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[PaklovesTurkiye]

Huh? But Pakistan desperately wants membership of the NSG too. Read this....

Pakistan asks US to support its NSG bid

Pakistan has formally asked the US administration and Congress to support its application for joining the Nuclear Suppliers Group (NSG).

Pakistan submitted a formal application in Vienna last month, expressing its desire to join the group. But the US administration and Congress are both unwilling to support Pakistan.

In a letter to the US Senate Committee on Foreign Relations, Pakistan’s Ambassador Jalil Abbas Jilani reminded Congress that Pakistan had taken a series of steps that qualify it for joining the NSG.

Pakistan submitted a formal application in Vienna last month, expressing its desire to join the group. But the US administration and Congress are both unwilling to support Pakistan.

The letter, shared with Dawn, expresses Pakistan’s willingness to accept the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) safeguards on all foreign supplied nuclear reactors and nuclear materials similar to the current IAEA safeguards in place on all of Pakistan’s civilian nuclear facilities.

http://www.dawn.com/news/1263664

Nowhere has Pakistan mentioned anything about its readiness to sign the NPT first. Pakistan just wants to gatecrash into the exclusive club notwithstanding it's proliferation credentials. AQ Khan and his escapades will probably haunt you till kingdom come!

AQ Khan scandal (I don't know much about it) can't be the hurdle for too long in Pakistan's entry into NSG. West is no angel....Every hand is dirty in this arena.....

May be we engaged US so that we can see US reaction on our application? Like if India can get support from US despite NOT signing NSG, we too can? I m definitely not among the one who sit in Islamabad but Pakistan and US do put others in embarrassing situation sometimes to settle score. Remember there was a news regarding Pakistan's entry into NSG if Pakistan slows down its nukes arsenal??? Nuclear deal with US? So, who knows what is cooking out there?

http://www.dawn.com/news/1211598

 

[shah1398]

China, Russia, Brazil, Austria, New Zealand, Ireland and Turkey.

What? Russia??? Still cant believe it but if the case is so then its classic example of:

Et tu, Brute?...aka Brutus U too???

 

[OrionHunter]

What? Russia??? Still cant believe it but if the case is so then its classic example of:

Et tu, Brute?...aka Brutus U too???

Nope!! That's brute misinformation! Russia was the first to support India.

 

[Ahud Khan]

I think India paid alot because of uneducated Modi, the failure is not of India but is of Modi

 

[neem456]

Well, let the diplomats of China and India negotiate and figure it out.
Why do you worry when your opinion does not make any difference to the real world.
We can discuss what policy our policy maker, not make policies here.

We are here to discuss what happens in the world, not to plan what to do to this world.

So relax and take a chill pill.

 

[GURU DUTT]

Nope!! That's brute misinformation! Russia was the first to support India.

all those who thout russia dint support indias bit for NSG

 

[Perpendicular]

https://twitter.com/x/status/746306693051473920

Something we need to focus on. Deeper pockets and bigger stick.
The great game is indeed on.

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

@Imran Khan @ZAC1 @Irfan Baloch @BetterPakistan @taimoorkhan @HAIDER @paklovesturkiye<br>
<br>
The News regarding Russia blocking Turkey are completely false:<br>
<br>
Just 30 minutes back PM Modi thanked Putin himself for supporting India at NSG.<br>
<br>

https://twitter.com/x/status/746307254685622273

But Dawn (a very credible media outlet) is saying otherwise....We are also surprised at this news.....The news source you are quoting doesn't seems to be authentic......may be part of PM Modi's P.R or hired team to spread misinformation and propaganda to brainwash and make Indians delusional about themselves.

The day you guys signed Logistics agreement with US, was the day u slapped Russia on her face. There's a high possibility China did some magic behind the screen to get russia's support.

 

[Max]

Why two ? You have all the years you want sir.
But remember to apply your bid independently whenever you want? You are a independent nation for god sake, how long you will need indias finger to enter into such clubs.

And we will not even oppose your bid the way you did our FM have already said that on record. You prove your merit to NSG and we are fine with it.

We are not against India's bid, we are against discrimination and special concessions.. Just prove ur cridentials, dont try to gain memberships by allowing uncle sam to hug bharat mata from behind...

 

[shah1398]

Nope!! That's brute misinformation! Russia was the first to support India.

Should have been the case. Its totally illogical to even think of thinking that Russia will oppose India...atleast in current scenario.

 

[neem456]

Massive diplomatic defeat for India.. How much some Indian posters here try to save face citing the bilateral waiver with individual countries, This will have a deep impact on the Modi government especially when India wants to be seen as a major global player.. The Indian PM's office and Mr. Modi himself personally made a huge diplomatic effort in to this, Campaigning not only for it's admittance but also in a bid to alienate China somewhat, Sure the US and some of it's western allies used the bid to prop up India against China for their own regional interests, But in all honestly India came out of this all battered and bruised.. And seems like a number of countries indeed changed it's stance even after assuring India and PM Modi of their support..

Indians need to realize the exclusive clubs like the NSG and the UNSC P5, Doesn't really open doors for outsiders.. Especially when veto powers are involved

Whatever efforts modi has taken are appreciated by we indians. We dont hold modi responsible for todays defeat given the herculean nature of the task.
So no mtter whateve spin you are trying to make here, my vote and many indians will go for modi for this effort.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Well, let the diplomats of China and India negotiate and figure it out.
Why do you worry when your opinion does not make any difference to the real world.
We can discuss what policy our policy maker, not make policies here.

We are here to discuss what happens in the world, not to plan what to do to this world.

So relax and take a chill pill.

Looks like you overestimated America.

From yesterday:

US made the rule, hence they break it as well.

Superpower will make and break the rules, while China will just have to fall in line, like they did in 2008.

So basically you sold your sovereignty to the USA by signing CISMOA/LSA, but they didn't even fulfill their end of the deal by getting you an NSG seat?

That's rough.

But don't worry. Game is not over yet. The NSG and UNSC seats are still up for grabs.

 

[cloud_9]

On to the next round!

 

[jaunty]

It is only a matter of time before we get it.

 

[Perpendicular]

Do you respect your mother ?

hug bharat mata from behind...