure!!

3. You did not withdraw from Kargil. You were rather kicked out. You even refused to acknowledge and accept your own dead! Shame on you for refusing recognition to those valiant soldiers who died fighting for your nation!!

So please dont be proud of it.

 

[Hellfire]

Yea we'll see. Just try. Pakistan army will never allow Indians to strike any part of Pakistan, including Azad Kashmir.

Indians can dream on!

our SF operates across at specific camps ...... so yes we do move across when we want

 

[Omar1984]

3. You did not withdraw from Kargil. You were rather kicked out. You even refused to acknowledge and accept your own dead! Shame on you for refusing recognition to those valiant soldiers who died fighting for your nation!!

So please dont be proud of it.

You've been watching to much Indian media. Pakistani troops were ordered by Nawaz Sharif to pull out of Kargil after a telephone call from then US president Bill Clinton.

Here's a neutral source for you:
Kargil War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Omar1984]

our SF operates across at specific camps ...... so yes we do move across when we want

Just keep dreaming. You Indians think you can strike Azad Kashmir, just try. Why haven't you striked Azad Kashmir after Mumbai fraud? If you were going to do it, you would've done it months ago..but you know Pakistan will strike back at India.

What the hell do you Indians think you are?

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

IMO Pakistan will NOT retaliate as long as locations are just a couple and specifically terror/jihadi camps in pak controlled kashmir. there was a generalised call for blood post-Atlantique incident, but nothing happened of that too.

You are comparing apples and oranges here. The Atlantique incident gave India plausible deniablity due to the fact that India claimed it had crossed into its airspace. You cannot claim that some alleged camps moved into Indian territory.

What the IAF chief is claiming he would do are strikes on Pakistani soil, a violation of Pakistani sovereignty by India. At the least you will have your AC intercepted and engaged and/or military installations within India attacked.

India is not the US, and Pakistan's relationship with India is not like its relationship with the US, and therefore you will not be treated like the US.