India and Russia to Jointly Set Up $300 Million Logistics Hub for Su30MKI

[Kraitcorp]

A formal agreement between India and Russia is likely to be signed by October this year.

India to Upgrade Russian-Made Su-30 Fighter Jets Amid Delay in Rafale Deal New Delhi (Sputnik) – India, with the help of Russia, plans to set up a logistics hub for its most lethal combat aircraft, the Su-30MKI, at the facilities of Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL) in Bangalore. Sources from India's Ministry of Defense told Sputnik, "we are trying to ensure the maximum operational availability of Su-30MKI fighters at any given time. We have improved the serviceability of the aircraft from 46% to more than 60%. Notwithstanding, the Indian Air Force (IAF) has also finalized long term repair agreement with Russian original equipment manufacturers to improve the availability of aircraft for operational use but the long process of getting spare parts delivered is negatively impacting the operational availability of the aircraft….A spare parts logistics center will solve this problem." Currently, it takes up to 18 months to deliver spare parts to India from Russia, mainly due to cumbersome bureaucratic process, customs, bank guarantees, etc. Air Marshal P. P. Khandekar, Air Officer-in-Charge for Maintenance at Air HQ IAF says, "For a small fleet, there is no need to set up infrastructure in the country. Our indigenous infrastructure development requirement is mainly for when the fleet is large." Currently the Indian Air Force has more than 200 Su 30 MKI in its fleet and is expected to receive the remaining fleet by 2019. India contracted for the delivery of 272 Su 30 MKI with Russia.

http://sputniknews.com/business/20160830/1044781959/russia-india-su30mki.html

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[PARIKRAMA]

this is the game changer proposition.
In redflag we were for at 100% for multiple weeks.
If we get the spares and repair agreements properly and invest a good descent amount as required by fleet management and forecast based on actual number of spares needed as per planes+flight hours, we should be in a position to raise the availability at 75% and above. So far its touching 70% but it looks a bit stretched as per what sources said.

Owing to the fact that almost 85+ more Su 30MKIs are yet to come onboard, such a small gap of attaining just over 70% will fall back surely again to early 60s %. Thus it was critical for this deal to go through.

Our efforts of forecasting based on actual usage and flight hours will give a more proper realistic estimate and a localisation of such spares will bring down the TAT dramatically.

Consider the challenges
Russian OEMs - 18 months for spares
Indian OEMs - close to 5-6 months or 1/3rd of the time
Forecast based modelling, advance store management and a spares management will see this issue not create any issues at all.

The idea is very simple. out of 312 we wanted around 240-250 jets to be available. At present with this localisation we will touch 234 but over time the first benchmark will be 240 jets and second 250 jets. Anything that makes 15 squadrons available is being targeted.

@Abingdonboy @anant_s @Ankit Kumar 002
This is a good development. Sadly its coming very late. We should have done this long long back.. but still finally something logical.

 

[SR-91]

this is the game changer proposition.
In redflag we were for at 100% for multiple weeks.
If we get the spares and repair agreements properly and invest a good descent amount as required by fleet management and forecast based on actual number of spares needed as per planes+flight hours, we should be in a position to raise the availability at 75% and above. So far its touching 70% but it looks a bit stretched as per what sources said.

Owing to the fact that almost 85+ more Su 30MKIs are yet to come onboard, such a small gap of attaining just over 70% will fall back surely again to early 60s %. Thus it was critical for this deal to go through.

Our efforts of forecasting based on actual usage and flight hours will give a more proper realistic estimate and a localisation of such spares will bring down the TAT dramatically.

Consider the challenges
Russian OEMs - 18 months for spares
Indian OEMs - close to 5-6 months or 1/3rd of the time
Forecast based modelling, advance store management and a spares management will see this issue not create any issues at all.

The idea is very simple. out of 312 we wanted around 240-250 jets to be available. At present with this localisation we will touch 234 but over time the first benchmark will be 240 jets and second 250 jets. Anything that makes 15 squadrons available is being targeted.

@Abingdonboy @anant_s @Ankit Kumar 002
This is a good development. Sadly its coming very late. We should have done this long long back.. but still finally something logical.

I see u quoted "312" jets, so we will get 272+40. Is it going to SFC?

 

[Ankit Kumar 002]

@PARIKRAMA it has a export potential too. All the nations which use flankers from Irkut have the same problem(spares ). A good market for us. Further there are atleast 2 nations who want their KNAPO built aircraft to be modernised by Irkut to the MKI type standards , we can win customers there too.

 

[PARIKRAMA]

I see u quoted "312" jets, so we will get 272+40. Is it going to SFC?

undefined but probably yes due to Brahmos Standoff being used. But thats not all. The present assessment as per some sources indicate a total of around 48-50 aircrafts used for SFC. This includes 32 Mirage 2000H and 16 Jaguar IS/IB and 2 Su30 MKI. This structure would soon change to 40 odd Su30 MKI and 36 odd Rafales.

It was pointed that combat radius of Mirages and Jaguars with the N Bombs and tanks is 1850 and 1600 km respectively.

The MKIs will initially use Brahmos A and later other versions (NG) will be used by Rafales . OTOH Rafales will be used for initially Gravity Bombs and later more stand off ALCMS like Brahmos NG, Nirbhay ALCM etc.

@PARIKRAMA it has a export potential too. All the nations which use flankers from Irkut have the same problem(spares ). A good market for us. Further there are atleast 2 nations who want their KNAPO built aircraft to be modernised by Irkut to the MKI type standards , we can win customers there too.

Of course flankers around us are there who can take benefit from this arrangement. But important thing first is to get benefit ourselves. Bcz we need them available and the biggest and most important thing is to enable this ecosystem for our future PAKFA/FGFA project bcz the downtime of 5th Gen aircraft is much more. So owing to spares the fleet availability will be terrible unless we make changes now itself.

 

[Agent_47]

The idea is very simple. out of 312 we wanted around 240-250 jets to be available. At present with this localisation we will touch 234 but over time the first benchmark will be 240 jets and second 250 jets. Anything that makes 15 squadrons available is being targeted.

Our air chief during his last press meet said total MKI sqd will be 13, down from 15 earlier intent. This might be an indication of more spare ACs per sqd to keep availability high or 40 going to SFC. Later is more probable since HAL chief's last month statement of modifying 40 MKIs to carry brahmos. Either way i don't see more orders for MKI.