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GDP per capita is not a measure of poverty.

Bangladesh's poverty rate is 84.30%
India's poverty rate is 28%
Pakistan's poverty rate is 24.3%

These are simple questions google can answer. Pakistani people still live better lives than the rest and are far richer or average, like it or not.
 
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It is a piece of great news. Our PDF brats from Bangladesh should start dancing on the streets.

A day is coming when BD will surpass the joint economy of Pakistan and India.

By the way, when BD is going to build its Teesta project with its own money, technology, and manpower? India is below BD, but India has built Farakka and 52 other barrages around BD with its own technology and money.

But here BD is bragging but has asked China to provide funds and technology to help build the Teesta Project.

Our people should know where BD really stands comparing even to India or Pakistan. Bloody idiotic thread!!! BD stands at the lowest rung of countries in every field except population. Our people excel in producing many children, that is all.

Dont forget we also seem to produce high quality bi-polar self hating contrarians....
GDP per capita is not a measure of poverty.

Bangladesh's poverty rate is 84.30%
India's poverty rate is 28%
Pakistan's poverty rate is 24.3%

These are simple questions google can answer. Pakistani people still live better lives than the rest and are far richer or average, like it or not.


Source please... height of delusion....
 
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GDP per capita is not a measure of poverty.

Bangladesh's poverty rate is 84.30%
India's poverty rate is 28%
Pakistan's poverty rate is 24.3%

These are simple questions google can answer. Pakistani people still live better lives than the rest and are far richer or average, like it or not.
B is having excelling growth with upward momentum. this is a good thing.
 
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What kind of richer country is Bangladesh that they have 10 times less car sales than poorer Pakistan?

While 2/3rd of the country is drowned under the water for half of the year due to flooding.
 
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Ok you want to compare motorcycle sales?


In 2019 549,000 motorcycles were sold in Bangladesh while more bikes are sold in just one quarter in Pakistan.

The same reason, price. Pakistan has been manufacturing motorcycles for some time now unlike Bangladesh which has only started recently. There were also high duties on motorcycles until recently.

In contrast, Bangladesh has an efficient local electronics manufacturing industry, Pakistan doesn't. And that's why only 1.6 million refrigerators are sold in Pakistan annually compared to 3.2 million units for Bangladesh.


 
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Pakistan is really doing okay, and you only get to here the negative things about it , and don’t go by surveys you are getting comparing with us as both countries are world apart on every thing.
 
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Vietnam spinning capability is increasing (at 7.2 Million spindles currently) because labor rate for spinning operations in China is a lot higher than theirs, so Vietnam exports a lot of yarn of various types to China.

Bangladesh is unlucky because we have a similarly poor (or rather more poor now) country next door, where spinning costs are similar or even lower than ours. So we end up importing yarn from India (mostly yarn for weaving, not knitting) instead of producing it ourselves for our weaving or knitting industries.

The spinning industry of Bangladesh with 12.50 million spindles (marginally higher capacity than both Pakistan and Indonesia) is capable of meeting 95 per cent of the yarn demand of the garment sector. Specialized Wovens, sweaters and home textiles are mostly based on imported fabrics and yarns, and the spinning industry can meet 40 per cent of their yarn requirements. At present, 424 spinning mills are operational and the number of spinning mills and spindle capacity is increasing every year with the time period.

As befits recent investments, spinning sector in Bangladesh uses reliable, modern and high quality carding/spinning equipment from the likes of
Trützschler and Rieter in Germany.

Bangladesh’s knit and denim garment sector has already developed a very strong backward linkage industry — spinning-knitting/weaving-dyeing and finishing — which are mostly made with cotton and cotton blends of different kinds.

Last year Bangladesh, the biggest importer of cotton in the world, imported 7.20 million bales of cotton. Spinning is a power hungry industry that mostly depends on captive gas generators.

Here are some other stats for other countries, yarn demand goes down, then spinning industry can actually contract (if it is cheaper to import yarn, than making yarn within the country).
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Vietnam, India and Pakistan remain major suppliers for imported cotton yarn in China year to date, and other markets like Indonesia, Uzbekistan and Malaysia also occupy certain share. It is of great importance to grasp the spinning capacity in these nations to operate more smoothly.

1. Vietnam was the biggest supplier for imported cotton yarn in China year to date, with spinning capacity at around 7.20 million spindles, and capacity of Chinese companies that invested there including Texhong, Bros Eastern, Huafu and Luthai possessed around 2.30 million spindles. Exports of Vietnamese cotton yarn from Chinese companies investing there shared more than 50% of its total export to China. Production cost of cotton yarn in Vietnam is more competitive than that in China.

2. Spinning capacity totaled around 52 million spindles in India by now, and exports of Indian cotton yarn to China plunged this year when cotton yarn price lacked advantage with high cotton price. Impacted by new GST and growing demand resulting from rapid development of economy, Indian cotton yarn price is supposed to be supported by local demand, and export price may lack competitiveness.

3. Spinning capacity amounted to around 12 million spindles in Pakistan, but exports of Pakistani cotton yarn to China kept decreasing year by year. Cotton quality is low in Pakistan, available for spinning low-count siro-spun cotton yarn, but partial demand for low-count siro-spun cotton yarn has been replaced by open-end ones. Besides, Pakistan does not have bullish export incentives, but Sino-Pakistan foreign trade is expected to be boosted by the Belt and Road. If Chinese buyers’ demand for low-count siro-spun cotton yarn improves, Pakistani cotton yarn may regain competitiveness by that time.

4. Spinning capacity totaled around 10 million spindles in Indonesia and exports of Indonesian cotton yarn to China stabilized at around 100kt per year in recent years. Cotton that used to produce cotton yarn in Indonesia has high quality, and price of Indonesian cotton yarn is slanting high, mainly contamination free. Chinese buyers became more sensitive to price with recently decreasing yarn price. It was learned that more than 20 spinning mills have been shut down in Indonesia this year.

Cotton supply in Pakistan and India is more stable than that in Vietnam and Indonesia as Pakistan and India are major cotton growers. Actually, imports of cotton yarn from Pakistan, India, Vietnam and Indonesia possess big share in China, having limited further upward potential.

5. Some Chinese textile mills like LT Textile International and Zhongtai New Silk Road have invested in Uzbekistan and Tajikistan. LT Textile International’s first phase project covering 0.12 million spindles has started operation in Uzbekistan, and is scheduled to reach 0.48 million spindles in the future. Zhongtai’s industrial park in Tajikistan will have 0.11 million spindles of capacity after established and cover cotton upstream and downstream sectors. Currently, Uzbekistan has around 137 spinning mills with capacity around 2 million spindles, and spinners are mainly small-sized ones with 5,000-20,000 spindles, having big developing potential.

6. Some Chinese companies also come to Malaysia for investment, but the investment scale is small, only for self-consumption, not for external sales. Shandong D&Y is a big Chinese company that has invested in Malaysia, with spinning capacity to reach 0.25 million spindles by the end of 2017 and to be 0.5 million spindles in the future, which will be the biggest spinning mill in Malaysia. Imports of Malaysian cotton yarn to China also deserve anticipating.

7. In China, spinning capacity was expected to be around 113 million spindles by the end of 2016. Capacity growth in China in recent years is mainly contributed by Xinjiang. Based on related report, current spinning capacity in Xinjiang is around 13.60 million spindles, which was to rise to 20 million spindles by 2020. Textile capacity expansion in Xinjiang is faster than planned earlier .
Oh, I thought BD is producing all its yarns/ threads and fabrics in its own factories. I am surprised and shocked to read through your post.

BD should import more cotton from Uzbekistan, Pakistan, and western African countries and do all these works within its boundary. African cotton is long-fibered and soft as well. There were talks with the African Ambassadors. They said it would take three months to reach their cotton to the Ports because of weak infrastructures.

BD offered to give them stockyard in Ctg. so that cotton is stocked there and our buyers can purchase it with no loss of time. But, somehow, our internal politics may have derailed the important project.

Now, again. BD internal politics is certainly playing a role that favors the production of backward goods in India. However, the important points are to keep the money within the border and employ as many people as possible.
 
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GDP per capita is not a measure of poverty.

Bangladesh's poverty rate is 84.30%
India's poverty rate is 28%
Pakistan's poverty rate is 24.3%

These are simple questions google can answer. Pakistani people still live better lives than the rest and are far richer or average, like it or not.

What is the difference between "better" and "longer" lives? If someone lives longer aren't they living a better life?

Pak life expectancy = 69 years
BD life expectancy = 72 years

These are simple questions google can answer.
 
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Congratulations to Bangladesh

However higher GDP per capita and lower HDI than India for Bangladesh indicates the fruits of economic progress are not reaching average Bangladeshi

probably into pockets of the corrupt


Bangladesh lost approximately $3.8 billion to illegal outflows in 2013
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Interestingly Bangladesh illicit outflows do not seem to be reported after 2013
 
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South Asia Should Pay Attention to Its Standout Star

India and Pakistan have much to learn from their once-poorer neighbor Bangladesh.

By Mihir Sharma

May 31, 2021, 7:30 PM EDTCorrected May 31, 2021, 11:29 PM EDT


Bangladeshi women have been key to the country’s rise.

Bangladeshi women have been key to the country’s rise.

Photographer: Munir Uz Zaman/AFP/Getty Images

Half a century ago, in March 1971, Bangladesh’s founders declared their independence from richer and more powerful Pakistan. The country was born amid famine and war; millions fled to India or were killed by Pakistani soldiers. To the Pakistani military’s American backers, the new country seemed destined to fail: Henry Kissinger, then Secretary of State, famously called it a “basketcase.” George Harrison and Ravi Shankar organized the first-ever super-benefit to raise money for UNICEF relief work in the struggling country.

This month, Bangladesh’s Cabinet Secretary told reporters that GDP per capita had grown by 9% over the past year, rising to $2,227. Pakistan’s per capita income, meanwhile, is $1,543. In 1971, Pakistan was 70% richer than Bangladesh; today, Bangladesh is 45% richer than Pakistan. One Pakistani economist glumly pointed out that “it is in the realm of possibility that we could be seeking aid from Bangladesh in 2030.”

India — eternally confident about being the only South Asian economy that matters — now must grapple with the fact that it, too, is poorer than Bangladesh in per capita terms. India’s per capita income in 2020-21 was a mere $1,947.

Don’t hold your breath expecting India to acknowledge Bangladesh’s success: Right-wing figures in India are convinced Bangladesh is so destitute that illegal migrants from there are overrunning the border. In reality, Bangladesh is far richer than the depressed Indian states where Hindu nationalist politicians have been railing against Bangladeshi “termites.” It’s as if Mississippi were fretting about illegal immigration from Canada.

Perhaps that explains why Indian social media exploded with indignation and denial when the GDP numbers were announced. Meanwhile, Bangladeshi media have made little of the comparison. That’s the sort of self-confidence that comes from growing consistently.


Bangladesh’s growth rests on three pillars: exports, social progress and fiscal prudence. Between 2011 and 2019, Bangladesh’s exports grew at 8.6% every year, compared to the world average of 0.4%. The success is largely due to the country’s relentless focus on products, such as apparel, in which it possesses a comparative advantage.

Meanwhile, the share of Bangladeshi women in the labor force has consistently grown, unlike in India and Pakistan, where it has decreased. And Bangladesh has maintained a public debt-to-GDP ratio between 30% and 40%. India and Pakistan will both emerge from the pandemic with public debt close to 90% of GDP. Fiscal restraint has allowed Bangladesh’s private sector to borrow and invest.

Bangladesh’s success brings its own set of problems. For one, its exports benefit from the country’s participation in various mechanisms that allow tariff-free access to developed economies, such as the U.S.’s Generalized System of Preferences. These groupings are only open to the world’s least developed countries. Thanks to its growth, Bangladesh will likely have to give up these privileges by 2026 or so.

As its economy matures, its comparative advantages will also change. Like Vietnam and others, it will then have to shift emphasis away from garments to higher-value exports. The transition will test Bangladesh as it has those other nations.

The government needs a strategy for the next decade that focuses on new forms of global integration and on a continued transformation of the economy. The smartest thing to do would be to retain access to the developed world’s markets by signing free-trade agreements. Work has started on an FTA with the Association of Southeast Asian Nations, according to Bangladeshi officials, but there’s a lot more to be done.

Once again, Bangladesh should benchmark itself against Vietnam, which is not only part of the China-centric Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership and the successor to the Trans-Pacific Partnership, but also signed an FTA with the European Union in 2019. Transforming the terms of Bangladesh’s trade won’t be easy, which is why the effort needs to start now. Dhaka will have to beef up its negotiating capacity in particular: It doesn’teven have a dedicated set of trade negotiators in its commerce ministry.

Nevertheless, the past 50 years have shown how unwise it is to bet against Bangladesh. In 1971, success seemed well beyond a long shot. Today, the country’s 160 million-plus people, packed into a fertile delta that’s more densely populated than the Vatican City, seem destined to be South Asia’s standout success.

(Correction in second paragraph to remove repetition of the word “Pakistan.”)

This column does not necessarily reflect the opinion of the editorial board or Bloomberg LP and its owners.

To contact the author of this story:
Mihir Sharma at msharma131@bloomberg.net
To contact the editor responsible for this story:
Nisid Hajari at nhajari@bloomberg.net

Mihir Swarup Sharma is a Bloomberg Opinion columnist. He is a senior fellow at the Observer Research Foundation in New Delhi and head of its Economy and Growth Programme. He is the author of "Restart: The Last Chance for the Indian Economy," and co-editor of "What the Economy Needs Now."

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