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India asks Pakistan to end illegal occupation of Kashmir


New York, Sep 23 (IANS) With Pakistan trying to rake up the Kashmir issue at the United Nations General Assembly, India has asserted that Islamabad is in illegal possession of certain parts of the state and asked it to first vacate it before advising New Delhi.


'As far as Pakistan is concerned, they are in illegal occupation of certain parts of Jammu and Kashmir,' Krishna told NDTV in an interview.

'I think that it is desirable that they vacate that first and then start advising India about how to go about doing things in Kashmir,' he said.


Alluding to the recent visit of an all-party delegation to Kashmir, Krishna underlined that the Indian government was trying to address genuine grievances of people by putting in place institutional and individual mechanisms. 'The government of India is fully conscious about its responsibilities,' he said.

Pakistani Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi Tuesday sought the intervention of the United States and the international community to help resolve the Kashmir issue.

'The international community must recognize that the people of Kashmir, in an entirely indigenous upsurge, are demanding their right to self-determination,' Qureshi said in an address at the Council on Foreign Relations, a New York think tank.

'The occupation cannot continue,' he had said.

India had also strongly objected to the statements on Kashmir made by the Pakistan foreign office last week and in the two houses of Pakistani parliament - the National Assembly and the Senate -Tuesday, alleging human rights violations there and calling for international intervention.

'They have no locus standi on what is purely an internal affair of India,' external affairs ministry spokesperson Vishnu Prakash said here Tuesday. 'Pakistan should tackle the issues of constitutional safeguards, democracy, extremism, terrorism and human rights violations in the part of Jammu & Kashmir under its illegal occupation,' he added.

India asks Pakistan to end illegal occupation of Kashmir
 
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I think the anti india riots are happening in IOK and nothing anti-pakistan in AJK :D

ulta chor kotwal ko dante!

Learning from our experience with insurgents I hope the indians dont wish for providing them another legit venue for jihad which would actually hold popular support in Pakistan.

Their argument will stand them very weak in any UN debate if Pakistan plays its card rights. Can some one post pictures of INdian flag being hoisted in AJK??

There are plently of ghazwa e hind fanboys in Pakistan!
 
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what ???

But i think so all Asian strategy focused on Kashmir....

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I think the anti india riots are happening in IOK and nothing anti-pakistan in AJK :D

ulta chor kotwal ko dante!

Learning from our experience with insurgents I hope the indians dont wish for providing them another legit venue for jihad which would actually hold popular support in Pakistan.

There are plently of ghazwa e hind fanboys in Pakistan!

Gilgit-Baltistan: Security Forces clamp down on Protests

Pakistani security forces in Gilgit-Baltistan have pre-emptively adopted measures to suppress any rising protests from the population and are bypassing local authorities.


Political turmoil continues to plague Gilgit-Baltistan. Authorities have banned pillion riding fearing further unrest as thousands of natives plan to protest excesses by Pakistani security forces. Gilgit-Baltistan is an area with rampant poverty and people cannot afford to purchase cars to ride to work, schools or businesses. Motorbikes are considered the affordable means of transportation. Ban on pillion riding will therefore restrict freedom of movement of majority of the natives while the terrorists will continue to roam at large.

Shia leader of Gilgit Baltistan, Agha Rahat Ali has stated that aged and ill innocent people are among those targeted by Pakistani security forces in the name of maintaining law and order. :angry::angry:He said that security forces continue to torture innocent youth and aged with impunity. Many of those abducted and tortured are now getting treatment in local hospital. Security forces are bypassing local authorities and arresting natives accusing them of challenging the forces. He demanded complete and immediate withdrawal of Pakistani Rangers and transfer of security apparatus to Gilgit-Baltistan Scouts. Agha Rahat, who has a following in hundreds of thousands, was addressing a large congregation on Friday.

Shia Ulema (Clerics) Council of Gilgit has also accused Pakistani authorities and security forces of targeting the Shia families on discriminatory basis in the name of search operation, which is going on in Gilgit since last two weeks. The operation is feared to bring thousands of protestors on the streets in the coming days. The council passed a resolution calling the actions of security forces un-constitutional and illegal. The council also accused terrorists of receiving support from security forces. :tdown::tdown:

UNPO: Gilgit-Baltistan: Security Forces clamp down on Protests
 
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Gilgit-Baltistan: Security Forces clamp down on Protests



UNPO: Gilgit-Baltistan: Security Forces clamp down on Protests


So much for UNPOs report. There is an anti-terrorist operations going on in northern Pakistan and there is a very real possibility of insurgents infusing their jehadi agenda taking advantage of recent situation in IOK. Damn if we do, damn if we dont..even if that guarding indian intrests indirectly.

and now some journalistic standard assestment..

Trust me a millitary ambition in AJK will not be a sugar pill..dont know about others but I can personally gurantee myself as a "moderate and enlightened person" to join the fight if such a need arise..

dont see the headline repeating anywhere else..looks like counsultant was ToI!

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I think the anti india riots are happening in IOK and nothing anti-pakistan in AJK

ulta chor kotwal ko dante!
That does not change the fact that by any logic if pakistan considers indian occupation illegal then why cant the indians take a similar stance.Would u consider the 'occupation legal' if their were no riots happening??
 
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Gilgit Baltistan: Abdul Hamid Khan Adresses House of Lords

Abdul Hamid Khan addresses the House of Lords in London, England on the Human Rights Violations by the Pakistan Government toward the peoples of Gilgit Baltistan.

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Mr Abdul Hamid Khan, Chairman of Balawaristan National Front (BNF) engaged in a debate in the House of Lords, London UK on the topic of human rights abuses in Gilgit Baltistan.

Mr Khan, speaking on behalf of the Gilgit Baltistan Democratic Alliance (GBDA), used the opportunity to address Honourable Baroness Emma Nicholson and distinguished guests in the House of Lords on the concerns of people of Gilgit Baltistan, located in northern Pakistan. His address included reports of forcible eviction and killings and outlined the reasons for rejecting the new Pakistani package as it represents a deprivation of freedom for the people of Gilgit Baltistan.

The implications of planned dams on the livelihood of people living in close proximity to the River Indus were also considered. Mr Khan concluded by recommending key steps for Great Britain to take to draw attention to these issues on an international stage.

Engaged in the debate were leaders from Jammu and Kashmir, Indian and Pakistani journalists and diplomats as well as prominent Kashmiri leaders Mr. Afzal Tahir, Nadim Aslam and Najib Afsar, Prof. Nazir Tabassum,, Shams Rehman, Dr. RP Sharma and Ani Bhanot. Following the debate, Abdul Hamid Khan, Dr. Shabir Choudhry and Mohammad Anwar, Chief Editor of London based Pakistani newspaper NEWS, held a press conference with Baroness Emma Nicholson in the British Parliament

Below is the speech presented by Abdul Hamid Khan in the House of Lords or click here for a pdf version.

Speech of Abdul Hamid Khan in House of Lords
Honourable Baroness Emma Nicholson, diplomats, journalists and distinguished guests

Pakistan has sought to hoodwink the people and the world by maintaining a facade of democratic rule since 1969 during General Yahya regime and then during Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto after 1971 and then made another fraud by terming it as LFO/Rules of Business in 1994. The local representative body called Northern Areas Legislative Council (NALC) was again re-named as per the Legal Framework Order of 1994 which also gives the same old powers to the Minister for KANA and nothing for the local Chief Executive of the NALC.

Pakistan has widely propagated for the recent 5th Package and its fraudulent Elections for the so-called Legislative Assembly and Council of Gilgit Baltistan.

We the people of Balawaristan reject this new Pakistani package, because this will create more deprivation, lack of Justice and snatch our freedom than ever Pakistan wants to use this puppet Council and so-called Assembly as rubber stamp to endorse all the Pakistani demands and orders.

In February this year Pakistani occupation forces killed 3 innocent demonstrators in Chilas and killed dozens when they demonstrated against the forcibly eviction of their land to construct Diamar Bhasha Dam for the interest of Pakistani Punjab and to make strong presence of its forces and personnel of ISI, so to keep its control firmly along with the presence of Chinese Military presence.

China by taking leases of precious mines including copper, Gold and Uranium etc, by constructing Air Strips on the Road, Railways and Dams is creating serious problems to the environment, demography, geography and political dispensation.

After the announcement of the so-called package Pakistani intelligence agency the ISI killed dozens of local indigenous people in Gilgit with the evil intention to divide the people on sectarian lines before the arrival of Prime Minister of Pakistan, so no one could dare to protest against the package.

1. The indigenous people of this part are facing serious loss of properties and life from the River Indus, which has not been taken in to account before India held Water Treaty with Pakistan in 1960 which does not suits to a democratic attitude of any country.

2. 6 Mega Dams which Pakistan have planned to build in Gilgit Baltistan by force by submerging half of the population of this disputed part, which bring drastic situation to the surrounding population as well as wild life and nature. 1960 Water Treaty does not allow Pakistan and China to destroy Gilgit Baltistan and to change its demography.

3. By keeping in mind the disputed nature of this part (Pakistan Occupied Gilgit Baltistan) Pakistan should be refrained from constructing 6 Mega Dams (Diamar Bhasha Dam, Bonji Dam, Hanzel Dam near Gilgit City, Skardu Dam and Ghanchhe Dam) in disputed Gilgit Baltistan on Indus River as a consequences more than half of the indigenous population will be vanished completely. Besides displacement of more than Million population out of total 2 million, the drastic change of weather would bring un-bearable crisis to the region in future.

Recently during UNHRC Session in Geneva, ISI broken houses of 3 leaders of GBDA in Gilgit City, including Adv. Ehsan Ali a prominent leader of GBDA who is also an ex president of Gilgit Baltistan Bar Council and another Adv. Wazir Shaif’s. This rampage continued and a third leader of GBDA Mr. Sultan Madad’s GBDA house was also broken, who had been invited for UNHRC Session Geneva. His passport was stolen along with other documents. This was the intention of ISI to keep the people of this disputed region out of UN bodies and international communities on one side and to harass the nationalists on the other. While Pakistan Army had announced a couple of months before that it has ended the interference in to politics, but in Gilgit Baltistan and *** it has been increased in to dangerous level, where civilian government has no role to play.

It is the duty of UN and UK also to protect the lives, unique culture, language, property and dignity of the local people from the Pakistani occupation forces and its intelligence agency the ISI, which are the partners of USA and UK in the so-called war against terrorism.

Great Britain should take serious notice of ISI's new attempt to bring the disputed parts of Jammu & Kashmir, occupied Gilgit Baltistan and Chitral as their war field after Swat, so the people would be killed by ISI, terming them terrorists till their resistance power against the Pakistani occupation would be perished. This multipronged strategy of Pakistan Army has created serious threat to the lives, property and existence of the indigenous people, their culture, history, language and traditions. This evil strategy of Pakistan Army to use terrorism and fundamentalism against democratic and peace-loving people has also put the co-existence and tolerance of the world community on dangerous level.

Great Britain should also consider the fate of non-Muslim communities of (Kalash) Chitral, besides Brelvi, Shia and Ismailia Muslims after Wahabi Sect Sharia laws are imposed, if Talibaan and its masters and financiers are not defeated. There is no common Sharia law in the whole Muslim world; but Taliban, Al-Qaeda and Pakistan Army want to impose Wahabi laws by force which is unacceptable to us.

Terrorism menace has serious implication on the peaceful solution of Jammu & Kashmir and Balawaristan (China and Pakistan Occupied Gilgit Baltistan, Chitral and Shenaki Kohistan).

May I have your attention, I have the privilege to make an announcement here, I have been given the assignment by Gilgit Baltistan Democratic Alliance (GBDA) to represent them on international fora.

I and the GBDA are thankful of those leaders of J&K, who have been highlighting the issue of Gilgit Baltistan on Pakistan as well as on international level, which bared Pakistan to annex it in to its territory. It’s a fact that in the whole history of Gilgit Baltistan after British departure from Sub-continent, I am alone who have applied for asylum from this region and that is the main reason that Gilgit Baltistan has lack of representation on international level like J&K. Now, my party as well as GBDA has realised, that the people of Gilgit Baltistan and the son of soil has the right to represent Gilgit Baltistan on international level, so our unique culture, language, history, political and economical rights are protected, which are totally different from J&K. It’s regrettable to say that some leaders, who belong to Jammu & Kashmir and have been representing Gilgit Baltistan for their own interest.


We are only comfortable with such Kashmiris, who have open and clear stand of freedom and independence and don’t want to be a part of such party, whose agenda is ambiguous or revolves around religion or financial or any other interest or prejudice instead of real nationalism.

We the people of Gilgit Baltistan do not have good experience with the leaders of J&K in the past. The worst example of 28th April 1949 fraud agreement with Pakistan in Karachi.
I request the leaders and people of J&K to help us whatever help we want and do not cross the limit of friendship like that the manner of Sardar Ibrahim and Choudhry Gholam Abbas who did fraud with the people of Gilgit Baltistan in 1949.

Yes, our issue is the same, we both the people of J&K and Gilgit Baltistan are on the same disputed boat, but our interest are different in many fields. We the people of Gilgit Baltistan want independence from the clutches of Pakistan and do not want to fall in the hands of Kashmiris for another slavery. We want equal partnership and we do not want to lose our identity as Gilgiti Balti and Chitrali for Kashmir. Kashmir is one part, Jammu is another, Ladakh, Gilgit, Baltistan, Chitral and Shenaki Kohistan are another truth. Being here in UK and Europe nobody wants to give sacrifices for another. If the name, culture, tradition and politics of Kashmiris are imposed, that is impossible for us to accept . If, Kashmiris change their habit and accept other nationalities like Jamwal or Ponchis, Mirpuri, Gilgiti, Balti, Chitrali and Kohistanis, which are the strongest realities, then a common system can be stepped. If Kashmiris want to demolish our culture, identity and history in the same manner what Pakistanis have been doing for 63 years, that will never allow us to be united. Don’t consider my words as harsh or opposition or conspiracy or the dictation of someone. Today I am compelled to elucidate the current behaviour of many Kashmiri leaders, who want to impose their own agenda on the people of Gilgit Baltistan by mere claiming over it. This is the main reason that we some of the friends of the people of J&K are facing inner problems because of our Kashmir stand.

I appreciate the sincerity and sympathy of honourable Emma Nicholson, who have chosen the name of Princely States instead of imposing Kashmir, which can lead us toward a solution in near future. Unless and until we do accept all the values of each and every princely state, the goal of freedom will not be visible at any distance.

We appeal the government of UK to persuade China not to involve itself in the occupation process of Balawaristan (Pakistan occupied Gilgit Baltistan) by taking lease of precious mines including copper, Gold and Uranium etc), by constructing Railways, Roads and Dams to change its environment, demography and geography on one side and export and import WMD on the other.
We also appeal to China not to construct any secret tunnel and Airstrip on KKH, which will be harmful to the region.

We also appeal to United Kingdom, European Union and United Nations particularly to put pressure on China and Pakistan to withdraw their forces from Gilgit Baltistan .
Instead of playing new Package tricks, 2 million people of this disputed region could decide their future without China and Pakistani interference by a free and impartial referendum or Election for a constitutional Assembly under the supervision of the UN according to its resolution of 13th Aug. 1948. This is the only solution to avoid any future conflict between, Pakistan, India, China, Russia, USA or Europe.

Abdul Hamid Khan
Chairman
Balawaristan National Front (BNF)
Head Office: Majini Mahla, Gilgit, Balawaristan (Pakistan Occupied Gilgit Baltistan)

UNPO: Gilgit Baltistan: Abdul Hamid Khan Adresses House of Lords
 
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Pakistan has to leave kashmir and also give away Baltistan, Baloch..

Thats when we are going to leave kashmir
 
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^^^OMG

From how many days GB is under curfew??? How many doing protest???

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Pakistan has to leave kashmir and also give away Baltistan, Baloch..

Thats when we are going to leave kashmir
Soon you'll too open new thread showing your orignal name....Just like Rahul Indian.....
 
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indian propaganda ...... riots in gilgit baltistan are ethnic and shia sunni..... nothing more come on .. indian loosers
 
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^^^OMG

From how many days GB is under curfew??? How many doing protest???

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Soon you'll too open new thread showing your orignal name....Just like Rahul Indian.....

Nah! I wont.. I do feel the same how you do.... you can hold on to kashmir and baloch while we manage our part of kashmir....
 
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they are raising voice to get full status of province rather than attaching them with kashmir........
 
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we never said we want to occupy kashmir.... pakistan has already offered to declare khasmir military free zone.... its india who is not ready....
 
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I am surprised the depths of shallowness Indians will go to uphold their view on pakistan even if that means posting articles from lonely sources..

First UNPO and now Balawaristan National Front (BNF)??
Serioys WTF?? Can anyone from KP confirm if they have heard about this BNF bozo??? Dude there are tons of self intrest regional parties in Pakistan wet dreaming to become monarch of certain area..

BLA, BNF, etc etc are from the same leauge!

Building dams is important and one cannot jeoperdize their importance over uprooting of some rural people. The benefits bought by dams will compensate to loss of these people with better economy and agriculture oppurtunities. However self serving morons like to stir popular sentiments by exploiting ignorance of average rural person. A moron has to go as far as house of lords to make him heard..couldnt find enough local takes..its a trend of all failed politicans to find their self importance in UK.

The BNF losers were part of 12 nov elections..yet PPP and MQM took away the majority..speaks a lot about who wants to live with who?



nobody was stoning them.
 
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