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US should back India for UNSC: American expert


Washington: The Obama administration should announce its support for a permanent seat for India on the UN Security Council during Prime Minister Manmohan Singh's visit to the White House next week, a US expert contends.



Although it would produce no immediate results, the bold declaration would signal New Delhi's growing importance to Washington, and the Obama administration's recognition of the changing global centre of gravity, says a new policy brief by Ashley J Tellis, senior associate at Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.

During Manmohan Singh's visit, both countries will likely announce new programmes in areas ranging from agriculture to counter-terrorism, medicine, energy, trade and more.

But Tellis, who advised the previous Bush administration on the landmark India-US civil nuclear deal, identifies two areas where cooperation will be most challenging, and most vital: non-proliferation and climate change.

Contending that India is unlikely to sign the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty (CTBT), he said this would leave a strong possibility that even if the US ratifies the agreement, it will never come into force.

Noting that India's integration into the global non-proliferation regime remains incomplete, Tellis suggested that the US should work to integrate India into global non-proliferation institutions, including the Proliferation Security Initiative, the Nuclear Suppliers Group, Australia Group, and the Zangger Committee.

Though it shares American concerns over Iran's nuclear ambitions, India has not been asked to do much about the Iranian programme, he said suggesting "The Obama administration should persuade New Delhi to pressure Tehran to remain engaged in international negotiations, in hopes of achieving a peaceful resolution."

Obama's nuclear security summit next year will be a golden opportunity for the United States and India to collaborate on universal nuclear security standards, Teliis said, "but New Delhi will need to overcome its misplaced anxieties about discussing its nuclear programme in public".

On climate change, Tellis said if Obama focuses on persuading Manmohan Singh to commit to a binding carbon dioxide emissions cap or a multilateral treaty, there will be little hope for cooperation on climate change.

Instead, the US and India should focus on practical initiatives to reduce emissions and improve efficiency in the realms of agriculture, transportation, and infrastructure, he said, suggesting Washington should give India access to priority technologies that could reduce its emissions growth.

India is not yet convinced that it can play an important role in combating climate change, and does not want to jeopardise its economic growth, Tellis said. "But economic progress and sustainable development are compatible, as little-noticed programmes by the Singh government have proven," he added.

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very difficult to get....china,japan will be against us
 
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it's not gonna happen in the near future,indian still don't have a clear political stance,i don't think P-5 really want a swing vote between US and russia,india should try to get more supports from developing countries first
 
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it's not gonna happen in the near future,indian still don't have a clear political stance,i don't think P-5 really want a swing vote between US and russia,india should try to get more supports from developing countries first

Here we agree. :cheers:
 
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china, i think had declared some time ago that it will support indian candidature............. but cant say theses days
 
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One proposed change is to admit more members: the candidates usually mentioned are Japan, Germany, India and Brazil (the G4 nations), and Nigeria. Britain, France and Russia support G4 membership in the UN. [7] Italy has always opposed this kind of reform, and has submitted since 1992 another proposal, together with other countries, based on the introduction of semi-permanent membership [8]; In addition South Korea opposed Japan; Pakistan opposes India; and Mexico and Argentina oppose Brazil, a Portuguese-speaking country in a largely Spanish-speaking Latin America. All these countries have traditionally grouped themselves in the so-called Coffee Club; officially Uniting for Consensus.
Most of the leading candidates for permanent membership are regularly elected onto the Security Council by their respective groups: Japan and Brazil were elected for nine two-year terms each, and Germany for three terms. India has been elected to the council six times in total, although the last of those was more than a decade ago, in 1991-92.

India has the world's second largest population and is the world's largest liberal democracy. It is also the world's twelfth largest economy and fourth largest in terms of purchasing power parity. Currently, India maintains the world's third largest active armed force. India is the third largest contributor of troops to United Nations Peacekeeping missions after Pakistan and Bangladesh.[22]
India's bid is unequivocally backed by permanent members France, Russia[23] and the United Kingdom[24]. The Chinese government in Beijing has recently advocated the candidacy.[25] Also, several countries like Chile,[26] Australia,[27] and the African Union[28] have openly supported India's candidacy. However, India's bid is roughly opposed to Pakistan, and to a lesser extent, by the Organisation of Islamic Conference.
Though initially opposed by the Chinese due to geo-political reasons (China being an ally of India's arch-rival Pakistan and the country also having fought a brief war with India in 1962), recent history has turned China's official support for India's candidature from negative to neutral to positive, in correlation with stronger economic ties.[citation needed] On 11 April 2005 China announced it would support India's bid for a permanent seat, but without a veto. Although the U.S. officially does not back India's bid — for various reasons, some of which remain decidedly unclear — it has privately been eager to work with India and to support the nation (which translates to not using a veto).[citation needed] However Indo-American relations are currently improving from the Cold War levels of de facto derision, marked by an alliance of mutuality, recently, in March 2006, by the US President George W. Bush making a visit to India, signing a civilian nuclear power sharing programme.
Taking into account its huge population and growing economic and political clout, India is a strong contender to clinch a permanent seat. Another factor which bolsters India's candidature is the fact it has participated in several of its activities, including UN operations in the Democratic Republic of Congo, Cyprus, Cambodia, Yemen, Somalia, Rwanda , Namibia, Sinai peninsula, among others.

source:wikipedia
 
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ok then. which country will openly oppose India's claim and who will support?
 
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Anyway, whats the use of a permanent seat without "veto" ?

It will be like a tiger without teeth.:smitten::pakistan::china:
 
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ok then. which country will openly oppose India's claim and who will support?

The five permanent members are USA, UK, China, Russia and France.

UK, France and Russia are in fully support to India. There are evident support from these countries. :yahoo:

As China is concerned, although it supports India at official level which is a good sign. However being close to Pakistan, it may be reluctant/hesitate voting for us. It might play some behind-the-curtain tricks too which it did during Indo-USA nuclear deal. But they might go for us as well. In short, their response is not predictable.

Finally, I must admit here is some tough job for India as USA is concerned. There is not much support from USA for India, even at offcial level. However the relation between India and USA is improving. Hopefully one day USA will support our claim.

As other members are considered, I must say India is doing pretty fine here. They have significant support there and should not face any major issues. However the reality is, only five "more powerful" permanent members will eventually decide what has to do with UNSC. :devil:

I think India is not going to get it soon. However they are on right track and keeping in mind our growing clout in every sphere, I am optimistic about getting a permanent seat.:cheers:
 
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the current unsc is formed from the result of ww2, which the five independent victorious powers, china, russia, usa , uk , france. even if the regimes have been changed in russia and china, the unsc seat still doesnt change, this implies that the p5 structure will never change dramatically (even if regime changes) unless another world war taking place, and winners regulate new rules. so do currently independent india wants to wage war with the victorious five??or let the natural course takes its path and not to demand too much???
 
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so do currently independent india wants to wage war with the victorious five??

What absurd comment is this???

This is not abt replacements...the debate is about increase in the permanent members from 5 to more...why would india want to wage war against any of them?
 
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