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India asks Pakistan to hand over 20 "fugitives".

And ibraheen dawood was in india for ages....why did you not arrest him them

Advani, first leader of the Opposition to visit Pakistan officially, was received at the Airport by Syed Mushahid Hussain, Secretary General of the Pakistan Muslim League. He has visited Pakistan twice once 1978 and 2005. He was infact born in Karachi.

Advani arrives in Pakistan for a week-long visit

Dawood Ibrahim is a terrorist you will find his name in the FBI List of Absconders.
Most Probably is in Pakistan. He is absconding sine 1993 Mumbai Blasts.

Dawood Ibrahim in Pakistan: FBI
 
Pakistan will not hand over terror suspects: Reports

3 Dec 2008, 1306 hrs IST, PTI

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan will not hand over any of the listed 20 terrorists wanted by India in the wake of the terror attacks in Mumbai, according to a
media report.

Some of the terrorists in the list currently do not live in the country while others are under constant surveillance by Pakistan's security and intelligence agencies, official sources told the The News daily.

"There is no precedent of handing over any alleged suspect to India and vice versa. So turning these 20 persons over to India is out of question because we have our own surveillance apparatus in place and we have confirmed that none of them was involved in any suspected activity while some of them are currently not even living in Pakistan," the paper quoted an official as saying.

"The organisations banned by the (Pervez) Musharraf regime in the wake of the 9/11 incident have been under constant surveillance and all those freed have already been cleared by intelligence agencies after thorough investigations," he said.

There has been no official word on the names included in the list, which was discussed at a meeting of political parties convened yesterday by Pakistan Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani to evolve a consensus on dealing with the tensions with India.

Emerging from the meeting, former federal minister Sheikh Rashid Ahmed said the names of underworld don Dawood Ibrahim and Tiger Memon and Jaish-e-Mohammed founder Maulana Masood Azhar figured in the list. Ahmed also said there was nothing new about India's demand for handing over these men.

The name of Lashker-e-Taiba founder Hafiz Mohammed Saeed is also on the list, official sources said. The LeT has been blamed by Indian security officials for carrying out the Mumbai attacks.

After the LeT was banned by Pakistan in 2001, Saeed formed the Jamat-ud-Dawah, which has its headquarters at Muridke near Lahore.

India says Dawood Ibrahim, the mastermind of the 1993 bombings in Mumbai that killed nearly 260 people, is living in Pakistan but authorities here have denied the accusation.

The official told paper that members of the outlawed groups, who were involved in suspicious activities, had been apprehended when a crackdown was launched against such elements by the Musharraf regime.

Jamat-ud-Dawah spokesman Yahya Mujahid rejected Indian charges about Saeed's links to the attacks and said Pakistani authorities are "already watching their activities". Had there been any doubts, "they would not have been allowed to go free", he said.

"Everybody knows that the previous regime would not have let us live in freedom had it suspected any of our activities. It is mere Indian propaganda so as to conceal the failure of its intelligence and law enforcement agencies," Mujahid claimed.

"The Indian claims are aimed at hoodwinking the Indian people. However, it is up to the Pakistani government to decide as to what to do and how to respond to the Indian demand in a befitting manner," he said.

When his attention was drawn to reports about fears that India might carry out air strikes on the headquarters of the Jamat-ud-Dawah in Muridke, Mujahid refused to comment saying it was the responsibility of Pakistan's armed forces to protect the country's frontiers against any outside aggression.

"Like all other people of the country, we will stand behind the armed forces of the country if the Indians resort to any aggression against Pakistan to conceal their own criminal negligence that resulted in the Mumbai mayhem," he said
 
Advani, first leader of the Opposition to visit Pakistan officially, was received at the Airport by Syed Mushahid Hussain, Secretary General of the Pakistan Muslim League. He has visited Pakistan twice once 1978 and 2005. He was infact born in Karachi.

Advani arrives in Pakistan for a week-long visit

Dawood Ibrahim is a terrorist you will find his name in the FBI List of Absconders.
Most Probably is in Pakistan. He is absconding sine 1993 Mumbai Blasts.

Dawood Ibrahim in Pakistan: FBI
yes like the ghost binladen is in pakistan
if dawood ibrahim is in pakistan
in india there is serving indian army kernal purohit who has murderd 68 pakistani citizens
 
Pakistan will not hand over terror suspects: Reports

3 Dec 2008, 1306 hrs IST, PTI

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan will not hand over any of the listed 20 terrorists wanted by India in the wake of the terror attacks in Mumbai, according to a
media report.

Some of the terrorists in the list currently do not live in the country while others are under constant surveillance by Pakistan's security and intelligence agencies, official sources told the The News daily.

"There is no precedent of handing over any alleged suspect to India and vice versa. So turning these 20 persons over to India is out of question because we have our own surveillance apparatus in place and we have confirmed that none of them was involved in any suspected activity while some of them are currently not even living in Pakistan," the paper quoted an official as saying.

"The organisations banned by the (Pervez) Musharraf regime in the wake of the 9/11 incident have been under constant surveillance and all those freed have already been cleared by intelligence agencies after thorough investigations," he said.

There has been no official word on the names included in the list, which was discussed at a meeting of political parties convened yesterday by Pakistan Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani to evolve a consensus on dealing with the tensions with India.

Emerging from the meeting, former federal minister Sheikh Rashid Ahmed said the names of underworld don Dawood Ibrahim and Tiger Memon and Jaish-e-Mohammed founder Maulana Masood Azhar figured in the list. Ahmed also said there was nothing new about India's demand for handing over these men.

The name of Lashker-e-Taiba founder Hafiz Mohammed Saeed is also on the list, official sources said. The LeT has been blamed by Indian security officials for carrying out the Mumbai attacks.

After the LeT was banned by Pakistan in 2001, Saeed formed the Jamat-ud-Dawah, which has its headquarters at Muridke near Lahore.

India says Dawood Ibrahim, the mastermind of the 1993 bombings in Mumbai that killed nearly 260 people, is living in Pakistan but authorities here have denied the accusation.

The official told paper that members of the outlawed groups, who were involved in suspicious activities, had been apprehended when a crackdown was launched against such elements by the Musharraf regime.

Jamat-ud-Dawah spokesman Yahya Mujahid rejected Indian charges about Saeed's links to the attacks and said Pakistani authorities are "already watching their activities". Had there been any doubts, "they would not have been allowed to go free", he said.

"Everybody knows that the previous regime would not have let us live in freedom had it suspected any of our activities. It is mere Indian propaganda so as to conceal the failure of its intelligence and law enforcement agencies," Mujahid claimed.

"The Indian claims are aimed at hoodwinking the Indian people. However, it is up to the Pakistani government to decide as to what to do and how to respond to the Indian demand in a befitting manner," he said.

When his attention was drawn to reports about fears that India might carry out air strikes on the headquarters of the Jamat-ud-Dawah in Muridke, Mujahid refused to comment saying it was the responsibility of Pakistan's armed forces to protect the country's frontiers against any outside aggression.

"Like all other people of the country, we will stand behind the armed forces of the country if the Indians resort to any aggression against Pakistan to conceal their own criminal negligence that resulted in the Mumbai mayhem," he said

Whats new ?

At least GOP admits terrorists are alive & well in Pak. If they are terrorists as admitted by GOP ( ref highlighted portion), why are they on under survelliance & not brought to the book ?
 
yes like the ghost binladen is in pakistan
if dawood ibrahim is in pakistan
in india there is serving indian army kernal purohit who has murderd 68 pakistani citizens

The name of purohit is doing rounds here its ploy in India by congress to paint its main opposition in bad light to win election the accusation have absolutely no substance even to be presented in courts.
 
kerkare was target killed beacause he was exposing hindu terrorism links in the intel. services and armed forces
now the congress is under pressure from bjp to take action against pakistan.if they don,t take an agressive stance against pakistan they will in trouble.



now we should hang sarabjit singh
 
Whats new ?

At least GOP admits terrorists are alive & well in Pak. If they are terrorists as admitted by GOP ( ref highlighted portion), why are they on under survelliance & not brought to the book ?

The term 'terrorists' to refer to these people was used by the author, not the GoP. On why they are under surveillance, probably because they are suspected of having links to violence, and probably due to the situation we are seeing now, lack of cooperation with India in conducting joint investigations, sharing evidence and trying these people.
 
The term 'terrorists' to refer to these people was used by the author, not the GoP. On why they are under surveillance, probably because they are suspected of having links to violence, and probably due to the situation we are seeing now, lack of cooperation with India in conducting joint investigations, sharing evidence and trying these people.

Aww C'mon..

Show me a rebuttal of these remarks by GOP. Its all fine to defend a point but sometimes its better to accept it.

How will GOP solve its prob if it doesn't accept there is one ?
 
Aww C'mon..

Show me a rebuttal of these remarks by GOP. Its all fine to defend a point but sometimes its better to accept it.

How will GOP solve its prob if it doesn't accept there is one ?

A rebuttal of what, someones opinion?

What can or cannot be rebutted are the facts presented in the article - the claim that Pakistan is not handing over those 20 people. I believe that is true with a caveat - not being handed over so long as India does not provide evidence of their complicity in the Mumbai attacks.
 
A rebuttal of what, someones opinion?

What can or cannot be rebutted are the facts presented in the article - the claim that Pakistan is not handing over those 20 people. I believe that is true with a caveat - not being handed over so long as India does not provide evidence of their complicity in the Mumbai attacks.

Why not ?

There can be no movement so long as Pak remains in denial...the acid is now eating into the container friend.

The Pres will go back to the UK to his millions,leaving the nation to burn.
 
Why not ?

There can be no movement so long as Pak remains in denial...the acid is now eating into the container friend.

The Pres will go back to the UK to his millions,leaving the nation to burn.

You still haven't shown me how we are in denial, when India hasn't even provided evidence indicating the culpability of these individuals in Mumbai.

Quite honestly I am not sure why Indians have such anathema to cooperating and sharing evidence. You are:

1. Not certain that any evidence exists (at this point atleast).

2. Stepped in a superiority complex that requires you to merely 'demand' that Pakistan act on India's wishes.

Pakistan has called for a joint investigative team and assured cooperation. Can't do much more than that.
US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice has said that Pakistan must act "fully and transparently" in efforts to bring the Mumbai attackers to justice.

Indeed, notice that she referred to the 'Mumbai attackers'. The GoP has already indicated it will do as much. Now will India share the evidence on the Mumbai attackers? Time is of essence.
 
You still haven't shown me how we are in denial, when India hasn't even provided evidence indicating the culpability of these individuals in Mumbai.

Quite honestly I am not sure why Indians have such anathema to cooperating and sharing evidence. You are:

1. Not certain that any evidence exists (at this point atleast).

2. Stepped in a superiority complex that requires you to merely 'demand' that Pakistan act on India's wishes.

Pakistan has called for a joint investigative team and assured cooperation. Can't do much more than that.


Can't u see it ?

What the GOP says amounts ' we too are plagued by the same virus" thereby implying that we too are an aggrieved party by what goes on inside Pak.

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Dear 3rd eye, quite frankly you need to improve your knowledge a little because in one of the thread you consdiered "non state actors" a new term coined by Zardari. Honestly, if you don't know what is the role of non state actors in today's world, it is quite useless discussing 21st century terrorism with you.... :lol:
 
The name of purohit is doing rounds here its ploy in India by congress to paint its main opposition in bad light to win election the accusation have absolutely no substance even to be presented in courts.


Sure enough, the name of Narendra Modi is also still doing rounds in hindustan and i think you are the one who would also be in denial of those attrocities committed by him. The reason why these names will only continue to make rounds in India is well known to you.... we also know enough about Indian politics to know who is doing politics on what policy and ideology in hindustan. :hitwall:
 

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