India, Bangladesh agree on northeastern rail link

[Nitin Tomer]

That was the breakaway province of Mughals otherwise Bangladesh had always been ruled from Delhi or Patliputra throughout history.

Brother @Gigawatt have you heard about the Pala Empire?

 

[INDIC]

Brother @Gigawatt have you heard about the Pala Empire?

It was also ruling Bangladesh from a city completely inside India now. Bangladesh had always been ruled from an Indian city.

 

[asad71]

That was the breakaway province of Mughals otherwise Bangladesh had always been ruled from Delhi or Patliputra throughout history.

That's incorrect. We have always crossed swords with Delhi rulers till Aurangzeb Alamgir declared Hindustan a Dar ul Islam. Then we had no objection of accepting the Emperor as the representative of the Amir ul Momenin who was the Caliph in Damascus.

 

[eastwatch]

Someone is assuming Indian NE was under the sovereignty of Sube Banglah. But, it was not. Assam and NE were annexed by the British Bengal Govt. sometime around 1790s (?) only after Burma attacked and captured that region.

 

[INDIC]

That's incorrect. We have always crossed swords with Delhi rulers till Aurangzeb Alamgir declared Hindustan a Dar ul Islam. Then we had no objection of accepting the Emperor as the representative of the Amir ul Momenin who was the Caliph in Damascus.

Then why Bengal became a breakaway province of Mughal Empire. Starting from Nanda Empire to the partition of India, Bangladesh was always ruled from some Indian city, even Gaur is an Indian city.

 

[asad71]

Then why Bengal became a breakaway province of Mughal Empire. Starting from Nanda Empire to the partition of India, Bangladesh was always ruled from some Indian city, even Gaur is an Indian city.

Wrong again. Gaurd used to be Bengal's capital once. Perhaps you are confusing India with Hindu. They are two different things.

 

[eastwatch]

Then why Bengal became a breakaway province of Mughal Empire. Starting from Nanda Empire to the partition of India, Bangladesh was always ruled from some Indian city, even Gaur is an Indian city.

I think, you have a wrong conception of ruling. It is not the Cities that rule a region or a country. Rather, it is a certain group of people who rule. In case of Bangladesh it is a new country, but the people are the descendants of those who fought Delhi for centuries during muslim period.

The last great war was fought for at least a 30 year period from (1575AD - 1605AD), although it really started in 1526AD after Babar won the 1st Battle of Panipath and captured Delhi. All the Pathan retinues and dependents of (killed) Sultan Ibrahim Lodi vacated north India and came to take shelter under Sultan Nasrat Shah of an independent Bengal.

It was Sher Shah who finally took over the throne of Bengal from Sultan Mahmud Shah in 1537 and joined this region with Delhi Sultanat in 1539 after he defeated (Mughal) Humayun in two battles at Chousa and Bilgram. So, Bengal was not really a breakaway Province of Delhi, although we all cherish the good governance of the Mughals.

The Pathan retinues and dependents again fled Delhi and west/north India after Adil Shah was defeated by Humayun at the 2nd Battle of Panipath in 1556AD and fled to Bengal to take shelter among their own kin and relatives. These people spearheaded the long 30 year old war against Delhi. All the Muslim Chieftains (Baro Bhuyan) of Bengal of that time who fought against Mughal domination belonged to this stock.

Same as we cherish Mughal time we also cherish the time of Sher Shah because he was from Bengal region. His grandfather was from Afghanistan, but his father and himself were born and brought up in Sasaram of today's Bihar, which, in historical times, was a part of greater Bengal. There are many millions of such foreign-blooded Muslims in Bihar, west Bengal, Orissa and Bangladesh.

Yes, Pataliputra was the center of a great empire that extended up to Afghanistan. But, this history cannot be analogous to the history of Bengal that unraveled after the conquest of this region by the Muslims from Afghanistan under Bakhtiar Khilji in 1198AD.

As I said not Cities but the people rule. So, it is equivocal to cite the name of a few cities that lie in today's India. These are Lakkhanabati or Lukhnouti, Gour, Pandua and Murshidabad.

 

[Hellraiser007]

Bengal, Bihar and Orissa, including NE was the sovereign state that the English took from us. It is natural for us to want that back.

As if you people are representing Bengal

Majority people are wannabe Arabs, wannabe turks and Timurids migrated from UP, Bihar.

Majority Hindus who were the real rulers of Bengal are in WB during partition.

 

[asad71]

As if you people are representing Bengal

Majority people are wannabe Arabs, wannabe turks and Timurids migrated from UP, Bihar.

Majority Hindus who were the real rulers of Bengal are in WB during partition.

Mr Expert on BD,

The Hindu majority were first wiped off by the Buddhists to be decimated by the Hindus in turn. Now the Hindus are a minority in BD as well as P/Bangla because of natural causes, conversions and migration. Soon - very soon, people will say, To Be a Bengalee is To Be a Muslim.

 

[the just]

As if you people are representing Bengal

Majority people are wannabe Arabs, wannabe turks and Timurids migrated from UP, Bihar.

Majority Hindus who were the real rulers of Bengal are in WB during partition.

And they should stay there.where they belong.

 

[Hellraiser007]

And they should stay there.where they belong.

Apply the same logic to the religious bigots who are also wannabe arabs.

Mr Expert on BD,

The Hindu majority were first wiped off by the Buddhists to be decimated by the Hindus in turn. Now the Hindus are a minority in BD as well as P/Bangla because of natural causes, conversions and migration. Soon - very soon, people will say, To Be a Bengalee is To Be a Muslim.

Religion is never going to be an identity and the same logic was failed in Pakistan. Hindus and Bengalis are abundant in India, It was religion that did the Partition of our Bharat and the result Punjabis and Bengalis were the worst hit, where as the people who are slaves of Mughals and wannabe Arabs went to Bangladeshis and they do not represent a Bengalee
.

It is like Arabs calling the Great Egyptian civilization as theirs.

 

[animelive]

where as the people who are slaves of Mughals and wannabe Arabs went to Bangladeshis and they do not represent a Bengalee
.

Yes real bengalis are dada babus from west bengal who take pride in defeating Delhi people while being under Delhi rule

by the way, we take pretty much pride in being Bengali. Islam ≠ Arab

 

[Hellraiser007]

Yes real bengalis are dada babus from west bengal who take pride in defeating Delhi people while being under Delhi rule

by the way, we take pretty much pride in being Bengali. Islam ≠ Arab

Oh is it

Delhi is not against Bengalis first point and New Delhi won't suppress any regional culture unlike your West Pakistani Brothers who tried to wipe Bengali culture and install Arabic culture through Jamaat.

Going by the comments of majority BD's most of them claim to be Timurid, Arabs etc...etc..., Where are people from Indian Bengal feel proud of their culture.

 

[Zabaniyah]

Thread has been derailed enough.

Closed.