India and Russia should speed up PAK-FA

[baker]

Judging from this forum. Its clear that the Indians and the Chinese in here see each other as the primary enemy for their country.

dont think so.... it is the only media that hypes the tension between india and china... ,

sadly but need to admit many of our media is biased towards US...

 

[Paan Singh]

Judging from this forum. Its clear that the Indians and the Chinese in here see each other as the primary enemy for their country.

we are not enemy but we love to troll about each other

 

[faithfulguy]

dont think so.... it is the only media that hypes the tension between india and china... ,

sadly but need to admit many of our media is biased towards US...

If I do not know anything about history and current affairs and judge the attitute of the people from this forum. I would easily come to hte conclusion that Indians and Chinese clearly regard each other as their primaryt enemy. The tone is much more severe than how it is in reality.

 

[baker]

If I do not know anything about history and current affairs and judge the attitute of the people from this forum. I would easily come to hte conclusion that Indians and Chinese clearly regard each other as their primaryt enemy. The tone is much more severe than how it is in reality.

both china and india has the population 2.5billion... and by the comments from the some 20-30 members from the forum , you are going to conclude we are considering as the primary enemies...

but ofcourse we are competing each other in all sectors...

 

[Dash]

We cant actually debate and conclude that RAAD and Babur cant peenetrate Indian airspace.

So just leave it.....

 

[satishkumarcsc]

RUSSIAN FEDERATION

FEDERAL SERVICE
FOR INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY,
PATENTS AND TRADEMARKS (19) RU (11) 2008122433 (13) A
(51) of the IPC
F02K1/12 (2006.01)
(12) APPLICATION FOR INVENTION
According to the state office 02/09/2010: A Survey completed
(21), (22) Application: 2008122433/06, 05.06.2008

(43) Date of publication of application: 10.12.2009

Address for correspondence:
129301, Moscow, st. Kasatkin, 13, SEC them. A. Cradles NPO Saturn, SPiIS

(71) Applicant (s):
Open Joint Stock Company "Scientific-Production Association" Saturn "(" NPO "Saturn") (RU)

(72) Author (s):
Marchukov Eugene Yuvenalievich (RU),
Privalov, Vitaly Nikolaevich (RU),
Chepkin Viktor Mikhailovich (RU)

(54) flat nozzle turbo-jet engine

(57) Abstract:
Flat nozzle turbofan engine comprising a body, the upper and lower rotary wing, fixed side walls and a power cylinder with one end attached to the hull and the other connected to the upper sash by means of a rotary swing frame with a triangular cross section, one surface of which, facing the flowing part of the nozzle is made cylindrical, characterized in that it is equipped with additional power cylinder with one end attached to the sidewall and the other is connected with the lower downstream end of the upper sash, with the axis of rotation of the frame is rigidly attached to the side walls of the nozzle.
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RUSSIAN FEDERATION

FEDERAL SERVICE
FOR INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY,
PATENTS AND TRADEMARKS (19) RU (11) 2383760 (13) C1
(51) of the IPC
F02K1/12 (2006.01)
(12) ABSTRACT OF INVENTION
Status: As of 30.08.2010 - is valid
(21), (22) Application: 2008122433/06, 05.06.2008

(24) Date of the origin of the term of the patent:
05.06.2008

(46) Published: 10/03/2010

(56) List of documents cited in the report
search: US 4641782 A, 10.02.1987. EP 0748932 A1, 18.12.1996. US 6910328 B1, 28.06.2005. US 6000635 A, 14.12.1999. RU 2193680 C2, 27.11.2002. RU 2232281 C1, 10.07.2004.

Address for correspondence:
129301, Moscow, st. Kasatkin, 13, SEC them. A. Cradles NPO Saturn, SPiIS

(72) Author (s):
Marchukov Eugene Yuvenalievich (RU),
Privalov, Vitaly Nikolaevich (RU),
Chepkin Viktor Mikhailovich (RU)

(73) patent (s):
Open Joint Stock Company "Scientific-Production Association" Saturn "(" NPO "Saturn") (RU)

(54) flat nozzle turbo-jet engine

(57) Abstract:
The invention relates to aircraft engine development, namely the design of nozzles turbojet engines. Flat nozzle includes a housing, upper and lower rotary wing, fixed side panels, power cylinder, the additional power cylinder and the rotary frame. One end of the power cylinder is attached to the hull and the other connected to the upper sash by turning the rotary frame. Swing frame is made with a triangular cross section. The surface of the rotating frame, facing the flow of the nozzle is made cylindrical. Additional power cylinder with one end attached to the sidewall, and others connected with the lower downstream end of the upper sash. The axis of rotation of the frame is rigidly attached to the side walls of the nozzle. The invention makes it possible to change the thrust vector engine, and also to reduce the aerodynamic losses in the flow around the outer and inner surface of the nozzle and increase the engine thrust.
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RUSSIAN FEDERATION

FEDERAL SERVICE
FOR INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY,
PATENTS AND TRADEMARKS (19) RU (11) 2374477 (13) C1
(51) of the IPC
F02K1/12 (2006.01)
F02K1/00 (2006.01)
(12) ABSTRACT OF INVENTION
Status: As of 30.08.2010 - is valid
(21), (22) Application: 2008121692/06, 30.05.2008

(24) Date of the origin of the term of the patent:
30.05.2008

(46) Published: 27/11/2009

(56) List of documents cited in the report
search: US 4392615 A, 12.07.1983. FR 2608680 A1, 24.06.1988. US 4361281 A, 30.11.1982. US 5388765 A, 14.02.1995. RU 2232281 C1, 10.07.2004. RU 2153591 C2, 27.07.2000. RU 2082649 C1, 27.06.1997.

Address for correspondence:
129301, Moscow, st. Kasatkin, 13, SEC them. A. Cradles NPO Saturn, SPiIS

(72) Author (s):
Marchukov Eugene Yuvenalievich (RU),
Privalov, Vitaly Nikolaevich (RU),
Chepkin Viktor Mikhailovich (RU)

(73) patent (s):
Open Joint Stock Company "Scientific-Production Association" Saturn "(" NPO "Saturn") (RU)
(54) flat nozzle turbo-jet engine

(57) Abstract:
The invention relates to aircraft engine development, namely the design of nozzles turbojet engines. Flat nozzle turbofan engine contains two fixed side walls and mounted between the upper and lower movable sash. In each of the movable sash is mounted rod. At the ends of the rod are fixed rollers in contact with the outer surfaces of the side walls of their output ends. The invention makes it possible to prevent deformation of the side walls and thus increase the share of their work.

 

[satishkumarcsc]

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[illuminatidinesh]

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What is this buddy?

 

[satishkumarcsc]

What is this buddy?

That is the design of the AL 41 F flat nozzle engine. It is a link...click on it.

 

[typhoon77]

That is the design of the AL 41 F flat nozzle engine. It is a link...click on it.

PAK-FA won't be fitted with those engines though or even a derivative of them.

Link to dismissed finished PAK-FA design w/ 2-D flat nozzles. It won't look like this in the end, pity it looked great.
http://www.youtube.com/v/dWkQRPzYrlQ&hl=en_US&feature=player_embedded&version=3

 

[satishkumarcsc]

PAK-FA won't be fitted with those engines though or even a derivative of them.

Link to dismissed finished PAK-FA design w/ 2-D flat nozzles. It won't look like this in the end, pity it looked great.
http://www.youtube.com/v/dWkQRPzYrlQ&hl=en_US&feature=player_embedded&version=3

Can you give me the link where it told that it will not be used?

 

[typhoon77]

Can you give me the link where it told that it will not be used?

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Here's the link to the patent for the nozzles. The video shows what it would look like integrated into the plane.
Its pretty obvious that it won't be used the patent isn't classified and is available through open sources. The biggest clue is that its supposed to be fitted on a different engine the AL-41 which Pak-Fa won't use.
I would assume that eventually the rear hemisphere of the Pak-fa would look very similar to whats shown in the video. The nozzles might be a little different and the engine used would be smaller but the overall shape would be similar.

 

[MINK]

dont think so.... it is the only media that hypes the tension between india and china... ,

sadly but need to admit many of our media is biased towards US...

Have you forgotten 1962 India-China war??? It was China that invaded India whiout any provocation. It is China that illegaly occupied 38000sq km in Aksai Chin of Indian teritory. It is China that is claiming 90000sq km of Arunachal Pradesh!!! Our media is not biased towards US! This is trruth and it's always hard to swallow!

 

[IndianArmy]

I don't think so.

I think India certainly has negative intentions towards China, as demonstrated by the fact that they have been hosting our largest separatist group for well over half a century.

However, I don't think many people believe that India currently has the "capability" to successfully attack us over the rough terrain of the Himalayas. It serves as a natural and formidable barrier.

Silly Indeed....

 

[DV RULES]

I don’t think that this project will be ready even in 2025, looking over back military contracts with Russia, talks are only talks but any positive news can’t be expected.