India becomes world's 5th largest military spender, Pakistan not in the top 15 list

[Mangus Ortus Novem]

india should spend much more on its defence.

At least 200 billion a year. After all it is fastest growing economy in the world and soon to be number 3. So 200 bln is peanuts for indians... especially for a global power in the making!


Pakistan is doing some magic here. By spending just under 10 bln it is still able keep indians at bay. How come?


So who have most value for money then? Pak or india?

 

[hussain0216]

Considering what Pakistan has achieved on so little, imagine as our economy and budget improves what we could do

 

[HannibalBarca]

india should spend much more on its defence.

At least 200 billion a year. After all it is fastest growing economy in the world and soon to be number 3. So 200 bln is peanuts for indians... especially for a global power in the making!


Pakistan is doing some magic here. By spending just under 10 bln it is still able keep indians at bay. How come?


So who have most value for money then? Pak or india?

200Billions in India could change hundreds of cities... and take out Millions of indians out of poverty... and much more...

 

[ito]

Why wasting money... When youare in no direct conflict/war... China can use other things as weapon if a conflict arise... No need Hundreds of Billions of spending when you can use it in other more urgent/interesting investment...

No one will attack or declare war on China in those incoming decades... At least not the superpowers... maybe a little regional stupid country...but who knows...

China spends to take on US and establish its own sphere of influence. Majority of Chinese spending are for power projection and not for defence.

 

[footmarks]

India's problem is that it has to even buy nuts, bolts and screws from outside, it forces its expenditure up


Pakistan's budget is about 10billion, then we have a couple of billion dedicated to our missile and nuclear programme and occasionally seek additional government funds to purchase, sub's etc


What Pakistan has achieved on such a budget is frankly miraculous.
We have SLCMs and MIRV, our own jet fighter programme, cruise missiles, air launched cruise, TWNs and a big and expanding nuclear programme things countries with much larger budgets can only dream of

For all the limitations our engineer's, scientists, military should be congratulated for what they achieved when countries with so much more have to run abroad for everything

Congrats that you make your own nuts and bolts. Just make sure to screw them together

 

[hussain0216]

Congrats that you make your own nuts and bolts. Just make sure to screw them together

Maybe you can tell your military these words of wisdom before they flip over warships in dock and crash Su30s

 

[ito]

india should spend much more on its defence.

At least 200 billion a year. After all it is fastest growing economy in the world and soon to be number 3. So 200 bln is peanuts for indians... especially for a global power in the making!


Pakistan is doing some magic here. By spending just under 10 bln it is still able keep indians at bay. How come?


So who have most value for money then? Pak or india?

Soon or latter, India's defence spending will reach that figure. The average annual growth rate on defence spending is around 10%.

As on Pakistan, India has no intention of attacking Pakistan. So your nukes are more than enough to keep India at bay.

 

[Mangus Ortus Novem]

200Billions in India could change hundreds of cities... and take out Millions of indians out of poverty... and much more...

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My friend, that was the point exactly!

Making people aware of what the Truth is and the value of Development is a difficult task...


Regardless... what is important is that Pak must keep its defence spending frozen for at least a decade and march towards local production of all of its needs. This is already happening...would like to see it scaled up. Pak economy is in recovery mode...yet I would like to see Pak Friends freezing the defence spending to about 10 bln.

War is Stupid. And only Stupid go to war.

Regards,

SPF

 

[HannibalBarca]

China spends to take on US and establish its own sphere of influence. Majority of Chinese spending are for power projection and not for defence.

Power projection comes with allies... Foreign Investment...Foreign military bases... etc... China can spend 600Bil tomorow and that will not give her more "power projection" than the US...

In any power balance, you need the one next to you and those in front of you... And China is lacking it today. But thing start to change...Whatever it's with Arabs or with the African continent... But it has just started... you need decades to get to US influence... ( or pray that the US disappear in a blink of an eye..)

 

[xyxmt]

Lakin phir bhi phatti huey hay

 

[ito]

Power projection comes with allies... Foreign Investment...Foreign military bases... etc... China can spend 600Bil tomorow and that will not give her more "power projection" than the US...

In any power balance, you need the one next to you and those in front of you... And China is lacking it today. But thing start to change...Whatever it's with Arabs or with the African continent... But it has just started... you need decades to get to US influence... ( or pray that the US disappear in a blink of an eye..)

True to certain extent, but with waning US influence China has a chance...that is the reason why China is investing billions in various countries...in other words they are buying influence.

 

[The Accountant]

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/...-fifth-pakistan-us-russia-china/1/936738.html

India has become world's fifth largest military spender after the expenditure grew around 8.5 percent in 2016. Here are ten things to know about it.

IANS | Edited by Sanjana Agnihotri
New Delhi, April 24, 2017 | UPDATED 15:17 IST
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India has become world's fifth largest military spender after the expenditure grew around 8.5 per cent in 2016. According to figures released by the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI), India spent $55.9 billion in 2016.


Here are 10 things to know about the findings:

1. US remains the world's largest military spender with a growth of 1.7 per cent between 2015 and 2016 increasing the expenditure to $611 billion.
2. China's military expenditure has increased by 5.4 per cent and is now $215 billion. However, the growth rate is much lower than the previous years.
3. After China, third in line, is Russia with $69.2 billion and an increase of 5.9 percent.
4. Saudi Arabia dropped to the fourth position in 2016 after its spending dropped by 30 per cent despite continued involvement in regional wars.
5. The list of top 15 spenders include Japan, South Korea and Australia. Pakistan, with its $9.93 billion expenditure, does not figure in the top 15 list.
6. Military expenditure in Western Europe rose for the second consecutive year and was up by 2.6 per cent.
7. In 2016, the global military spending accounted for 2.2 per cent of the worldwide GDP.
8. Military spending as a share of GDP, was highest in the Middle East with an average of 6.0 per cent. However, data for all Middle Eastern countries was not available.
9. In Asia and Oceania (Australia, New Zealand, Fiji, and others), military expenditure rose by 4.6 per cent in 2016. Spending levels are related to the many tensions in the region such as over territorial rights in the South China Sea.
10. "The growth in US military expenditure in 2016 may signal the end of a trend of decreases in spending, which resulted from the economic crisis and the withdrawal of US troops from Afghanistan and Iraq," the report said.

Wow despite of being included in one of the most powerful militaries in the world we are not in top 15 spenders ... seems like we are more efficient than others ...

 

[HannibalBarca]

True to certain extent, but with waning US influence China has a chance...that is the reason why China is investing billions in various countries...in other words they are buying influence.

Yep they are building it... but they have quite along way to go.

 

[ito]

Yep they are building it... but they have quite along way to go.

Yes, China has a quite a long way to go. China pales in comparison to the influence that US enjoys at present.

 

[The Accountant]

Yes, China has a quite a long way to go. China pales in comparison to the influence that US enjoys at present.

I don't think China has a long way to go as alot of USA's policies are forcing her to self-destruction ... They have created too much mess around ... Specially in middle east ... Alot of muslim countries which use to be buddy state of US now are moving away faster than expected and they have no choice other than China ...

Furthermore,,, USA economy is not recovering ,,, USA managed it influence through economic aid but given the amount of US debt ,,, US has limited options left ...

There is no second thought that atleast for a decade there is no match to US military might but US economic might and influence is reducing gradually and China is just filling the gap ....