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India and Saudi Arabia relations

Let india talk. Saudi Arabia will never side with india over Pakistan. Saudi Arabia has its interests with Pakistan.

All Arabs know at the end of the day, india goes to bed with israel.

From what I can gather, its not just about Pakistan. But whatever agenda will be discussed about Pakistan, it would be to press concerns regarding terrorism emanating from Pakistani soil, the support and co-operation between Taliban and Al Qaeda and the need for sharing and coaxing Pakistan to act on these concerns.

Infact, China Iran and Saudi Arabia all converge around these interests with India. The Afghan Taliban and their close co-operation with Al Qaeda, anti-shia elements and Xinjiang separatists make them a liability.

The Cold war era that constrained Indian-Saudi ties is over and KSA can see the reality without looking at South Asia through Pakistan colored glasses. The last few years is just an example of this.
 
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Are you talking about the SA which imported our DF missiles in the 1980s? Are you talking about the SA which is trying to buy our UNSC vote in recent years?

indian friends:

in terms of international influence, india is 5 decades away from the current China. you don't have UNSC veto power, you do not have influence outside south asia.

:wave::wave: behivor youself, or we can capature your capital, sentence your PM and rename your country.

Can anyone please tell me the mods ban so many other members on this forum but not this person?
 
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From what I can gather, its not just about Pakistan. But whatever agenda will be discussed about Pakistan, it would be to press concerns regarding terrorism emanating from Pakistani soil, the support and co-operation between Taliban and Al Qaeda and the need for sharing and coaxing Pakistan to act on these concerns.

Infact, China Iran and Saudi Arabia all converge around these interests with India. The Afghan Taliban and their close co-operation with Al Qaeda, anti-shia elements and Xinjiang separatists make them a liability.

The Cold war era that constrained Indian-Saudi ties is over and KSA can see the reality without looking at South Asia through Pakistan colored glasses. The last few years is just an example of this.

You dont know what you're talking about and you dont know Saudi Arabia very well. Saudis dont see Afghan Taliban as a threat, they see them as an asset.

Development of bilateral relations
Saudi Arabia was one of the strongest supporters of Pakistan during Pakistan's wars with India, especially opposing the creation of Bangladesh from Pakistan's eastern wing in 1971 due to the fear of India's increasing role in the region and the propaganda from West Pakistan of what was happening in East Pakistan.[1] While it had supported Pakistan's stance on the Kashmir conflict, it has since endorsed the Indo-Pakistani peace process. With Pakistan, it provided extensive financial and political support to the Taliban and the Afghan mujahideen fighting the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan in the 1980s.[2][3][1] During the 1990-1991 Persian Gulf War, Pakistan sent troops to protect the Islamic holy sites in Saudi Arabia, but strains developed when some Pakistani politicians and Gen. Mirza Aslam Beg, the then-chief of staff of the Pakistani army openly expressed support for Saddam Hussein's regime in Iraq and its invasion of Kuwait.[4] Along with the United Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia and Pakistan were the only states to recognise Taliban rule in Afghanistan. In May 1998, before Pakistan's Chagai-I nuclear tests, Saudi Arabia promised to supply 50,000 barrels per day of free oil to help Pakistan cope with likely economic sanctions in the aftermath.[3]

Military cooperation
Pakistan maintains close military ties with Saudi Arabia, providing extensive support, arms and training for the Military of Saudi Arabia.[3] Pilots of the Pakistan Air Force flew aircraft of the Royal Saudi Air Force to repel an incursion from South Yemen in 1969. In the 1970s and 1980s, approximately 15,000 Pakistani soldiers were stationed in the kingdom.[3] Saudi Arabia has negotiated the purchase of Pakistani ballistic missiles capable of carrying nuclear warheads.[3] It is also speculated that Saudi Arabia secretly funded Pakistan's nuclear programme and seeks to purchase atomic weapons from Pakistan to enable it to counteract possible threats from arsenals of the weapons of mass destruction possessed by Iran, Iraq and Israel.[5][6][7] Both nations have received high-level delegations of scientists, government and military experts seeking to study the development of a nuclear programme.[5][8][3]

Cultural and commercial ties
Saudi Arabia has also provided extensive religious and educational aid to Pakistan, being a major contributor to the construction of mosques and madrassas (religious schools) across Pakistan, the Faisal Mosque (dedicated to King Faisal of Saudi Arabia) in Islamabad, the capital of Pakistan. The major Pakistani city of Lyallpur was also renamed Faisalabad in honour of King Faisal in 1977. Saudi Arabia remains a major destination for immigration amongst Pakistanis, the number of whom living in Saudi Arabia stands between 900,000 and 1 million.[9][10] Saudi Arabia was a major supporter of the "Islamisation" programme of the military ruler Gen. Zia-ul-Haq in the 1970s. In 2006, King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia was awarded the Nishan-e-Pakistan, the highest civilian decoration of Pakistan.[11]

Saudi Arabia is the largest source of petroleum for Pakistan.[12] It also supplies extensive financial aid to Pakistan and remittance from Pakistani migrants to Saudi Arabia is also a major source of foreign currency.[13] In recent years, both countries have exchanged high-level delegations and developed plans to expand bilateral cooperation in trade, education, real estate, tourism, information technology, communications and agriculture.[10][14] Saudi Arabia is aiding the development of trade relations with Pakistan through the Gulf Cooperation Council, with which Pakistan is negotiating a free trade agreement; the volume of trade between Pakistan and GCC member states in 2006 stood at USD 11 billion.[14][13]

Pakistan ? Saudi Arabia relations - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Other than trade, you indians will get no where with Saudi Arabia. Pakistan shares almost the same interest as Saudi Arabia.

:pakistan:
 
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You dont know what you're talking about and you dont know Saudi Arabia very well. Saudis dont see Afghan Taliban as a threat, they see them as an asset.

Development of bilateral relations
Saudi Arabia was one of the strongest supporters of Pakistan during Pakistan's wars with India, especially opposing the creation of Bangladesh from Pakistan's eastern wing in 1971 due to the fear of India's increasing role in the region and the propaganda from West Pakistan of what was happening in East Pakistan.[1] While it had supported Pakistan's stance on the Kashmir conflict, it has since endorsed the Indo-Pakistani peace process. With Pakistan, it provided extensive financial and political support to the Taliban and the Afghan mujahideen fighting the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan in the 1980s.[2][3][1] During the 1990-1991 Persian Gulf War, Pakistan sent troops to protect the Islamic holy sites in Saudi Arabia, but strains developed when some Pakistani politicians and Gen. Mirza Aslam Beg, the then-chief of staff of the Pakistani army openly expressed support for Saddam Hussein's regime in Iraq and its invasion of Kuwait.[4] Along with the United Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia and Pakistan were the only states to recognise Taliban rule in Afghanistan. In May 1998, before Pakistan's Chagai-I nuclear tests, Saudi Arabia promised to supply 50,000 barrels per day of free oil to help Pakistan cope with likely economic sanctions in the aftermath.[3]

Military cooperation
Pakistan maintains close military ties with Saudi Arabia, providing extensive support, arms and training for the Military of Saudi Arabia.[3] Pilots of the Pakistan Air Force flew aircraft of the Royal Saudi Air Force to repel an incursion from South Yemen in 1969. In the 1970s and 1980s, approximately 15,000 Pakistani soldiers were stationed in the kingdom.[3] Saudi Arabia has negotiated the purchase of Pakistani ballistic missiles capable of carrying nuclear warheads.[3] It is also speculated that Saudi Arabia secretly funded Pakistan's nuclear programme and seeks to purchase atomic weapons from Pakistan to enable it to counteract possible threats from arsenals of the weapons of mass destruction possessed by Iran, Iraq and Israel.[5][6][7] Both nations have received high-level delegations of scientists, government and military experts seeking to study the development of a nuclear programme.[5][8][3]

Cultural and commercial ties
Saudi Arabia has also provided extensive religious and educational aid to Pakistan, being a major contributor to the construction of mosques and madrassas (religious schools) across Pakistan, the Faisal Mosque (dedicated to King Faisal of Saudi Arabia) in Islamabad, the capital of Pakistan. The major Pakistani city of Lyallpur was also renamed Faisalabad in honour of King Faisal in 1977. Saudi Arabia remains a major destination for immigration amongst Pakistanis, the number of whom living in Saudi Arabia stands between 900,000 and 1 million.[9][10] Saudi Arabia was a major supporter of the "Islamisation" programme of the military ruler Gen. Zia-ul-Haq in the 1970s. In 2006, King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia was awarded the Nishan-e-Pakistan, the highest civilian decoration of Pakistan.[11]

Saudi Arabia is the largest source of petroleum for Pakistan.[12] It also supplies extensive financial aid to Pakistan and remittance from Pakistani migrants to Saudi Arabia is also a major source of foreign currency.[13] In recent years, both countries have exchanged high-level delegations and developed plans to expand bilateral cooperation in trade, education, real estate, tourism, information technology, communications and agriculture.[10][14] Saudi Arabia is aiding the development of trade relations with Pakistan through the Gulf Cooperation Council, with which Pakistan is negotiating a free trade agreement; the volume of trade between Pakistan and GCC member states in 2006 stood at USD 11 billion.[14][13]

Pakistan ? Saudi Arabia relations - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Other than trade, you indians will get no where with Saudi Arabia. Pakistan shares almost the same interest as Saudi Arabia.

:pakistan:

Wikipedia ki puri dukaan khol di.

Couldn't you just post the link rather than copy-pasting the entire article?

Anyways, India primarily has economic interests with Saudi Arabia. It does not desire for any other form of cooperation with the Saudis apart from occasional security related intelligence sharing.

So yeah, congrats to you and your country's deep strategic relations with Saudi Arabia.
 
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I thought this thread is something related to Saudi and India..... I dont find any reason y these people r so envy of relations? About this Chinese guy.....I think he doesnt deserve to be replied....
 
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@Omar1984

And what about the facts I mentioned about Iran and China? Iran has publically stated its position on the Taliban issue. And a recent article in Asia Times and the speech by the Chinese representative in London Conference made it clear where the Chinese stand on this matter.

Now coming back to the Saudis. You are completely wrong to think AT as a strategic asset of Pakistan let alone Saudi Arabia. The recent arrests of AT leaders IN Pakistan shows that at least in the security establishment there is realization around this.

Even though SA was one of the three countries to recognize the Taliban govt. (on Pakistan's insistence), they had withdrawn their ambassador in protest in 98 when Mulla Omar had refused to extradite Bin Laden and had insulted the Saudi intelligence chief at that time.

What India will stress --and many analysts point to this-- is that AT and AQ -- which is the real threat to Saudi Arabia -- are now collaborating so closely that they are indistinguishable from each other. Check out these news reports from a Pakistani journalist.

Cross-border militants strike back


Taliban's mood swings against talks


While Iran adamant about no Taliban being involved in the Afghan govt. India will most likely stress to Saudi Arabia, that it should use its clout to make sure that only those Taliban are brought to the negotiating table who will abjure violence in other countries and work under the Aghan constitution.
 
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Are you talking about the SA which imported our DF missiles in the 1980s? Are you talking about the SA which is trying to buy our UNSC vote in recent years?

indian friends:

in terms of international influence, india is 5 decades away from the current China. you don't have UNSC veto power, you do not have influence outside south asia.

:wave::wave: behivor youself, or we can capature your capital, sentence your PM and rename your country.

sir please inform me when this will happen.
should i change my name to some chin or wang
 
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c

You dont know what you're talking about and you dont know Saudi Arabia very well. Saudis dont see Afghan Taliban as a threat, they see them as an asset.

Development of bilateral relations
Saudi Arabia was one of the strongest supporters of Pakistan during Pakistan's wars with India, especially opposing the creation of Bangladesh from Pakistan's eastern wing in 1971 due to the fear of India's increasing role in the region and the propaganda from West Pakistan of what was happening in East Pakistan.[1] While it had supported Pakistan's stance on the Kashmir conflict, it has since endorsed the Indo-Pakistani peace process. With Pakistan, it provided extensive financial and political support to the Taliban and the Afghan mujahideen fighting the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan in the 1980s.[2][3][1] During the 1990-1991 Persian Gulf War, Pakistan sent troops to protect the Islamic holy sites in Saudi Arabia, but strains developed when some Pakistani politicians and Gen. Mirza Aslam Beg, the then-chief of staff of the Pakistani army openly expressed support for Saddam Hussein's regime in Iraq and its invasion of Kuwait.[4] Along with the United Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia and Pakistan were the only states to recognise Taliban rule in Afghanistan. In May 1998, before Pakistan's Chagai-I nuclear tests, Saudi Arabia promised to supply 50,000 barrels per day of free oil to help Pakistan cope with likely economic sanctions in the aftermath.[3]

Military cooperation
Pakistan maintains close military ties with Saudi Arabia, providing extensive support, arms and training for the Military of Saudi Arabia.[3] Pilots of the Pakistan Air Force flew aircraft of the Royal Saudi Air Force to repel an incursion from South Yemen in 1969. In the 1970s and 1980s, approximately 15,000 Pakistani soldiers were stationed in the kingdom.[3] Saudi Arabia has negotiated the purchase of Pakistani ballistic missiles capable of carrying nuclear warheads.[3] It is also speculated that Saudi Arabia secretly funded Pakistan's nuclear programme and seeks to purchase atomic weapons from Pakistan to enable it to counteract possible threats from arsenals of the weapons of mass destruction possessed by Iran, Iraq and Israel.[5][6][7] Both nations have received high-level delegations of scientists, government and military experts seeking to study the development of a nuclear programme.[5][8][3]

Cultural and commercial ties
Saudi Arabia has also provided extensive religious and educational aid to Pakistan, being a major contributor to the construction of mosques and madrassas (religious schools) across Pakistan, the Faisal Mosque (dedicated to King Faisal of Saudi Arabia) in Islamabad, the capital of Pakistan. The major Pakistani city of Lyallpur was also renamed Faisalabad in honour of King Faisal in 1977. Saudi Arabia remains a major destination for immigration amongst Pakistanis, the number of whom living in Saudi Arabia stands between 900,000 and 1 million.[9][10] Saudi Arabia was a major supporter of the "Islamisation" programme of the military ruler Gen. Zia-ul-Haq in the 1970s. In 2006, King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia was awarded the Nishan-e-Pakistan, the highest civilian decoration of Pakistan.[11]

Saudi Arabia is the largest source of petroleum for Pakistan.[12] It also supplies extensive financial aid to Pakistan and remittance from Pakistani migrants to Saudi Arabia is also a major source of foreign currency.[13] In recent years, both countries have exchanged high-level delegations and developed plans to expand bilateral cooperation in trade, education, real estate, tourism, information technology, communications and agriculture.[10][14] Saudi Arabia is aiding the development of trade relations with Pakistan through the Gulf Cooperation Council, with which Pakistan is negotiating a free trade agreement; the volume of trade between Pakistan and GCC member states in 2006 stood at USD 11 billion.[14][13]

Pakistan ? Saudi Arabia relations - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Other than trade, you indians will get no where with Saudi Arabia. Pakistan shares almost the same interest as Saudi Arabia.

:pakistan:

Why are you worried about Indians Relations with Saudi.
USA was one of Strongest supporter of Pakistan during India-Pak war in 1971
That doesn't mean India cannot have good relations with Saudi
 
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PM in Saudi Arabia: King Abdullah's brother receives him at airport

RIYADH: Setting aside protocol, King Abdullah's brother and defence minister Crown Prince Sultan bin Abdul Aziz and the entire Saudi cabinet on Saturday received Prime Minister Manmohan Singh when he arrived in Riyadh on a three- day visit.

Singh, who was accorded a red carpet welcome, was received by Abdulaziz, also the first deputy Prime Minister and civil aviation minister, at the King Khalid International Airport.

Interior minister and second deputy prime minister second Crown Prince Naif Bin Abdul Aziz and Governor of Riydah Prince Salman bin Abdul Aziz also received Singh, who is the first Indian Prime Minister to visit Saudi Arabia in 28 years.

The entire Saudi cabinet was present at the airport to receive the Indian Prime Minister.

Singh will be accorded a formal reception by King Abdullah on Sunday at the Al Rawdah Palace, where the two leaders will hold talks and sign bilateral agreements.

Oil and mineral resources minister Alial Naimi, foreign minister Prince Saud Al Faisal and commerce and industries minister Abdulla Zainal Ali Reza will call on the Prime Minister on Sunday and hold discussions.

Singh will also address Saudi Chambers of Commerce and Industry.



There are many first:


1. 3 crown prince of Saudi Arabia, 3 Brother of Saudi Arabia's King, Entire Cabinet of Saudi Arabia was there to welcome and receive the Indian Prime Minister at airport.


2. Wife of Saudi Arab's king will host a separate dinner for Indian Prime Minister's wife giving it personal touch.


3. The way from airport to hotel 40 kms was decorated with Indian Flags and Saudi Flags, never seen before for anyone.


4. Saudi Arabia also given honor to Indian PM by Inviting him to address Shoura Council.
 
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Something major is happening in this touch ... as the Arabs don't bring their ladies to dinner table etc

I wonder ... if there is something going on ... hmmmm:whistle::blink:
:coffee:
 
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I think India and Saudi Arab will talk about Afghanistan too and Indian role in Afghanistan.
Some one from Pakistan should go to Iran and sign the pile line deal for Pakistan's need of energy and counter Saudi Love for India.

The pipline deal is already signed and would start soon.

As far Saudis yes indeed Indian media had highlighted that Indian PM will talk to them about some possible role in Afghanistan.

Saudis are supporting talks in Afghanistan and hence India will try to seek some role.
 
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Can anyone please tell me the mods ban so many other members on this forum but not this person?

He was banned many times. He is not a troll rather a good debater its another matter that Indians provok him in many other threads. So dont complaint of being a victim dear.
 
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